Tagara

Update to my last reply. Using my old PSU I'm benchmarking the M.2 just fine. Earlier today I could play a few minutes of Black Ops II before shutting down, used it as a test across PSU to see if it triggers the problem along with the M.2. Right now all is running fine.

Around 9 or 10 years ago now I decided I was going to purchase what I believe was Minecraft. I had tried the free version be registering a ton of accounts, as I somehow kept forgetting the passwords for them. When the day I was going to ask my parents to purchase it for me, as it was online only, I sat down to create my final account. I couldn't forget the username or password from now on. I have always liked cars, but at that age it was more the looks of them that mattered + knowing the more common brand names. When I sat there thinking of a name I recalled my uncle had a car from a brand that is barely seen where I live but I was always excited to see it when I was visiting as it looked cool. It was an Acura (unsure of the model, could've been a Integra but not sure.) After some time my brain came up with Tagara. I knew it wasn't right, but it felt somewhat close, and I never thought of asking or checking the internet for cars. Glad I didn't and instead kept it as Tagara. Still using it and I love it!

I have no clue anymore. Right now I'm chatting to the vendor I bought the parts from, just waiting for a shipping label. They also suspect the motherboard based on what I told them. And asked if I was fine with sending in several of the new parts, since they're all under warranty anyways, so they can test it all because why not. Using my older SATA SSD I have been running just fine until I can send it to them. However of course today it started turning off again. This time when I power on again the lights for the fans, CPU cooler, RAM, etc. lights up for a split second and I'm unable to turn it on. If I try again nothing happens, however it did boot if I flicked off and on my PSU. Only for it to shut down just like before a little later. It's just bizzare at this point. Why would using / benchmarking my M.2 shut it off, in both slots. But I'm able to run Prime95 (even after the new issue) for max CPU power usage. Is there something that would cause a faulty motherboard to not want to power on again until I completely cut power? The lights on the motherboard itself is on like they always have been when turned off.

Update, tested the M.2 in my friend’s PC. Ran the benchmarks, no unexpected shutdowns. Since it happens in both M.2 slots I suppose we can safely say it’s the motherboard at this point?

I'm planning to do this asap. Most likely tomorrow at some point.

Oops! Fixed. When I could still use the SSD I did play a game that I was running off the M.2. However, in the early stages, it did shut off when playing games stored on a HDD as well. I'd love to test with a different M.2 but I have only one. Nobody I know have spares. Regardless of slot with my M.2 the system doesn't like it and powers off. When Viewing CrystalDisk doesn't show anything wrong with it. Only when I start using it during a benchmark, or otherwise normal usage. The best thing I can do right now is to test my M.2 on a friend's system. Due to distance, etc. I'm unable to take my PC with me. But I'm looking around for options. Thanks!

A quick post here as I've already done as much troubleshooting as I can think of. Specs are posted last if you're wondering. Story: Early last week my PC started shutting off. No freezes, no signs, errors that I can find or BSODs. They did seem to happen at around 23:00 - 1:20 for whatever reason. Also while playing games. The same game was played at all times, nothing demanding. As you'll see I can rule out software issues. After more testing the system ran fine when not playing games. I did some short stress tests in Prime95, all good. Playing games yielded a shutdown after a while. On at least two accounts it took around 20 minutes or so for it to occur. After a day it became worse, shutting off even when doing basic tasks, which it had no issues with in the past. Stable when sitting in BIOS, same thing when booting from a bootable USB with Linux. PC is now turning off even during Windows startup. To rule out software I decided to clean install Windows on my M.2 SSD, which is my OS drive. During install is turns off. I go back to my bootable Linux and all is fine and I can play games, etc. and be stable. I grab my old SATA SSD and install it and throw Windows on it. All is good, and my M.2 SSD is still plugged in, but completely wiped at this point. Running a benchmark with CrystalDisk makes my PC turn off the instant I press the button. Moving my M.2 SSD, the prime suspect at this point, to the second slot allows me to run a benchmark but not for long. New attempt after this yields in my PC turning off the instant I press the button. I move the SSD back to slot #1, still having issues. But having it plugged in and detected by Windows there's no issues. It's all a little bizzare to me. Can it be the SSD that has gone bad? I can understand my PC shutting off, or it makes more sense, for when it had the OS on it. But a completely empty drive shutting my PC of when benchmarking? Switching slots on the mobo didn't change results in the end either. Am I looking at a bad mobo or a bad SSD? Can I somehow run diagnostics or something in BIOS or via other software to test my M.2 slots, even if empty? I have no other M.2 drivers to test on my mobo, and I have no mobos to test the M.2 with. I'd have to travel to a friend's place, and at this time I am unable to bring the PC with me. Only the M.2 to see if it turns his system off when in use. He doesn't have a spare drive for me to test with either, nor does he have a mobo for me. Summary: If my M.2 is in actual use, regardless of slot, my PC shuts off. Over 2-3 days it got worse until I couldn't even stay in Windows, as the SSD is my OS drive. Confirmed the system is stable using a SATA SSD for the OS. But it shuts off if I try to benchmakr the now empty M.2 SSD. I can open it in Explorer, even if there's no files. So, bad motherboard or SSD? Specs: CPU: Ryzen R7 3700X (stock cooler, no added tweaks) GPU: MSI GTX 970 RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 3600 mhz Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB (Faulty?) Power: Cooler Master MWE Gold 550W

Hi. I just put together my new system on Monday, so I haven't had it for long. Ever since I finished the build I've had it crash once, more or less every single day that I've been using it since it was built. Here's my specs: CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X Motherboard: Asus ROG X570-E Gaming (Latest BIOS installed) RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 16GB DDR3 3600MHz (running @ 2666MHz) GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5T OS Storage: Samsung EVO 970 Plus 500GB (NVMe) PSU: Cooler Master MWE Gold 550W Crash history: 1. Not long after actually getting the PC booted up for the first time I knew I had to mess with RAM timings, etc. to have them running at their advertised speed. At the time I was not aware that XMP might be named something else for Asus / AMD systems. However I did attempt to turn up their speed to 3600MHZ, so at this point I'm assuming I only changed their speed, and nothing else. Started the PC and everything seemed fine, tried a game of League of Legends and the PC completely froze a few minutes in-game. I quickly reset the RAM speed and went back in. Everything worked fine after that incident for the rest of that evening. 2. I got on the PC, did some browsing before I booted up EVE: Online and logged in. For those who might be familiar with the game I just undocked my ship from the station, not long after my PC froze again in the same way as it did the first time. EVE isn't really a demanding title at all, even less so in comparison to LoL I'd imagine. 3. Today, again not long after booting it up for the day. Watched some YouTube when it froze once more. The picture on my screen just freezes and all sound disappears until I hold down the power button. Notes / troubleshooting: Being able to troubleshoot isn't really something I've had to do very much of in the past. I'll list any notes and / or troubleshooting steps I have done, and might do here. 1. After the 2nd crash, seeing as both were from playing a game, I decided to run a (very) short AIDA64 stability test to see how the system reacted. I only ran it for about 5 minutes however as I had to go, but the system was just fine.

Might as well post on forums. Seems you've gotten most of your answers regarding the problem here. You don't want the pins to touch each other, if the right ones just so happens to connect you might take out your CPU, just as an example. If I were you I'd look for a new board instead of risking it, even if you for some reason decide to manually re-arrange the pins so they don't touch.

Boxes of DDR4 RAM? You should explain your problem as your original post tells is nothing so it's near impossible to help. Has your RAM gone bad? You mention that you've got boxes of it, replace what you've got in there to get your PC up and running again or buy new sticks.

I feel like it's worth mentioning that he states that adapting new generations from both Intel and AMD has had their own issues. However, he points out AMD's problems has been worse. But then again, I fully understand the desire to stay clear of a product you've had a bad experience with in the past for sure.

Gotcha, going to find one with cache then for sure. Thanks again! I noticed that the one I selected have way higher read / write than others with a similar amount of storage, however I haven't had the chance to take a proper look yet. Do you happen to know of good read / write speeds to have a look for. Without totally blowing the budget?

Thanks! Grabbed that other motherboard instead, didn't see that it had built-in wifi as that will come in handy as I'm unable to go wired for now. Which will also let me scrap my cheap wifi card. Just a few followup questions if you don't mind. As I've not been keeping up / paying much attention to PC parts in ages. As I've been looking around I've seen XMP come up everywhere, should I be bothered to enable this on my new system? Also what advantages do I get from having an SSD with a cache? Had a quick look around myself and it seems like my selected SSD does not have this. Having looked through a few benchmarks and all that I'm actually wondering how big of an upgrade going from my current i5 3750K to the Ryzen 7 3700X will be. You wouldn't be able to come up with some super rough number for that, would you? ?

Hi! I feel like it is long overdue for me to get some new parts added to my PC, as some of them are sitting on their 6th or 7th year at this point. One of the main reasons that I am upgrading is because of my 8 gigs of RAM, I'd like to get more, mainly for when I work with Photoshop and Illustrator. In addition to this the PC is also my gaming rig, for a while now I have felt like the RAM has been limiting the performance of my system in certain games and applications. Seeing as my motherboard is one of the oldest components at this time I'd like to replace it. When I'm first getting more RAM I'd rather not get old bricks. My current system: CPU: Intel Core i5 3750K @ 3.8GHz (OC'd to 4.2GHz) Cooler: Corsair H100i (The older square design one) GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GDT5 Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB DDR3 1600MHz (Two sticks) Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3 PSU: Corsair CX500 (500W) Planned upgrades: CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X Cooler: Included cooler Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz 8GB (Two sticks) Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-F Gaming, S-AM4 Storage: Corsair Force Series MP510 480GB M.2 SSD Concerns: 1. Unsure if which CPU to go for. Do I grab a R5 instead or keep the R7, or potentially even grab an i7 9700K if I shuffle my budget around? What I have listed under upgrades is as high as I'd like to go for now. I mainly play games with this PC so that's the main focus with some work on the said. Mainly Photoshop + Illustrator. 2. Regarding my choice of CPU. Should I say with AMD and a mobo with the X570 chipset at all due to PCIe 4.0 for future-proofing? As you might see I don't go around upgrading all that often. As an example I went from an 680Ti to the 970. Seeing as I'd like to upgrade now and Intel boards don't support PCIe 4.0 yet(?) 3. Cooler, if I run with AMD I'm most likely going to use the stock cooler. At the very least for now as my AIO is likely on it's fifth or so year by now. I've heard that's around their expected / recommended lifespan. I'd rather not have it stop working or worse. Going with Intel I also have to budget in a new cooler unless I keep going with my AIO. It's also super noisy, must be something going on but at this point I'm used to it anyways. 4. Quality of my PSU, mine is likely around 6 years old at this point. Bought a while after I got my initial desktop config. I have heard that there might be issues in terms of quality for these if the text is green on them? I have to open up and check tomorrow to make sure, though. It's also not modular at all. But from what I've gathered it shouldn't be much of a problem except potentially my final point. 5. 8-pin power supply to my selected motherboard. My current one is 4-pin, but I can add on to make it 8-pin. On the motherboard of my choice there's a 8-pin + 4-pin, and from what I have heard I might not be able to plug the 4-pin. But at the same time, from my understanding, I only need that if I'd like to do extreme overclocking, etc.