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    Neopreemsubmarine reacted to Beerzerker in G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16 - B-Die common?   
    The sets I'm running in this build are B-Die. ( G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) AMD X370 / B350 Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX - Newegg.com )
     
    These have the tighter CL14 timings but from what I've experienced so far they don't like clocking up very high. The kits I do have that goes up high are these ( G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel Z170 / Z270 / Z370 / X299 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTZSW - Newegg.com ) and this is what I got them to do earlier: https://valid.x86.fr/qlqvez
    Clearly the better bin of B-Die was used in these.
     
    The other sticks here ( G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTRS - Newegg.com ) are B-Die as well..... Then again these (  G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTRSC - Newegg.com ) either aren't B-Die period or really bad B-Die was used for these.
     
    Look at the differences in the specs between the two sets and you'll see them.
     
    The ones I clocked up high were Trident Z's and are B-Die but the Better set of Royals shown are a good alternative to the Tridents if you don't see them in stock where you shop. The Flares themselves are good sticks too, just don't expect alot of speed past stock from them but if you get it, that's great.
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    Neopreemsubmarine reacted to Jurrunio in G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16 - B-Die common?   
    Thaipoon burner do not always read them correctly, someone apparently found Hynix CJR when it reports Samsung B-die, or Hynix AFR when it says Samsung D-die. You have to take the heatsink off to be sure.
     
    It is true that Samsung B-die is not found in 3200 16-18-18-38 bins, or rather those that carry its famed potential. There are garbage B-die that perform much like good Hynix AFR for example, where they struggle to go past 3333MHz with tight timings. The chance of finding good B-die from cheaper kits of larger, more famous brands like G.skill is even lower than smaller brands like Team group or Patriot because they have the resources to do better binning to make sure even less decent dies flow to lower rated kits. For example, you can see many people claiming 3600MHz to be the sweet spot memory frequency for Zen 2 CPUs, as a result Corsair has made a new 3600MHz bin to hopefully get more people from 3200MHz to 3600MHz. Back then their worst bin is 18-22-22-42, the new bin is 20-23-23-43 which is even worse... In the past these dies could very well end up in 3000MHz 16-18-18-38 kits along with those that refuse to go higher in frequency no matter what. So yeah, that's how far they would go just to earn some more $$$.
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