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Meanwhile, we see completely different story on this tier-list - various psu's drop to lower tiers because they have high OVERLOAD ripple (which is often a measurement error like 268mV 120% load Focus FX on pceva when another reviewer measured max ~30mV on 130% load), so i want to know who is right, JG or author of this list @LukeSavenije ?.

 

You have no reason for that.,You started accusing Seasonic long ago with no proof. Pceva a completely unknown site from China is simply the last thing you could find to try to support your misinformation, before that you were already accusing them. You are simply wrong, no known reviewer found any issue with the Focus Plus. And this one has a video of the test. Juular is as biased as he seems to trust text more than a video, 42mv too high, what an expert,.
 
I asked you for sources of all your claims and you never provided any proof.

Are you serious? ATX spec is 120mv... 42mv at 120% is ridiculously low, you will hardly find anything better than that even in more expensive PSUs, 

You have no reason for that.,You started accusing Seasonic long ago with no proof. Pceva a completely unknown site from China is simply the last thing you could find to try to support your misinformation, before that you were already accusing them. You are simply wrong, no known reviewer found any issue with the Focus Plus. And this one has a video of the test. Juular is as biased as he seems to trust text more than a video, 42mv too high, what an expert,.
 
I asked you for sources of all your claims and you never provided any proof.

That quote is valid to any PSU. The ripple being seen is higher than Focus Plus. Only here people rate untested and unseen ripple. 
 
Focus GX and the other new Focuses are good just because.
All previous Focuses are not good just because.

I am familiar with that topic, a search for Seasonic Focus issues only brings LukeSavenije on several forums saying you should not buy it, or references to his posts. 
 
There is a picture of the GX internals in the Seasonic site, from what is visible it is the same as Focus Plus just as claimed by Seasonic. Several Focus models have non visible differences. What makes the GX special without any actual testing? Nothing.

So he should post the screenshot of his oscilloscope with ripple at 120% load, until it is not done it is the same as the test by Pceva. According to yourself.

It does not say anything other than Focus Plus v1 compatibility issue with a few graphic cards.

Source? Everytime i ask for one none is provided, hopefully you can point me to a reliable source otherwise GX and all new Focuses belongs to Tier C according to your assumption methodology. They are all in the same platform.

These two are not the same, i did not check it but you say the AFPC is diferent. So it is not the same. The 650W Focus Plus Gold have difference in two components only and the overall performance gets a very decent hit. It was not even the Focus Plus that was tested in the Chinese site, it is the Focus. 
 
Regarding sources i could downgrade or upgrade many of the PSUs on the list if i go for less reliable sources. As an example the MWE V2 ripple is above ATX specification under normal load according to a non widely recognizable source that is popular in Netherlands. 
 
Using a less reliable source to say the Focus has an issue when a lot of completely reliable sources do not point any issue is very selective and biased.
 
By the way HardOCP tested Focus Plus Gold at high overloads and it showed no issues. Unfortunately they removed all the reviews from that site.
 
In those cases the most unbiased way would be to put the PSU in the tier it belongs according to widely recognizable source(s) but with an observation like a  citation number used by wikipedia where it would say something like "According to PcEva.com.cn the ripple goes above ATX specs at 120% load".
 
By the assumption method, the internals picture of the GX available at Seasonic website look the same as Focus Plus, i can`t spot any difference. Add to that Seasonic does not claim it is any different. Why not assume it is the same?
 
The assumption that all PSUs under the same platform are the same is not in accordance with this very Tier list, not only because of the GX there are other PSUs in the list using the very same platforms but are in different tiers.

The GX is Focus Plus based.
 
The problems people had, had nothing to do with the tier requirements of the list. Pceva thing does, but...all i said.

Mr. LukeSavenije,
I believe your tier classification for Seasonic Focus Plus is unfair.
 
1 - You claim that its 12v OCP .at 136% is high, Corsair RM X is 157%.
2 - You back your claim with 120% load test from an unknown Chinese website presenting 268mv ripple which may be wrong. 
3 - Most PSUs don`t have load tests at 120% for comparison, not even by the same site and reviewer. The most known reviewers do not test more than 110%.
4 - Nobody is supposed to use the PSU above 100%, cetainly it may happen by ignorance and OCP should trigger when considered dangerous but assuming your source is valid. Is 268mv dangerous? It won`t be any good long term use but calling it dangerous is a bit too much.
5 - The test from the Chinese website is for the Platinum version, should be taken as the same to any other version.