RainingTacco

If you are buying new PSU why would you opt for an old design PSU like this seasonic? Also never skimp on PSU, the 20-30 dollar difference is 2% of the price of your PC,that's nothing.

Why NVME for pure game storage is stupid? Almost all games benefit from SSD, so i install all my games on SSD, only if i don't have space i move the games less depending on write/read speed on the HDD.

This is fucking hillarious Man you've made these memes yourself? I mean good for you, that even at 40-50 years old, you can make quality memes And btw seasonic recommends to point upward their hybrid PSU but i can't find this info for corsair products. Jonny, maybe pass the info to corsair team and make them update the FAQ?

It doesn't have the same deep states as haswell which was causing problems to group regulated psus. AMD deep states are less agressive.

He probably reused his old PSU for new build. AFAIK ryzen don't have deep sleep states so the PSU is okish. It's not amazing, it will regulate adequately, but it might have some funky behaviour under weird crossloads. I would try it first, if there will be bsods or crashes, you could always change the PSU.

Sennheisers are definitely high end headphones, but their driver is way too small to benefit from a DAC.

It's fine.

Write email to cooler master and ask them on what setup they are testing the cooler height, but i don't think this is important, the difference in height would be negligible between LGA/PGA, maybe 2mm max. I think you should be fine.

Why are you lazy? https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/mid-tower/masterbox-mb500/ CLEARANCE - CPU COOLER 163mm / 6.41"

It won't harm your GPU, but it can help. Go for it.

Lucifer V2 looks friggin rad, just slap a second fan and you have ultimate cooler. The only thing that could bother people is the color of the fan. Wish i knew about deepcool offer i would go with lucifer instead of mugen. Edit: Seems like Lucifer V2 has problems with AM4 installation, i would ask people who have this cooler to confirm it. Thats a fucking steal, go for it. A twin tower cooler with two fans for 25 usd? Are you joking? Go for it NOW!

Case is Meshify C. I have it positioned downward, but i wonder if i should position it upward. The PSU ceiling is pretty hot when i touch it, fans will not start up until 340W of draw power IIRC, that's quite a lot of heat to dissipate.

The best budget gaming chair under 100 pounds is...IKEA Marcus. Ok its actually 150 pounds in IKEA UK, jeeebus your prices are abysmal. https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/markus-office-chair-vissle-dark-grey-30261152/

The question is simple. Do you position it with fan facing bottom, or with fan facing upward[so it will get intake air from inside the case]. I heard that hybrid PSU should be placed with fan facing upward, since they can accumulate quite a lot of heat, that is otherwise trapped when facing downward. I have Corsair RMx 850.

RGB is only good when you play a game that has long loading times. Then you can watch your PC for a while. Personally i go for some cookies or take a piss. Matter of preference i guess...

Yes that's why it's better to run same fans off a single splitter. Otherwise you will deal with different levels of noise or airflow. I mean if you are buying such splitter you are probably going to put this into some radiator in push/pull config so it makes sense to use same fans.

It's recommended, because otherwise you can trap air bubbles.

Yes, use either ethyl alchol 70% and more and wait few minutes, while blowing air, or using hairdryer, or you use isopropyl alcohol, which evaporates in seconds. I recommend second, and you won't have to deal with an urge to drink it

Do you know what paste was used? Some were slightly conductive way back then, some were capacitative[like AS5]. Generally if this was a modern thermal paste, then there's no risk of short circuit anything. As i said PCB is not conductive, and cooler heatplate never touches that place,so you don't need to remove that paste.

Well only if it bothers you -it doesn't conduct heat from there, so if you are afraid to clean it then don't do it. Get a nice microfiber cloth or coffee filter, get some latex oneuse gloves, remove cpu, and clean it. Check the LGA for any paste left, it is not conductive, but some people claimed that thermal paste on LGA pins shortcircuited their mobo.

MSI command center have less options than BIOS, there's no hysteresis/step up time. About msi afterburner, i didn't know you can control case fans with it? I thought its only for GPu? I feel like a total retard and failure, for ditching that nice kryonaut and replacing it with scythe stock paste. I thought i've applied kryonaut improperly, since it was very gummy/thick[never had such thick paste in my life that would stick to spatula more than to IHS!] and would stick to spatula, so my IHS coverage was pretty patchy. Turns out i've just applied it inproperly -you have to make a very, very slow moves, when smearing it on IHS[or just squeeze it in X sign on IHS]. It has to be like tixotropic/non newtonian fluid, when you make a fast swipes,it hardens/become more dense. When you apply constant but little force, it relaxes and smear well.

I'm not so concerned about CPU that much[albeit i would like it to run cooler on idle] but i hate the fluctuating noise/fan problem :(. I've checked BIOS, and step-up/step-down time, has 0,7s max Maybe i've started noticing the problem right now, because before that i didn't have the fans tied to CPU temperature, i've actually had a controller with fixed voltage inputs so low, medium, high, and stop, and i set them manually. And i also never had amd cpu, always an intel guy[yeah im a shill :D].

Ok, how would you make a quiet PC with ryzen? Whether the CPU jumps 10-15 degrees the fans start to be pretty audible. I can either make a higher baseline RPM for case fans, which would make them louder but they would not ramp as much[its not the loudeness problem per se, constant noise is much better than a fluctuating noise], or make the case fans to have very low RPM, just until CPU hit above 60+ and then set them to ramp up/full power. I hate that i have to make such workarounds.

My problem is: -i don't want temps to fluctuate that much, why can intel manage this way better? -i want it to clock lower/downvolt more, to save energy and produce less heat -if all of above fails, i want to somehow manage this -ie. good fan settings to reduce that, maybe some bios options? Why i have the feeling that none of you read my post :D?

GPU: 5700 XT Gigabyte Gaming OC CPU: Ryzen 3600 CPU cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 rev.b Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar Max RAM: Patriot Viper Steel 3600mhz CL17 PSU: Corsair RMx 850 Operating System & Version: Windows 10 64 bit GPU Drivers: Newest drivers as of date. Chipset Drivers: Newest as of date BIOS: Newest as of date Background Applications: Idle, Chrome with 20-30 tabs. PC cooling: 2x140 in front at 1200 rpm when CPU climb at max temps, 2x120 rear and rear-top with 1200 rpm. Case: Meshify C Seriously how to make this CPU *NOT* constantly downclock/upclock, and change the temperature rapidly. Like my old I5 4670 had way better frequency control, power saving, and didn't jump in temperatures constantly. Is there any way to stop that? Any BIOS/software setting? I have sufficient cooling with Mugen 5 rev b and kryonaut, getting max 67-70 degree at furmark CPU/AIDA FPU tests, so cooling is not a problem. I've even repasted CPU with different paste[the one that came with Mugen 5 rev b], saw a temp. increase over kryonaut, but the fluctuations/spikes persisted as before.So this fluctuations completely destroys any fan curve, and make my case fans too loud on idle. I've thought on tying the fan speed with MOBO mosfet temps instead of CPU, but they hardly climb with how good MSI B450M mortar max manages the stock ryzen.I've tried to make a higher baseline RPM curve for lower temps, so it have more than enough cooling in low temps to manage the spikes, but it didnt help anything...I didn't try to change the step-up/step-down times[its basically hysteresis/inertia right?], maybe that will fix it? Though i doubt it, because it would need to be something like 1-2s of inertia, and there's no such value in BIOS. As a last resort i will try to use the stock cooler and check if it helps. Maybe the mugen is defective? But then, why it works under heavy load? If there was something funky with contact between IHS and mugen heat plate, it would make the temps skyrocket under prime95/aida fpu. CPU sits 34*C idle at the windows desktop[32 at bios], when you move mouse it goes to 43-44*c, when you open chrome it can sometimes go to 50*C, and opening the chrome with lots of tabs it can go even as high as 59-60*C!!!. The frequency on all cores don't drop below 3600 mhz, and 1.0V, slightly moving mouse and bam you have 1,3-1,4V and 4,2GHz on desktop, same for chrome. im pretty pissed after moving from a I5 4670 with a lousy stock cooler that run flawlessly, compared to this. I've never had such problems with Intel Pentium 4, E8400 and I5 4670. Never seen 10*C-15*C jumps in idle, or 20-25*C jumps when opening chrome with CoreTemp monitoring program along. Never seen CPU running such high freq and voltage on idle.[the i5 4670 runs 0,7v -0,8ghz on idle, and even if the frequency and voltage jumps for a fraction, the temperature increase is not that much[5-8*C, with chrome its 10-12*C], whereas ryzen runs 3,6ghz 1,0v all the time on idle. This also badly impact environement and my bills, since its wasted electricity. Question is, i heard people talking about enabling/disabling cool and quiet, enabling/disabling power supply idle control, enabling/disabling PBO,setting P-states, manually overclocking/setting cores on the CPU to remedy this problem. So which one to do to fix the problem? I don't want to test all these settings, and screw something. Is there really no way to change it? I can't imagine a 2019 CPU needs to run its clocks at 3,2-3,6ghz at idle, to manage mundane tasks, when my old Haswell I5 4670, downlocked to 0,8GHz!!![and upclocked to 3,6 GHz when necessary!], and still run chrome/idle fine, with great temperatures[albeit i had 60hz monitor back then, idk if that changes anything, i doubt]