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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XQmxFg better mb for similar price, better support for appropriate higher speed ram. better memory for cpu 3600 w/cl 16 save cost on case 550W is more than enough for what you need decent price and fully modular. I don't use Nvidia gpu's so I basically just picked the cheapest 1660 super stock wraith cooler is all you need if you're just gaming, it works great, is quiet enough, and easy to install. Hope this helps, stay safe and healthy

Didn't realize, should be visible now. Thanks for pointing that out.

Parts are ordered and I should have them by next weekend, a little over budget with shipping but nothing too bad https://pcpartpicker.com/user/zeitgeist420cubed/saved/XxsJnQ I'll update this post with the finished build once everything gets in and I have it put together. Thanks again @jaslion@Dr0idGh0sT@Somerandomtechyboi

Thanks @jaslion I'm assuming the G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory won't cause any damage to the system since you didn't mention if it would or not. I hadn't planned on OC'ing but I know there are certain processes, like physics simulations and particle effects that run better on single core at higher speeds and some that can take advantage of multiple cores so I wasn't sure if it would be worth looking into for versatility's sake. I'm looking into a couple cases now, only picked the enthoo because that's what my current pc is housed in and it was real easy to build in, has plenty of storage expansion, good air flow, and cable management features, but on the downside it doesn't afford a lot in the way of connectivity with the front io as there aren't any type c ports and only two usb ports. The Tuf x570 board works well for what I use my current board for but I have a few issues with it. For me it doesn't have enough fan headers and they aren't all in great places for cable management, the rear io doesn't have all the features I'm looking for as even in my current build I need dongles to increase my connectivity options, (I have a three monitor setup as well as my drawing tablet and other peripherals I use in my workflow.) On top of that due to where my office is I can't currently run an ethernet cable to my pc and have to use Wi-Fi and even if I could it only has 1 1gb/s ethernet, Wi-Fi 5, 1 usb 3.2 port, and just won't due in the long term. After this build is done my next steps will be to build a server that I can store my files to and work from, and as my business grows I plan to start working on a small render farm once i have the resources to do so. So one of the problems I've been researching is how to network that all together at reasonable transfer rates so I'm still probably going to go with the proart board for more than a few reasons and I probably will be using more of that boards features as it'll make things easier down the road, plus it's still within my budget, I saved up for nearly two years for this build so I'd rather spend a little more now than a whole lot later on. I appreciate your advice. I'm probably going to finish up my parts list by the end of next week and order the parts. I'll send a picture of the finished build here once I get it all put together. Stay safe everyone and thanks for your help, can't wait to make some art.

Thanks for the advice! You guys gave me some stuff to think about and more to research but working on v.2 now. @Somerandomtechyboi I didn't realize those weren't NVME thanks for pointing that out. I would reuse parts but I still need my current PC for everything else. Oh and I didn't intend to pay full retail for windows, that's just in the list as a reminder to myself so I don't forget. I didn't know that about that MB, that's good to know. Mainly picked that board because I don't want to have to update the bios for the CPU, but I have an alternative that should be fine now that also addresses the concerns I had about RAM thanks to @Dr0idGh0sT, thanks for the recommendation for the Asus ProArt X570 MB and the NVME drives. @jaslion I appreciate the advice, I edited my post for clarity's sake concerning that. I'm aware of the performance gains, just would rather improve on what I'm currently working with and stay within the confines of AMD products, (not for any fanboy reasons, just really don't like NVidia as a company due to their business practices and don't want to support them as a customer.) I looked at the scythe but I'm just concerned about the temps at full workload and less concerned about noise. I would go with an AIO for performance reasons, but too worried about the consequences of it failing. But I'm open to any suggestions concerning cooling. Couldn't really find any good resources that covered cooling solutions for the 5900x/5950x for my use case. Had a couple new questions now as well: I know crossfire isn't a viable option any longer as far as gaming goes, but is it useful for rendering and animation? I know it would split the pci lanes from x16 in a single slot to x8 in two but I really don't know what effect that would have on my workload. Any help or direction to resources would be appreciated. In the system builder it has: " Note:The G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory operating voltage of 1.45 V exceeds the AMD Zen 3 CPU recommended maximum of 1350 mv+7% (1444.5 mv). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1350 mv voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the AMD recommended maximum." Is this something I should be concerned with, and what kind of effect would it have on the other components and it's performance? There is a DDR4-4000 CL 18 that runs at 1.4 V with timings at 18-22-22-42, would that be a better choice? Also should I consider oc the cpu? I saw in a gamers nexus that they had it running at 4.6 ghz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72AHENDeTEI&t=1356s unsure what kind of cooling solution they used or how they tweaked the settings to achieve that just didn't know if maybe it was something I should look into or risking. Based on your suggestions https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nRm8Tn this is currently what I'm looking into as far as a v.2 goes and it's still within budget. Still have some research to do though. Thanks for your help so far, I appreciate it.

Budget (including currency): preferred ~ 3.5k USD/ Max 4k USD Country: USA Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Main focus of the build would be for 3d modelling/rendering with some animations with mid to high poly count. I would primarily be using DAZ 3D Studio and Blender to model and animate, (most of the work will be done in Blender, DAZ is just a part of my workflow), GIMP for making touchups on finished renders. I would be rendering through Blender with the AMD ProRender plugin. Using DAZ and Blender because I can't afford the costs associated with other programs as well as familiarity with them, (in addition to the assets available through DAZ are a bonus so I don't have to feel like I'm constantly reinventing the wheel or lacking in the inspiration department). Other details: Just for clarification my current PC will still be my daily driver for when I'm not working on renders and animations (I won't be able to use the workstation while it's rendering), so I won't be reusing the parts for the new PC. Current build: MB: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 GPU: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB THICC III Ultra RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 PS: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Planned build Workstation v.1: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mHrH9r I intend to upgrade storage as needed, would like to eventually have dedicated storage to backup my projects and work. I have all of my peripherals and case fans already. I may do some video editing on the machine as needed but my current pc will still be used for most of my other work and gaming. My concerns/questions: The GPU selection, I'm not familiar with Gigabyte, (as in I've never owned one of their products) but chose it based on budget concerns, would prefer to use XFX as my current GPU has been excellent but that would put me over with the way the market is now. RAM choice, based on this info I found in this thread on reddit I'm not sure how to get the desired 64gb of ram for the build. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/s8elik/4_sticks_ram_vs_2/ Cooling, I'd like to stick with air cooling if possible as I've never used water-cooling, but not sure if the NH-D15 with the case fans in a positive pressure setup would be sufficient, as I don't know what temps to expect and am unsure of the best cooling solution, and tbh having another point of failure in the system intimidates me a bit especially when there's water involved. I'd like to stick to AMD products as I'm not a big fan of Nvidia or Intel, plus I want to take advantage of smart access memory and use both the cpu and gpu for rendering with ProRender. Not sure how to bring the budget down any further as I already made some concessions I'm not exactly thrilled with, but any help in that department would be appreciated. Also any additional advice to questions I probably should have but lack the knowledge to ask would be more than welcome. I'm not trying to get into a debate as to why, since I made this post for assistance on my build, but I have my reasons as to why I won't purchase a Nvidia GPU. I'm aware of the difference in performance and the lack of support that comes with that choice and I'm fine with that decision. Hope everyone is staying safe and healthy. Thanks in advance.

@Mahbub it really depends on what you can live with as far as noise is concerned. I would recommend the non industrial fans, and as much as I love Noctua I would recommend https://pcpartpicker.com/product/62hKHx/arctic-p14-pwm-pst-5-pack-728-cfm-140mm-fans-acfan00138a Hope that helps, Have a great day.

Hey everyone, so I think this will be a good base to work off from. PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ B&H Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard $183.99 @ B&H Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $82.99 @ Newegg Storage Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $69.99 @ B&H Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG ATX Mid Tower Case $99.99 @ Amazon Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G1+ 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $81.98 @ Newegg Case Fan ARCTIC P14 PWM PST (5-pack) 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fans $32.99 @ Newegg Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $746.92 Mail-in rebates -$20.00 Total $726.92 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-29 20:33 EST-0500 I decided to opt out of getting a new GPU right now, I figure my rx 580 will be fine for another month, sometime in April, when I'll upgrade the GPU to a XFX THICC 3 Ultra, prices may be better then. In May I plan to get another set of RAM and a NH-D15, I'm in no rush to start water cooling, and the LTT test on aio's vs air cooling was pretty compelling as far as performance and acoustics are concerned, and then in June I figure I'll be able to upgrade the CPU to a 3900x. While I would like the performance of the 3950x the 3900x should work fine for what I need it to do. The power draw should be about 409w so the PSU can provide an extra 63% than I would need, which should give me some headroom to OC. I could probably go with a cheaper case but this one has space for storage expansion which I figure I'll just pick up throughout the year as I need it. Part of my decision on the MB was the 8 sata ports which should give me expansion options as well as the build in wi-fi and vram power delivery/ voltage regulation. I was thinking of the aorus elite, but the tuf just has more features for less money. I thought about just getting a prime x570-p and getting a wifi adapter, but that would have just meant adding more cost down the line as I ended up going with a different MB. I should have the build I want sometime in June and hopefully it'll look something like this, with my only extraneous cost being the 3600 which I'm okay with. If anyone has any thoughts, suggestions, or know of any issues I might have with this build please let me know. Thank's to everyone who helped me with this. I'm going to order these parts here in about a week unless there's something wrong with my selections. Have a great day everyone. PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor $469.99 @ Amazon CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler $99.95 @ Amazon Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard $183.99 @ B&H Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $82.99 @ Newegg Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $82.99 @ Newegg Storage Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $69.99 @ B&H Video Card XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB THICC III Ultra Video Card $399.99 @ Amazon Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG ATX Mid Tower Case $99.99 @ Amazon Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G1+ 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $81.98 @ Newegg Case Fan ARCTIC P14 PWM PST (5-pack) 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fans $32.99 @ Newegg Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $1624.85 Mail-in rebates -$20.00 Total $1604.85 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-29 20:57 EST-0500

@jstudrawa Sorry I didn't put that in the original post but didn't think It was relevant. I've spent the last 6 or so months doing research and budgeting with the expectation that costs will be lower by the time I actually order the parts for the build. I knew things would be different from my last build but didn't realize by how much. When I was thinking about a pure WS build I was looking into the 3960x but then sat down and looked at what i realistically need and the 3950x just made more sense. I appreciate any input you can give on the build. I'll update it here in a while, need to go for now Thanks to everyone here, you're all hero's

No worries For now a 3600 will do what I need it to, but It will fall short once the build is where I want it. Essentially what I'm looking to do right now is create a base I can build off of, only spending roughly $800 - 1000 now, with potentially investing another 1000 in it over the next year as the market changes. Eventually the build will look something like this (the MB will probably be different depending on what I start with) with a custom water cooled loop for the cpu and gpu. PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor $749.00 @ Amazon Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard $359.00 @ B&H Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $172.99 @ Newegg Video Card Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB AORUS Video Card $429.99 @ B&H Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $149.99 @ Newegg Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $1880.97 Mail-in rebates -$20.00 Total $1860.97 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-28 14:13 EST-0500 Eventually I would like to do game streaming in higher resolution, (1440p or even 4k) so I'll need something robust, But aside from that I work with large data sets(where I'm creating files up to 1 tb which i then have to sort through (with my current PC this is a nightmare ), I thought of building a pure workstation but I also want to do some streaming and couldn't justify building two systems each dedicated to a different use. I'm also in the process of upgrading my server so the money I have saved up is already being divided. I can live with using my current pc as a slow but able workstation while I build and upgrade a new PC over the course of a year or so. I could spend $2000 on a PC today, but that would mean making other sacrifices I'm not willing make. Thanks

yeah when I was looking into GPU's I saw this LTT video for the price range and use case I decided on the RX 5700 because of the OC'ing potential and the GDDR6 memory @ 448 gb/s vs the 336 gb/s with the RTX 2060. Plus I'm not all that interested in ray tracing. Thanks, yeah for the most part I'm just looking for the best performance to price ratio. Your comments help a lot I really appreciate it.

Thanks, I have a lot more research to do I guess. My last build was in 2011, and there have been quite a few changes since then. One of my main issues currently is a need to upgrade my CPU which I can't do because of my MB. Essentially that's the component I want to future proof as much as possible.

@ShinRamen Thanks, I haven't done as much research on b450 Mb's because of the issues with bios and focused on the x570's, I'll have to look into that. Aren't the 2070 and 2060 super's more than I need to comfortably play AAA games in 1080p? I thought I would only need to go that route if I wanted higher resolution? Initially I was going to crossfire a couple rx 580's(mainly because I already have one and it would save on overall cost), but after learning about how few games are supporting CF/SLI and issues with micro stuttering decided against it. I've personally never had any issues with AMD GPU's I have a MSI Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC in my current pc, and it works great, It's the rest of my computer that needs an upgraded. I'm open to any suggestions, in particular any specific model GPU would be awesome.

@Gol_D_Chris Thanks, I agree, a year isn't that bad, plus by the time I upgrade my cpu there might be better prices and more options. @Kid.Lazer Thanks, yeah it's hard for me to cut off the extra stuff, especially when working in a budget situation, and I know it's unnecessary but I want to eventually go to 32Gb of RAM. No problem, I think I saw a video about it a while ago but then I saw people suggesting the 3600 for ryzen 3rd gen. As far as the bios flashing, I really don't want to brick my board, I live in an older house and sometimes I lose power