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If you are going for a DDR5 setup, do consider AM5. Yes, that is more expensive now than Intel's DDR5 options and a little bit weaker. However, AM5 has platform support up to 2025. Meaning your next upgrade costs next time can be limited to just a new cpu. The next intel generation will most likely be on a new platform, and will force you to buy a new motherboard as well if you want to upgrade your CPU.

I decided on the B550. I looked up more reviews and bascally all are saying they are more or less the same. The X570 has nothing to convince me over, the B550 has that extra usb-A port at the I/O, which wins me over.

Budget (including currency): 600-800 euro's Country: Belgium Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Light video editing (shotcut), home entertainment. Other details: itx build Hey there! Thought I'd start a thread about my first mini pc build. I have done normal atx builds in the past, but I am having a more specific use case for this buld. for my job I often do some video editing at home (giving the laptop from work does not have the hardware to do it properly) in the evening. Given I also need to take back those hours, this often conflicts with my normal responsibilities during the dayjob. I am also looking to replace my current, chunky htpc (more like a bulky matx case really) for my home entertainment system. I use my main atx build for proper gaming, but I do like to game from time to time on my bigger tv screen with the htpc. Next to that I use it to watch movies etc. However, the platform itself is from 2012. Basically in need of an upgrade I figured a mini pc build would be the best course of action, something I can easily take along to my work place and when I get back home easily plug back in. To try to keep costs down, I am spreading the purchase of parts over a few months. So i will not be immedately be getting all the components and have it up and running, but I can start atleast with it. The parts will be a mixture of new components, used ones and components I recuperated out of the current htpc. Current part list: -Case: second hand Fractal Node 202. Usually costs around 100 euro's, bought it for 57 euro's second hand, including 2 case fans. Already bought and underway. Cost: 57 euro's (already bought) -Motherboard: Asrock B550 Phantom Gaming Gaming-ITX/ax. I wasn't able to find a good second hand AM4 itx motherboard and this is unfortunately the most expensive part. I landed on this to get a good price to features ratio. 2 m.2 slots, 2.5gigabit ethernet, good build quality. I could have gone cheaper with an A520 or lower B550 mobo, but these options seem dodgy and I would always sacrifice something. So I landed on this as a compromise. Already bought and underway. Cost: 230 euro's (already bought) -RAM: G.skill trident z 3000mhz 2 x 8 GB. I have a kit of these at home unused so I will be using that. I might upgrade in the future, only if needed, to a 32GB kit. Cost: 0 (already owned) -CPU: 3700x. Since Shotcut can use up to 8 cores (if 4K rendering), I am looking something that can deliver on that. In that sense I will buy a a second hand 3700x. Cost: 100 euro's (already bought) -CPU cooler: Cryorig C7. Currently have this one installed in my htpc and I will be reusing it (I have the AM4 brackets). Ideal cooler for a small build. Cost: 0 (already owned) -Storage: 2TB nvme drive utlimately, 512GB sata drive initially. I will be reusing my Kingston SSD sata drive from the current htpc initially for storage. Down the line I do want a nvme drive in it with enough storage to not run into storage limitation for the next few years. EDIT: I put in the 512GB sata drive. I changed my mind a bit on this and instead going for an expensive 150 euro's 2TB, I bought an 80 euro's 1TB WD Blue SN570. If I ever need to upgrade, I can use the extra m.2 slot on the back of the motherboard. Cost: 150-200 euro's (for new m.2 nvme drive) 80 euro's (new m.2 1TB drive) -PSU: Cooler Master V550 SFX Gold. basically the cheapest brand new modular SFX psu I could find. I can score one for 55 euro's. Cost: 55 euro's -GPU: I am reusing my 1050ti from my htpc. Shotcut is not gpu intensive (the requirement is a directx 11 compatible card). Given this is a small card and only needs the power from the pcie slot, it is excellent for the build. I miiiiggghhht eventually replace it with a better card, but it's not needed at all right now. Just need a card to get a video output and that can do some light gaming if really needed. Cost: 0 (already owned) Total projected costs: around 617 euro's. Total eventual costs: 522 euro's I'll be adding pictures along when I get the parts in and am building the pc. Again, it'll be a slow burner because I am spreading the costs and so the purchases across a few months .

These are the models: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B550 Phantom Gaming-ITXax/index.asp https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X570 Phantom Gaming-ITXTB3/index.asp

I think your cpu is bottle necking your gpu. You have 2 realistic options: -Either A 13600k with a Z690. This is a solution that does not break the bank, but does not bring much in terms of upgradeability in the future. -Or a 7600x wth a B650 board and DDR5 memory. A lot more expensive, but the AM5 platform runs up to 2025, meaning your future upgrade costs will be limited to a cpu drop in.

Hello! I am planning an am4 itx mini pc build with a 5700X cpu; I plan to use it for some light video editing with shotcut. I have narrowed down my motherboard choice between aforementioned 2 motherboards. Price difference is only a couple of euro's. now importantly, the B550 has one more USB A port than the X570. I assume the X570 has better power stages, but I am not sure i even need that for a ryzen 5700X. What would be the better choice?

I updated the bios a couple of months ago. I'll try to do the vbios, although I have never done that before.

Yes the old card did give picture during the bios splashscreen. This is not a case of the pc booting too fast, but really of not getting a picture out until it is loaded into windows. Rebooting actually gives a picture out on splashscreen, just not on a cold boot. I am worried about this because if i ever have an issue preventing a cold boot, with information being showed on a POST screen, I will not be able to read it. It is a problem I can ignore if nothing ever goes bad, but not a chance I am willing to take. For the record, I did use DDU before installing the new GPU.

In my case it is disabled.

Hello, I recently replaced my gtx 1070 with a 3070ti. Whenever I do a cold boot, there is no picture out during the post /splash picture phase. Once it gets into windows it does give a picture and everything works perfectly fine. Curiously, if I were ti reboot at this point (contrary to shutting down and booting again) it will show the splash screen. I am not sure what is causing this. Seems the card works perfectly fine when stressed.

Should be fine granted you did not pair it with a power hungry cpu and are not overclocking. I would not upgrade from 550w to 600w. That is a waste of money; better safe up a bit more money and then go for 750-850 watts to be future proof.

Just a little update: I replaced my psu which safely allows me to run the card back at 100%. Curiously, the card was performing not that much worse at 65% power limit vs 100%. 106 fps vs 116 fps in heaven benchmark.

Taken the message from @Dogzilla07 in mind, so if the price is correct, then probably good enough. Reputable brand, no immediate widespread issues found on google at first sight, and 5 year warranty. I do not have enough of a technical background to know if the components it has are good, but it does not appear to be a fire hazard.

A failing psu can end up sending way too much current to your other components, frying them and effectively destroying them. Given it is failing now, the likelyhood of it frying other components each time you try to use it now, will increase. Worse, it can set the whole thing ablaze. It is very rare, but housefires have happened due a psu not working properly. Most PSU's have securities built in to avoid things like that to happen. However, those can fail. At the end of the day, you are working with electricity. You have to be cautious. 3 years lifetime for a psu is very weak. A decent quality psu gets 7 years factory warranty for instance, meaning the brand is very confident it will last that long and very likely even longer. There are cheap psu's out there that can work perfectly fine for 10 years, however you can never know that in advance with such psu's and you will be taking a gamble. Paying 40 euro's more to remove that gamble and to protect 1000 euro's worth of components, and in very extreme cases even your house, is highly advisable. Yes, you are paying quite a premium and big quality brands will overprice their psu's. Still advisable to do so.

A mate from me is also from Serbia. He told me it is very difficult to get eletronics there for a decent price, so I feel for you. I also had the same issue in belgium until I found a good deal. Still, it is better to spend an unreasonably amount on a psu than to fry your other expensive components.

@--SID--I found an A-tier PSU for a good price: Fractal Design ION Gold 750W, 70 euro's. Thanks for the tips mate.

Not sure what that is, but I will take that in consideration. From what I have read, 650 watts should be doable. I am not going to overclock, and the cpu is also pretty low on the power demand. I am aware of the famous power spikes of the 30 series. In that regard, would a Corsair TX650M 2021 do? it is not featured on the list as far as I can see, but does seem to have this LLC. Thanks for the assist up to now btw! I know I am a bit difficult, but I want to avoid both underspending and overspending.

Those are all rediculously priced. I am not out to buy a cheap psu that breaks down after a year, but I can't help to think I will be overpaying on features I simply do not need.

Well it is indeed old, but I am not aware of it being bad? I never ever had any issues whatsoever with it, have been using it with a 1070 for years now. If it is bad however, I will wait with installing the 3070ti until I get a new psu. Would a be quiet! System Power 9 700W CM be any good?

@Dimondminer11 seems alright. I'll give that a go. @Somerandomtechyboi I haven't budgeted a new psu this month. I could buy it without too much trouble, but given uncertain financial times in Europe, it is a matter of spreading costs. So I will buy a new one, but next month after my next salary deposit. @--SID-- Corsair cx500m. Cpu is 5600x (no OC), so no heavy hitter cpu.

Hello, I recently purchased a 3070ti which I will receive today. Reflecting a bit, I was a bit too optimistic that my 500w psu would handle it. I will buy a higher wattage one next month, but in the meanwhile I want to avoid issues with the 500w psu through underclocking/undervolting the 3070ti. What would be recommendations for it regarding msi afterburner?

You will have to explain that one because I have absolutely no clue what MIC is for RAM.

Yes, but A1 and B1 are also intended for dual channel. Nothing contradicts this and the bios will even tell you if you misplaced dimms, which it did not for that setup.

I today ran into an issue that feels... odd. I have an Asus strix B550 A-Gaming coupled with a ryzen 5 5600x. The ram slots from left to right are called B1, B2, A1, A2. B1 & A1 and B2 & A2 are the 2 dual channel set ups. Previously I had a G-skill Trident Z 2x8GB 3000mhz kit. The DIMM's were put in B1 and A2. DOCP never worked but since I was able to manually set the RAM speed at 3000mhz I did not gave it much thought. Today I received a G-skill Trident Z Royal 2x8GB 3600Mhz kit. I replaced my previous kit with this in the same B1 and A1 slots. This booted normally at the default 2133mhz speed. I tried again to turn on DOCP, pc would not post with this and returned to default 2133mhz. So tried to set it manually to 3600mhz. Again no post and defaulted back to 2133mhz. I then tried several things, like updating the bios and setting the timings and voltage manually. Again no luck at 3600mhz. I then took a more gradual approach. Since it would atleast post at the default 2133mhz, it should not just be a hardware malfunction. I gradually upped the RAM speed going from 2133mhz, each time getting a post. The max speed with it posting was 3133mhz. At 3200Mhz it would not post. I was kind of a bit frustrated by this, as the ram kit is 3600mhz and I did want that performance. I took the manual to see if I overlooked something. The manual refers for single dim te be installed in B2, and a 2 DIMM kit in B2 and A2. Only if 4DIMMs are at play, it would refer to using B1 and A1. I did notice this before when I just got the board, but I figured this was only because a big cooler could impede RAM clearance for slot B1.Since my cooler does not tower over the slot, I put the dimm's in B1 and A1 at the time. I then switched my modules from B1&A1 to B2&A2. And this worked: the ram speed is sitting perfectly fine at 3600mhz. It leaves me a bit confused, since nowhere in the manual it refers to B1&A1 to be the "inferior dual channel" setup. Is this normal, or is there an issue at play?

Ehh, I made a typo for the usb wifi adapter. It is EUR 20.33. My apologies on that. I am not considering used parts. If it was a build for myself, then yes I would be doing that. However, if I am building something for others i only work with new parts due to the warranty and being able to send right back to the seller if a part does not work. In that regard, a new B450 is more expensive than a new A520M. Also, the extra overclock features are not being used (the 5600G is powerful as it is, and overclocking will only increase power consumption). The only 'overclock' happening is the DOCP/XPM profile which the A520M supports. Actually, the A5220M features quite a few OC options (see picture). The PSU is 15 euro's more expensive than the cheapest one (a random generic none 80 plus 300W PSU) I could find for my region. By paying 15 euro's more, I got 80 plus bronze, semi-modular cabling and a trustable brand. Given how critical the PSU is (the saying goes "do not cheap out on your PSU"), that extra 15 euro's is worth it.