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17 minutes ago, St. Nick said:

Nah, Skewering is only good for shashlik. We can be civilized and just drop the issue, people are entitled to their own opinions and that's cool. Let's just agree that these specs will be fine and if he/she can overclock their memory or get 3200mhz ram they will get a bit more performance. That seems to be what we all agree on right? No need to get vindictive if we all have the same advice to give. 

So, i will be okay with that and i just need to overclock RAM's to get a small boost. Ok, thank you and everyone else that gave me those advices.

1 minute ago, St. Nick said:

That's totally a valid point, but I meant it in the way that when Zen 3 comes out and Zen 2 gets replaced. Zen+ parts will probably see another price cut both new and second hand.

Yeah i just think the same, in fact i didn't have buy anything 'cause i'm waiting for a cut prize that there will be with the presentation of the next hardware.

3 minutes ago, seapriestess said:

There wont be bottlenecks, its an overused word and it doesnt mean what you think it does.

Thank you too.

6 minutes ago, St. Nick said:

Yes, you will have bottlenecks. It is not a straight yes or no question in the way most people want it to be. The odds of putting together a pc that will be perfectly matched in all of it's  components and the application your running is just a silly notion. The question you want to ask yourself is will this system perform adequately enough for my needs and are the inevitable bottlenecks within acceptable levels for my taste. And those components should work just fine together in that sense. 

Edit: If you haven't bought any parts yet though. with a 2600x 3200 mhz ram will squeeze out just a tiny bit more performance. And if you are buying parts new. in 2 months that 2600x is 2 gens old. you might wanna wait there. 

Thank you for the suggest.

6 minutes ago, St. Nick said:

Yes, you will have bottlenecks. It is not a straight yes or no question in the way most people want it to be. The odds of putting together a pc that will be perfectly matched in all of it's  components and the application your running is just a silly notion. The question you want to ask yourself is will this system perform adequately enough for my needs and are the inevitable bottlenecks within acceptable levels for my taste. And those components should work just fine together in that sense. 

Edit: If you haven't bought any parts yet though. with a 2600x 3200 mhz ram will squeeze out just a tiny bit more performance. And if you are buying parts new. in 2 months that 2600x is 2 gens old. you might wanna wait there. 

Thank you, i want a 2600x instead of a newer Zen 2 CPU beacause i want to keep the compatibility within the older Windows Versions.

Hello everyone, i would pair a Ryzen 5 2600x with an RTX 2060 (with an Asrock B450M Pro4 as a motherboard and 16 GB 3000 MHz of Corsair Vengeance RAM). Will i have any bottlenecks?

Just now, PyroTheWise said:

Try out the wraith stealth cooler first.   If the noise doesn't bother you then you don't need to spend the extra money.

 

Sorry but I do not know pricing in your location but in the US, anywhere from 25-50 bucks generally.  I used an Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo - really nice CPU cooler.   There are quite a few others that will work just fine as well.  I only have experience with the Arctic so I would not be the best person to provide budget CPU cooler advice.

I live in Italy and i checked the prize, your cooler it's about €30/40 euros. I will check the noise before byuing one. Thank you.

21 minutes ago, PyroTheWise said:

Yes they come with the Wraith stealth cooler.   I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and used the included wraith stealth cooler.  It does work to keep the CPU cool but can be noisy if your PC sits right next to you like mine does.  At least my wraith stealth cooler did.   I eventually bought a 3rd party CPU cooler to reduce noise.

Ok, yeah i have only one desk available and the case is on my bottom left, enough near to me. How much a decent cooler costs?

Just now, PyroTheWise said:

The Ryzen 5 3600 and the Ryzen 3300X come with a CPU cooler as well.  

Oh, so i was wrong. Thank you

1 minute ago, Stuttgart said:

Dont change the PSU. Its not highly overpowered and leaves some room for an eventual upgrade in the future.
As already stated here

you may want to change the 3600X for an 3300X or even 3100 if you are on a budget. The 3300x is a capable 8 Thread CPU, i just build a PC for my dad with it and im amazed what this CPU is capable off. You can spend those savings in a better GPU if you are mainly gaming.
Also dont bother wasting money on another SSD if yours is running fine. 120GB is enough to fit an OS + several applications on it. Upgrade if you have some spare money.

Regarding the B550 Mainboard: if you dont really need PCIe Gen4 (which i doubt reading your first post) theres no sense going for an B550 if you can have a good B450 for much less. Just get a solid B450 Board and youll be fine.

Regarding RAM: i have absolutely no clue. Just give it a shot.

 

Thank you, i had neve considered less powerful CPUs like 3100/3300, i'll take a look. I don't know the SSD performance because i don't have it. I don't need PCIe Gen4, so i'll take a B450

2 minutes ago, Applefreak said:

For mainly gaming, use a Ryzen 3100 or 3300 cpu, there is little benefit to go with the hexacore variant unless you also do a lot of production work on the side. That way you can save 40€ for a better graphics card or something else. Also, unless you already have the 2400 Mhz ram, I'd get a faster pair at 3200 Mhz. Ram prices are pretty low at the moment and the extra speed is not that much more expensive.

Thanks for the advice, unfortunately the RAM is completely free and i will spend more than €80 if i will be, so i will take these. Do you know if i can increase the frequence in the XMP?

4 minutes ago, WambleCropped said:

I would spend less on a processor unless you are using this build for more CPU heavy tasks. In budget builds you typically want to spend more on the graphics cards. I am assuming this is mainly for gaming. Do you have a bugdet? 

Yes, about €630 (i live in Italy), so i should take a 3600 with GTX 1650S? If yes, is Inno3D a good producer for this GPU?

I wanted to take a 3600X beacuse it has the integrated cooler, so i wouldn't have spend for it.

Hello everyone, it's still me. I change my config again (yeah, for the third time). This is the new one:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600x

GPU: XFX Radeon RX 570 4GB

Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max

PSU: Corsair TX 550M

Case: Aerocool Aero 500

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8 2400 MHz

SSD: Crucial BX500 120 GB (for Windows)

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1 TB 2.5 (for data)

Monitor: AOC G2590PX

Keyboard: Trust Classicline

The RAM and the Monitor are completely free thanks to friends, so i won't change it. About the RAM, is possible to overclock it (at least 3000 MHz) with A-XMP?

Also, i wanted to change the PSU (too much oversiezed and overprized for my configuration), the case (i like it but i can't even install an ODD) and the SSD (not NVMe M.2, just a simple SSD, but with more quality and a size of 256 GB without raise the price too much).

Finally, the new Mobo B550s are coming out and by the end of the year the new Ryzen 4000 will be presented, so would you recommend me to do this PC now or wait for a cut of prize in the future (and eventually change the Mobo with a B550)? Thanks to everyone for the patience, i'm a noob

11 hours ago, Khoomn said:

microATX is just worse for overclocking if you are into that, 16gb is only around $90 if thats too expensive and you know you are going to get the microatx with 2 dim slots, go with single channel then as you will get duel channel when you upgrade. You can overclock ram but you would need a decent heatsink on it and im not sure about how overclocking ram goes and how far you can go with it

Ok thank you, i'm not interested in overlocking, so the B450M Pro 4 will be fine. The heatsink i will use is the one that is included with the CPU, i think it's enough (i don't want to overlock the RAM if it isn't necessary, i just want to active the XMP in the BIOS if it's possible)

2 hours ago, Khoomn said:

For the GPU, the RX 570 is faster than the 1650

No comment on the motherboard, I would say B450M but its a micro atx

For ram, I would go with 2x8 if you are doing ryzen but if you insist on going with 8gb do a 2x4 kit for dual channel. At minimum go with 3200mhz kit as higher speeds are good for ryzen.

I personally can't find the monitor on newegg or amazon but i think i found it on there site, its a decent-ish price for 75hz 1ms, it will pair good with the RX570 as well for free sync

Ok, so the GPU is RX570. Why a microATX is worst than ATX? The difference is only that's smaller, or there's something else?

For the RAM, i wanted to take 16GB but that's really too expensive, so I was going to take these now and ugrade to 16GB in the future. So i can't increase the RAM speed into the BIOS?

The monitor is like you said, i'll take it.

I need a help for a configration, i can't choose:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600x

GPU: XFX Radeon RX 570 4GB / Manli GTX 1650 4 GB

Motherboard: Asrock B450M Pro4 / Asrock AB350 Pro4

PSU: Corsair TX 550M

Case: Aerocool Aero 500

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport (1x8 GB)

SSD: Crucial BX500 120 GB (for Windows)

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1 TB 2.5 (for data)

Monitor: Acer NITRO QG1 QG241Y

I'm uncertain about the GPU, the Motherboard, the RAM and the Monitor. For the GPU, which one is more powerful? I found them with a difference of €2.

About the Motherboard, what's the difference? The first one is a microATX and has the chipset B450, the second one is an ATX and has the chipset B350. Which one is better?

For the RAM, i want to replace it because it's too expensive, there's something better even with a frequence of 2400 Mhz? Also, if i have a RAM with a low frequence, even 2100 Mhz, can i increase the frequence it to the maximum, like 3200 Mhz, in the BIOS?

For the monitor, i'm not an expert, i found this at abut €110, it has a latency of 1ms and has AMD Free-Sync, it's good enough for photo editing, video editing and videogame or there's something better? Always something that's about €100.

23 minutes ago, johnny5c said:

More than long enough.

Perfect, I think i'll take the TX550M

2 minutes ago, johnny5c said:

Mostly so you can use custom cables of different colors and lengths.

Oh, well, you're right, I didn't think about that. However, the TX550M non-modular cables are long enough for an ATX case?

15 minutes ago, johnny5c said:

They're used in basically every system.  The TX550M has a Gold rating too.

Oh, so there is no problem at all (I don't understand at this point why the creation of the full modular PSU when you however need to always link those two cables). I think I will chose the TX550M, thank you all.

2 minutes ago, johnny5c said:

Yep the two that are always used, 24 pin and 8/4 pin.

So I always need to link those two cable, am I right? The only thing I prefer of the 550 B3 is the Gold Certification and there is another characteristics that I can't find anymore, but was interesting about this PSU

10 hours ago, Spotty said:

Do you mean the EVGA 550 B3?

The TX550M is better, as long as you don't mind the semi-modular cables.

Yes, I mean EVGA B3. I didn't see that the automatic corrector of my keyboard changed "B3" in "BE" every time i wrote it.

However i don't care about full modularity, but the TX has all type of protection (OVP, OPP, OCP, ecc.)? Also, the non-modular cable are the 20pin and the 4pin?

9 minutes ago, Juular said:

No idea what's that EVGA BE, can you link it ?

Either way there are no reviews on it i pretty sure if it's smth new so choosing from other options it's either Vengeance or TXm.

Vengeance will be slightly better probably, amirite @LukeSavenije ?

This is the 550 B3: https://www.amazon.it/EVGA-Garanzia-Compatto-Alimentazione-220-B3-0550-V2/dp/B071FC7SH5/

I need to take a PSU for my new build, 550W is enough, so I saw interesting PSUs and the better I found are those 4:

Corsair CX550M

Corsair Vengeance 550M

Corsair TX550M

Evga 550 B3

Between those PSU, I found that the CX550M has the japanese electrolytic capacitors and I also found that the Vengeance model is slightly better than the CX and has the same Japanese capacitors. Also, there is the TX model, that I read that is most powerful than the CX and the Vengeance with full Japanese capacitors, so I think is the most powerful above all 3 Corsair PSU. Am I right?

At last, I have the EVGA 550 B3, that I found is a powerful modular PSU and has a unique characteristic that I don't remember.

What do you think should i choose? The Corsair TX550M or the EVGA 550 B3 (I found them at the same prize, so the cost isn't a matter)?

9 hours ago, seagate_surfer said:

 

I grabbed this from their website and maybe the GPUs from before 2010 will not have this but since then basically any GPU can work with AC: 

Graphics Hardware

Recommended Microsoft® Direct3D 11® capable graphics card or higher ²Minimum Microsoft® Direct3D 10® capable graphics card or higher ²   Exceptions OpenGL 3.0 or higher is required for Autodesk® ReCap®

And you don´t really need OC nowadays, I would only get something higher than the GTX 1650, Maybe the 1070 or the super 1660 mentioned before...

So I will be fine with both RX 570 and GTX 1650S? Thank you

1 hour ago, Sat1600 said:

I also suggested an m.2 nvme ssd instead of a sata

Ok, I will later look about it, in the future I will add more RAM and probably a new SSD as you suggests. However, I have a questions, if I do video editing, I can be sure that the preview is 720p or higher and is fluid with Premiere / Vegas (for both RX 570 and GTX 1650S)? Also, those 2 programs, and others like AutoCAD, are totally compatible with my GPU? Because I heard that some GPU aren't supported by specific programs, can I be sure that mine will be? Also, if in the future I want to overclock CPU / GPU i'll need a new motherboard or this one is enough?

1 hour ago, Sat1600 said:

If you do your own search, just realize that there is a big difference between the 1650 and the 1650 super. Make sure it says super

Ok thanks. So, except from the GPU and the PSU, everything else is ok?