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  1. Definitely a 4th cable. The GPU also has double BIOS, and we're not sure which one is active, and maybe with the standard one 3 cables might work, but either way, just for being safe, he's gonna order a 4th cable.
  2. Hello everyone! Problem solved(sort of). Leaving the answer here, in case someone else needs it: In short, for Zotac 4090 OC Trinity you NEED 4 SEPARATE PCIE cables. How we reached to this answer: We connected the card as in the above picture, with 3 PCIE Cables and using one pigtail for the 4th connection of the adapter. The PC would boot up and display whatever we were doing. However, upon loading Unigine Heaven to test the card, the PC crashed when the power draw of the card exceeded 320W. Our guess for this happening is the following: The 12pin adapter has 4 connections . We think it splits the power draw equally, so that means 80W/cable. Because we had the 3rd PCIE cable being connected normally + pigtail, this cable was pulling from the PSU a total of 160W, which is over the rated 150W of a PCIE cable, and it triggered some protection of the PSU which in turn crashed the PC. We also tried connecting only 3 PCIE, no pigtail, which theoretically should work (3x150W=450W, which is also the rated power draw of the card and add to that 75W from the PCIEx16 lane, so 525 W total available). However, using just 3 Cables, no pigtail, will make the card not display anything. So the solution, we think , for this card, is to mandatory have 4 PCIE cables from the PSU. And don't get fooled by the PSU manufacturers: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/HXi-Series-Fully-Modular-ATX-Power-Supplies/p/CP-9020214-NA Corsair HX1000i page says the PSU package contains 6 PCIE cable: But they are actually 3 cables, each with 1 pigtail connection. From what I've read on the internet and the troubleshooting we did, you shouldn't use the pigtail connection.
  3. Sorry for disturbing, could anyone have a look at these topic here, please? I know it's not the right category, but we're at the last step, GPU installation:
  4. I was actually thinking on going with the Corsair RMx 2021 1000W and I didn't even knew this cable existed!! Thank you, really useful!
  5. Oh, btw, one more question: If we decide to go DDR5 platform, what speeds and CL would anyone recommend?
  6. Not necessarily but to be honest some things are cheaper here. For example that Be quiet! PSU here is less than 200$, don't know why. So there is room for some changes. Thanks for the advices, will keep them in mind as we try to finalize the build ! Oh, and thanks for that PSU list, that is really helpful!
  7. Yea, I agree 4090 is a bit too much for 1440p, problem is he already bough the card , so I think he'll go on a 4K screen There are DDR5 boards, only that I'm not sure how pcpartpicker works, but we have quite a few. Even the one I listed has a version which supports DDR5 https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z690-GAMING-X-rev-10-11/sp#sp So to be sure, definitely Z690 chipset and DDR5, right? Yea, I had a look now for 1 TB SSD's , indeed it makes more sense and they are cheaper then the last time I checked so it will be changed. The PSU I linked is actually cheaper here than the super flower 1200w, but just to be sure, my thoughts are the following: 1000W + PSU's, from companies like SuperFlower, Seasonic or other, but with gold or higher rating.Is that correct? 1. Thanks, probably will go for a DDR5 platform, it seems it isn't that much more expensive 2. Yea, I figured it can happen randomly, but I thought reducing the strain would help a bit, since from what I've read, the bending was the main cause of melting cables. 2.1 I like EK 360, but I haven't seen it here many times. Is there an issue though with NZXT X73?
  8. Budget (including currency): Not sure if relevant Country: Romania Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Just Gaming, definitely will be checking the latest games Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): An AOC 144Hz FullHD monitor for the moment, will be updated to a 2K - 144 Hz or more later this year. Hi guys! I'm asking for a bit of help because a friend of mine wants to build a new PC for the sole purpose of gaming. He asked me to help him but it's been a while since I've been in touch with the PC building world so here I am, with some questions. The build is the following: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8BwZPX . Or, if you can't access it, here's a picture The questions are the following: 1. Is the motherboard alright? From my point of view it seems fine, it will need a BIOS update, but in terms of compatibility and performance I think it's a well balanced MB. Would you recommend a different MB? 2. Would anyone recommend a different case? We all know that 4090's cables tend to melt so I picked this case because it says "Maximum CPU Cooler height: 190mm" so this would mean it's wider than normally which means the 4090 cables won't be as bent as they would in a different case. For example, I have a 3090 and a Lian Li O11 and my GPU cables are almost glued to the glass panel. For Lian Li O11 it says "Maximum CPU Cooler height: 155 mm" so the be quiet! case would offer extra 35 mm of width , even though Zotac's 4090 is 10 mm wider than a FE 3090. Any other recommendations for wider cases with good airflow and AIO mounting posibillities? 3. I don't have any other questions but feel free to write any other recommendations you would think of. Thank you in advance!
  9. Oh wow, thank you for the detailed answer!! I am using as case the Lian Li O11, with the AIO mounted on the side (because I'm trying to avoid to have hot air from GPU going through it) and 9 fans in total. System fans are Lian Li Bota digital, 3 top and 3 bottom. To be honest, it is not clear for me either why with old BIOS I was getting 90C at "stock" settings (I remember was running again at 4.5 ghz all cores). But after updating the BIOS , under load, the CPU reached ~81 (it's also quite hot here aka high ambient temperature). When dialing the PBO I followed this tutorial: which I believe follows the same steps you mentioned. And yes, I do plan to find the stable cores at 30 negative steps, that was my next to do, just didn't have enough time yesterday and since I understood it's a lengthy process, I will leave it for the weekend Also, now, with PBO on and curve optimizer, I am reaching 90C which I understand it's normal? I am not sure about this. But as I said, I set from BIOS the thermal throttle limit to 75C, and that's the max temperature it's currently running at.
  10. Hey! Thanks for the input! Don't worry, I don't intend to change the cooler, the only thing I want to change is the fan/pump curve. I set them both to 100% for the moment, because I wanted the best cooling available while I figure out the what's and how's. I asked that because I intend to lower them to a more acceptable ~50-60%. The thing is, the cpu didn't reach 75C on its own (or to say otherwise: 75C is the temperature my cooler manages to reach for my cpu). No. I actually set in BIOS that the cpu can boost its frequency until it reaches 75C and after that no more boosting. This has resulted in 4.45-4.5 ghz all cores under load. And this is what I'm asking, if I was wrong setting it to never pass 75C
  11. Hi guys! I have some questions regarding my Ryzen 5900x and PBO. I will first detail what I did and then ask the questions. System specs: CPU: Ryzen 5900x MB: Aorus Pro B550 V2 RAM: HyperFuryX, 3600Mhz, CL18 (XMP enabled) AIO: NZXT X73 PSU: Corsair RMx 2021 850W GPU: 3090 Founders Edition So: After building my pc, the CPU was reaching 90C so I started to dabble with frequencies, voltages and so on to no effect. Problem turned out to be the BIoS version, I was running F10, latest being F13 which I installed yesterday. After updating BIOS, the CPU was reaching 4.1-4.2 all cores and 81C. So I followed some youtube tutorial on how to set PBO. I don't remember the name of values (PPT EDC and one more) but the actual values I have now are: 175, 125 and 145( in the order they are presented when you set PBO from BIOS). Also, I enabled curve optimizer and managed a negative 25 steps stable. However , the CPU was still reaching 90C and 4.6 Ghz all cores (or somewhere there). So I went into BIOS and set the thermal throttle limit to 75C. After that I ran Cinebench R23, Blender rendering , multicore applications in general. All core frequency is at 4.45-4.5 Ghz while temps are at 75C. I plan to use this build to render stuff in Blender so I prefer lower temps and stability. Questions: 1. Is 75C ok for Ryzen for prolonged periods of time? 2. Is it a good method of protecting your pc by lowering you thermal limits? While I believe I got good results, I am not sure if this is a good long term solution because I still do not fully understand what the settings do. 3. From what I currently understand, given current settings, if I were to change the cooler with a weaker one, the temps would still be 75C ,only that the frequencies will drop because the weaker cooler won't have the same performance as the one I use. Is this correct? What I want to find out is if I'm correct in assuming that using these setting means frequency is determined by temps and not the other way around. So the better cooler you have, the better the frequencies/performance. Right? 4. My results are: 75C max temp, 4.45-4.5 all core @~1.1 volts. Are these good results? Thank you all for helping a newbie understand what he is doing ! (Currently at work so I can provide screenshots if needed later)
  12. I managed to control them through manual undervolting. Problem is....that will become your only frequency, no matter what you do. For the moment it's fine for me until I get the hang of PBO and undervolting.
  13. I would say check the voltages, it worked for me. I'm not into gaming so it worked for me for my purpose but maybe it will help you as well (check the last image I sent,I have the settings shown there)
  14. Yes, I prefer stability and reliability, rather than going full on it ^^
  15. Full load on all cores with Cinebench R23 ^^ LE: I just didn't want to waste everyone's time, so thank you!
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