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Hello, Thanks for the input. I could probably have gone indeed for a htpc case. Ultimately, my mate was fine with micro atx and it is easier to build with. Next project I will take up that challenge :D. I went back and forth with the CPU. i3 12100 is indeed cheaper, celeron too, but the 5600G has 6 cores and is more efficient. The 5600G might be overkill now, however it will also ensure he will not have to buy a new cpu for quite some time.

Budget (including currency): 760 euro's Country: Belgium Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: office, browser Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Hello fellow PC builders. i have built a new pc for a friend to replace his aged laptop. Since he never actually moves the laptop, I suggested a micro atx build instead. To which he agreed. Now, he does not game and simply has to be able to use office and his browser. We also kept longevity [the parts ideally do not need an upgrade for several years] and power consumption in mind (energy prices are going through the roof in Europe). So while the workload does not require top of the line parts, they should be both a strong upgrade from his 2012 HDD laptop and have the PC handle the next 5-6 years with a breeze. So I went for the followimng parts: -AMD 5600G EUR 170,72 -G-Skill Aegis 16GB 3200Mhz EUR 60,30 -Asrock A520M-HVS EUR 56,84 -Be Quiet! Power 9 400 W CM (80 plus bronze, semi modular) EUR 50,33 -WD Blue SN570 1TB M.2 Nvme SSD EUR 85,41 -Inter-Tech Micro-Tower H-606 EUR 48,76 -TP-Link USB wifi-adapter EUR 20,30 -Cherry keyboard EUR 25,37 -Amazon speakers EUR 16 -Asus VA279HAE monitor (1080p, 75hz, 27inch) EUR 151,50 -Shipment costs EUR 10 So parts including shipment is EUR 695,46. No mouse given he already has a perfectly fine one. Count up 50 euro's assembly, software installation & migration (which I did) and 10 euro's for windows 10 and office 2021 license keys, and it is rounded up 760 euro's. Again, the goal was to not overspend on hardware he would not have any use for anyway, while also not cheaping out and having the PC future proof for quite a few years to come. I did chose that specific motherboard because the webshop listed the 5600G as compatible. I don't have older AMD ryzen chips around, so the bios version already supporting the 5600G was critical. The Asus monitor also has a good filter for eye protection, something we also kept in mind. Assembly went without a hitch. The case is a little bit tight and does not have a good cable compartment, but since I went for a semi-modular PSU this was not an issue. The only problem I ran into was the XMP/DOCP profile not running the RAM at 3200mhz, but at the standard 2133Mhz. I fixed this by updating the bios to the latest version. Just want an opinion, also for similar future builds. Are these solid choices? Could better choices have been made?

I am at that point right now - too many devices needing a port. More devices are coming too.

Hello, I am currently contemplating how I can make the most of my usb ports on my mobo. I have 2 usb 2.0 ports, 4 usb 3.0 ports and 2 usb 3.2 ports. I was wondering if I could plug a 4 port usb hub into one of the 2.0 mobo ports. In the hub I would plug in the following: an external HDD (sepately powered), a mouse, a keyboard and a bluetooth adapter. My reasoning is that all of those devices do not need high data transfer rates. they would not be bottle necked by 1/4th usb 2.0 transfer rate. It would keep my usb 3.0 and 3.2 ports free for devices that do need the higher transfer rates. Is there anything I am overlooking in this?

Hello, I am looking to buy a new monitor around the 250 euro price point, Features I require for a minimum are: -Atleast 27inch -QHD -Bare minimum Screen Resfresh Rate of 75Hz, but preferably atleast 100Hz Options like curved panel are nice, but not required if better panels are available for the price. I landed for now on the Samsung G5 Odyssey 27 inch, but I was wondering if there are better monitors out there for this price point?

Hello, I have an Aerocool Cylon Pro cases for my current build, a choice I am regretting more with each passing day. The case has rgb in the front panel, but this is not configurable through the motherboard. Only through a button on the front panel, Naturally this is a bit frustrating given I cannot exactly bring it in tune with the rest of the rgb components, On close inspection however, the header at the rgb seems to be a simple 4 pin configuration, I could connect those 4 pins to the motherboard RGB header with jumper cables; I am not sure whether I should be doing this though. Can I break, shortcircuit or overload something if I was to do this? The way the normal setup is, is that 2 cables from this header go the button to adress t he rgb, while 2 cables go to a sata power connection.

I firmly disagree. I did my research by comparing to comparable hardware and the performance is within margin of error. I also ran ingame benchmarks which also gave very similar performance to comparable systems. I have around 2% performance loss, which disregarding even margin of error could be attributed to an old W10 installation which on its own is upgraded from an W7 installation, In essence what you are describing is a bloated W10 installation vs a fresh windows install. In that case the cause of performance loss is not any driver issues from a system switch, but down to windows not running optimally, not even on the old system. That is not to say no issues can arise or that you cannot run into performance loss. It depends.

If your performance is hit, then you should do a clean install. However, he also specifically stated the difference could be "neglible" and "within margin of error". Also referring to how "bogged down" your original windows install could be to begin with it. From what I tested so far, performance seems to be around the expectations of what an 5600x could do.

The thing I found most appealing going down this route is the lack of risk. Either it doesn't work and you still have all your files, or it does and you still have all your files.

and yet I did. Just wanted to create this topic to share some thoughts on my own personal switch from an old intel platform to a new AMD one. I had an old chipset, an Asus Rampge III Extreme board. Coupled with a X5675 CPU. The hardware is dating back to 2011 and even though this combination held up very well with the components not even close to failing, it just isn't as strong enough anymore for current demands. So I decided to upgrade. To an Asus ROG Strix B550-A and an AMD 5600x. Now I did some research on the matter up front, and although windows 10 is very lenient towards hardware changes, quite a few people reported issues from a switch from intel to amd, especially with a 10 years generation gap, in windows 10. The recommendation was to do a fresh windows 10 install. I decided to risk it anyway. If I had issues, I would be reinstalling windows 10 anyway. I did not uninstall the old intel drivers up front. The hardware changes took their time as expected, Booting up the first time the windows drive was recognized, but not booted up. I had to go into the UEFI to change some boot settings to a legacy configuration. After that, it did booted into the windows loading screen where understandably it took some time to load up the proper drivers for the first time. But... once into windows I experienced no issues or glitches. At all. All the hardware works properly, and nothing out of the ordinary happened. I ran cinebench R15 and R20 and I got performance numbers around the benchmarks it usually performs. Not even a performance loss from the platform switch. I did ran a driver cleanup tool afterwards to get rid of the old intel drivers. Not that I experienced issues, but just to make sure nothing odd will happen. So yeah... from my own personal experience I can recommend a platform switch without reinstalling windows 10. Chances are nothing out of the ordinary will happen, and if you do you can always reinstall windows afterwards.

Prices on the second hand market for a 3600 were as low as 140 euro's second hand and 170 euro's new price 4 months ago though. It definitely has gone up where I life.

Hello, I am watching second hand prices for a while now as I am planning to do a build in a couple of months. What I noticed is that parts over the last few months, for the european/belgian-netherlands market is that prices for these parts rose through the roof instead of going down. I am seeing AMD ryzen 3600's being sold for 180 euro's, barely 10 euro's cheaper then what you can find them for new price. Even older hardware like i5-6500's have gone up in prices. The only exception are previous generation gpu's which have massively dropped due to Nvidia's better performance to price ratio's. Is this perhaps indicative for shortages on the market?

Hello, This is going to be a long explanation, but it's needed, so please bare with me. My company is currently dealing with a very strange and significant problem. You see, our parent company pushed down skype for business on us (for windows desktops), replacing our classic phone devices with voip through skype for business. That got installed last week and aside a few minor issues and glitches, that works fine. We have a 2 trap system, where the 2 employees on the bottom floor get inbound calls first and if those 2 are occupied or don't answer in 20 seconds, the call gets pushed to everybody else at the office. That's how we intended it to work and it did just that, but than we ran into a big issue. One of the features we were eager to try out, was call forwarding to our cell phones should we be away from our desks. So installed the skype for business app on one of our employee's phone. Although it did forward it correctly, we were running into issues where only that phone, once the phone calls went from the bottom floor to the second one, would receive inbound calls. So we removed the app to avoid disrupting the normal work flow. Only, that cell phone would keep receiving the inbound phone calls even with the skype for business app removed. This is what happens exactly: should the employees on the bottom floor be occupied/unable to answer the call and the call gets then pushed to the second floor, the employees on the second floor would get a pop on their windows desktop screens that there's a call, but only for a brief moment, before it say "call answered by employee X", employee X being the one who we originally installed the app on his cell phone, who does not have the app anymore, but keeps getting the calls anyhow. He does not answer the call at all yet on his collegues skype desktop programs it simply tells us he answered the call, making the rest unable to pick up that call! This issue does not present itself for collegues calling one another. This is of course a huge problem, because should that employee not be available, nobody is able to answer that call effectively. It effectively forces him to forego his normal daily tasks to keep tabs on his cell phone. We asked our parent company's IT department for help, but... well they have not shown the most intellect in this case and wasted half a day even just to be able to get into direct contact with them. We did a search on this issue and found this: https://support.microsoft.com/en-ae/help/3145650/mobile-phone-number-receives-incoming-calls-after-the-simultaneously-r Since we had not a single clue, not even a warning in the app, that we had to logout in the app before removing it, else we get to deal with a orphaned registration on the front end server, it's really lamentable that we got into this situation. My question is as follows: does anybody had to deal with this issue before, and is there maybe a solution that does not involve having to wait 15 days to have this problem fixed?

Oh that is the exact same card I have in one of my pc's! That card is extremely overclockable, and in normal conditions the factory overclock should not be giving any issues whatsoever. I am not sure if it is the riser cable, but try it out regardless. Keeping the amount of variables low as possible is always a good thing during trouble shooting. If it still happens, last resort would be to put the card in a friend's pc and see if the same crash occurs. It's likely something on the card is causing this. A resistor/capacitor getting too hot or something. Unfortunaly that is out of my ball park. The card might still run fine during gaming; Unigine Heaven is quite taxing on the card; you might not experience issues during gaming.

Did you overclock the GPU? Maybe it is crashing due not getting enough power. Try to raise the voltage a tiny bit and see if that gets it stable. Do not change anything else for now. Not sure if you are using the 1060 or the 570; the 1060 isn't known for having systematic issues. Maybe try to reseat the card too. It could be the thermal paste too; maybe a small part of the card gets extremely hot. Not sure which exact 1060 6gb you have, but it shouldn't be too much a hassle to replace the paste.

That looks very clean; I'd keep using that PSU. Just be sure to put nothing too taxing in your system. Maybe blow out the little bit of dust too. But like others said: no bulged capacitors, no corrosion on the PCB, nothing that even looks out of the ordinary. At the end of the day, it is an electric device. It can always fail, but in reality this PSU should be safe to use for some more years. Maybe try to run the PSU outside the PC case to check if the fan spins normally and decently. I can't possibly imagine that being a problem, but if it gives you further assurance, I'd do that as well. If you are going to overclock, get a power meter plug to check on wattage. Make sure you aren't pushing close to the rated max wattage of the psu.

If you are asking if most 3000 series cards will be consuming more than the 2080Ti specifically, the answer would highly likely be no.

Either your CPU is thermal throttling, something broke in it or you are indeed running too many background programs. Though I assume you have looked into the latter yourself. You said you replaced the GPU's thermal paste. Did you do the same for the CPU? The GPU is not the problem here; your CPU is bottlenecking the GPU.

Hello, I got my dad a new phone. Lovely device, but we hit an issue: if his phone is in standby for a little while, so without the screen on, whatsapp stops receiving messages. The messages will not be received until he opens up whatsapp. Now, after that if he closes the phone and messages are being send shortly after, those messages will be received. But, if the phone is closed for like 15 minutes it will stop receiving again. So I don't immediately know what's going on. Is there some setting that turns off wifi or whatsapp while in standby?

The notion about IPC was learnful! Thanks about that. I guess I didn't hear about since the manufacturers aren't too keen on releasing those numbers

I did that for kicks and giggles. It beats a similarily clocked 3770k by a healthy margin in Cinebench R15. See the video for the 3770k: I also have to correct myself, it's not a 5650 (which has 12 cores), but a 5675. My CPU got, with a clockspeed of 4375Mhz in the bios, task manager and CPU-Z, on the multi-core test 923 points 970 points (I did a.second test with more time after booting) The single core score is 127, which does get soundly beaten by the 3770k. Unfortunaly it gets heavily beaten by an AMD Ryzen 2 3600, which at 4200Mhz clockspeed gets a 1578 score.

Hmm, So there is more to the cpu just than clock speed and cores? I know it's an old cpu, but given the equal amount of cores/threads and on par clock frequency (after OC), compared to the AMD Ryzen 3600, it should be equal in performance no? The mobo however I do think is too causing a bottleneck.

Hello, One of my pc's is an old system with the following specs: -Rampage III Extreme motherboard -Xeon X5650 6 cores OC'ed to 4.2Ghz -A rather unfortunate mix and match of a 3x2GB tripple channel DDR3 memory, and a single stick of 8GB memory. -A GTX 1070 Now, I know the memory setup is horrible. It works, but the mix and match will make all the stick run just in single channel. This is a trade off I choose years ago when I needed more memory above all else. However, I am starting to feel the memory is becoming a hampering factor. The memory speed is unfortunaly limited to 1000Mhz and I can't seem to get it higher due the older 3x2GB tripple channel memory. At this point the system is just too old to invest more money into what is outdated technology. I am just wondering: how much is this memory setup hampering overall gaming performance? Am I correct to state the difference is signficant compared to a new PC with similar CPU performance and the same graphics card, but with something like DDR4 3200Mhz performance?

600W is more than enough in all honesty, even if you OC the 3900x. Unless the 700W comes with some extra features. EDIT: just checked and there doesn't seem to be extra features. You should go for the 600W CM version (which is semi-modular).

Is there any news on the TDP? Might be just a fetish for me, but I do like power/heat efficient cards