Eeerm yeah no. If you are gaming, take advantage of most game engines built in HRTF/binaural setting with a good normal pair of headphones. Also the virtual surround features on most gaming headsets are pretty bad. My soundcard has "surround" aka virtual surround and has sounded the best out of any virtual surround headset I've tried which doesn't mean good in this case. A better alternative to virtual surround is good EQ for headphones that actually have good imaging.
I would say looking at other reviews and seeing what people think of the 560s is that they are good in terms of sound and have I think worse build quality due to being full plastic except the grill. I can't say much about them but if you want a more vocal forward headphone with less bass and less soundstage, 560s or more bass and a bit bigger soundstage, Tygrs. That is what I've read. I think both are equal in great directional imaging but you decide. You might find the less bass better in the 560s or the opposite way around. You can always EQ more bass or less anyway but they respond differently to that. The earcups are of course different being oval and round on the Tygrs.
First impressions
I got my Tygr 300 R today and I was very excited to try them out. Packaging is as expected from Beyerdynamic at the price point. No fancy things just straight to the point, they're like, - Here is your headphones. The first thing I realized when picking them up was the weight because they are very light compared to my Hifiman He400se which I daily drive. I haven't really used any lighter headphones since I used my 990 Pros as my dailies. These went bad because I kind of "soldered" or heated up the driver a bit I think causing a quieter sound on the left side and now they're lying somewhere gathering dust. (I changed the cable from coiled to a straight one). I've paired the Tygrs with my Sound Blaster AE-9.
One of the reasons I bought these these was because I have had a long lasting problem with my He400se since I got them.
The only problem with them is that they have a channel imbalance. I've got a quieter driver on the right side which makes imaging horrid and I have to compensate with Windows settings to kind of balance it out. The problem with that is that the imbalance doesn't go along the whole frequency graph. I think planar magnetics are prone to this, or so I've read. It is not that bad but pretty noticeable. I should've gone for a replacement but I got these as a replacement from my old He400i 2020 that unfortunately broke loose in the 3.5mm port and had no connection.
Comfort
Anyways. In terms of comfort for the Tygrs, they are very light and clamp perfectly compared to my 990 pros I had. My He400se would be perfect if they were lighter. The headband is perfectly padded and conforms to my head, this is personal in terms of comfort I think. Compared to my He400se the headband is much more soft. Don't get me wrong. The He400se's are comfy in another way just too heavy and it has a hard and narrow headband.
Talking about the comfort of the He400se, they have better earpads in terms of shape due to the angled pads, it makes the headphones sit more secure that way for me. The earpads on the Tygr's, stock, are mediocre because of the harder padding and narrow space between the ears and driver wall. I think I will eventually switch them out for Dekoni elite velour, please if anyone tried that let me know the differences.
Build quality
These are built well enough to handle most things. These are both plastic and metal. The headband is metal with fake leather around it, metal yokes and the grill is also metal. The rest is plastic. They do feel hefty and durable. The pads are mediocre and I feel like they will flatten like my old 990 pros did.
Sound
The frequency response of the Tygr's non-EQ'd is very good and is my preference in sound signature. I like to add around 3dBs to the sub-bass and flatten out the curve/dip in the bass in the 60hz region for some music because I mostly listen to hardstyle, happy hardcore, eurodance, and a whole lot more EDM and some rock. I also EQ'd around 1k and 4k to add more detail in the mids and lower treble which they responded well to.
So actually talking about the sound. The Tygrs are a more smoothed-out pair of DT990 pros with a better soundstage with a little bit less detail. The way I could describe them is that they are a bit on the bloaty side in the mid-bass for people who love Sennheisers or very flat headphones. These are smooth and punchy, still maintain detail, and great at imaging with good layering. They don't have as an open/expansive soundstage as the 400se but sadly, the soundstage is more congested in a way on the 400se compared to a more deep/layered one on the Tygrs. The Tygrs have a different and lower tone in their openness compared to the 400se which makes them "immersive" when I play games or listen to euphoric tracks.
The actual difference in bass mids and highs is big because of the difference in the nature of dynamic and planar drivers. The 400se are much more clear and transparent and have a better representation of clean and fast bass but the quantity is very low. The Tygrs have more bass that almost drowns out too much mids but still retains a decent amount. One of the biggest differences in bass comparing dynamic and planar is the speed. The bass is definitely more punchy on dynamics so far as I can hear and know.
The treble on these are good and not at all sibilant anymore as the 990's. Treble is also comparable to the 400se in quantity. These have a small cushion on the driver wall to help drown out the highs that are piercing which is good. My pair of He400se's actually have a grainy treble for me which is kind of expected with the pricetag maybe?
The way I look at both of these is that they are good for different things as all headphones are. But the Tygrs for me are better because of a more suitable signature and overall sound for me, and they are more comfortable. I just wish I didn't have that problem with my He400se.
If you're gaming get a surround sound gaming headset. No pure stereo headphone is going to give you proper positional audio. If sound quality is what you're after on the other hand, an easy to drive regular audiophile headphone is a good choice. Sennheisers sound good and the 560s is a good choice, for sound quality, but as far as gaming I can't comment.
I use 560s cans, and like them a lot. I got them to replace Grado SR60 (loved them, were great play R6 Seige and listening for sneaky players and hunting them) headphones that broke so I couldn't do a direct comparison, but I would say comparable or better.
I hate to say it, but headphones are so subjective, that I would try to try them and pick my favourite.
Also, if you are this dedicated to sound, getting a DAC is probably a good idea for optimal sound. I'm just using the built in DAC on a elgato mic and it does a good enough job.
Don't listen to Milev. Good headphones are good headphones. Just use EQ and fix mids/treble for footsteps. If you want only headphones and not a mic. Get the Tygr 300 R. They are one of the best headphones for positioning under 200 whilst still being good in other aspects. These don't need an amp but do benefit a little bit. You can get listenable volume out of these and good quality without a separate DAC/amp as long as your PC doesn't have a shit one built in.
The PC38X (200 AUD) and the HD 560S headphones are soo old models! You are buying old elephants with inflated price.
If you are truly the top 1%, look no further than Razer or Asus brand. cause the 2 headphone u mentioned above are like hyped audiophile choices. I have Audio Technica, Sennheriser, Audeze headphones and they all have bad audio positioning in COD MW2. MP3/Movie on the other hand speaks differently.
Stay away from Surround upmixing/Dolby Atmos nonsenses.
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