Hey people, first of all welcome all! I'm happy to finally signup for this forum and find many answers for my question before even opening any thread. I've been a Linustechtips subscriber for a long time now.
I'am building a PC for myself, and it's been a struggle. For a long time I've just sticked to laptops since I've been a truck driver in the last couple years.
Now I'm just driving locally and I'm home everyday so it's time to finally build my own ultimate desktop PC!
I've researched alot before making any decision and posting a thread here. I don't want to be the type of a guy that just waits for a ready setup. I want to set it up the way I want it and probably that's how all of you guys do it here.
Never been an Intel fan but I've always had Intels in my laptops, they did what i've expected but I always had AMD "in my heart" That's why I've decided to go with AMD and probably pick 3700x.
What will the computer be used for?
I'm not a crazy gamer, but I like to play from time to time, sometimes 2hrs during a week sometimes 8hrs on a weekend. I don't need huge FPS numbers, but I rather have the PC ready for the games I'll want to play in the future. The only game I need FPS is CS:GO, but i think this setup will handle it easily.
I'm trying myself in a lot of categories, I'm studying programming in python, couple years ago I was making 3d models in 3ds max... In a computer world, there is always something that's interesting me. (Trying to quit trucking and find a job that will give me more freedom - maybe a freelancer someday)
I planned to buy a PS4 PRO on the oncoming black friday. But I've plugged my laptop to my TV (75" 4k) and i was more than satisfied. I don't see a reason to buy a console anymore, I just need a better PC.
What i have:
Fractal Design Define R6 - This is a case that I've bought new for 30$ with damaged side panel, replaced it with a tempered glass one and now I'm a happy man with a 160$ case for 1/2 the price I want this exact model because it has a 5.25 slot for a DVD drive. Yes, my GTA 5 is on 7 damn DVD's....
Dell 27" 144hz monitor with G-sync - S2716DGB - This monior sucks, has alot of blur and strange colors @144hz but I'm not changing it for now. With my bad eyes i need to stay with 27" also.
I will maybe add one monitor 24" verticaly on a side for programming and maybe a second 27" as a secondary one. But that doesn't matter right now
Keyboard: Steelseries Apex M800
Mouse: Steelseries Sensei [RAW]
One word: flexible. I don't have money saved up just for the computer. I wont build a top tier computer but I want to build a future proof setup that I will be able to upgrade. That's why I am choosing parts like AM4 socket and motherboard with the x570 chipset, or 2x8gb ram instead of 4x4gb.
I'm trying to pick parts that are the best but don't have ridiculously high prices. Example: choosing 3700x over 3800x and definitely 3900x, but have the ability to upgrade someday in the future without changing the motherboard.
I can always save a couple more bucks and buy something better if it's really worth it.
The build I've made:
Case: Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C Blackout + added tempered glass panel
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700x
+ Arctic Silver 5 or just the MX-4 that i already have
Cooler if needed: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory - i thought about 3200... but the price difference isn't really that bad so why not? And hate me or not, but I really like the way they look. I'm just not sure which model will be the best for 3700x on x570....
- Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive - for software and games, I trust Samsung SSD products
- Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive - MORE GAMES (already have it, brand new, bought it for something else some time ago)
- Seagate BarraCuda 1tb 2.5" HDD 5400rpm - i just have it, i'll use it for some backup, old photos or seperate OS like linux
- I will probably buy at least one 4tb 3.5 drive for storage
Video card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card - read below...
Aaaand here is the problem that i have... Why buy a 2070 if a GTX 1080ti is basically for the same price (used) with more memory and better performance? I've watched alot of reviews, videos comparing those two and i just don't know...
I will not spend money for a RTX 2080ti... I would like to but it's just too much $$ now. Ray-Tracing is a cool feature of RTX and i believe there will be more optimization from both Nvidia and game developers. Also I'm not sure but the 3700x might be a bit of a bottleneck for RTX 2080ti but i don't know.
After watching the reviews of RTX 2070 seems that the Ray-Tracing is basically useless... On the other side, alot of GTX 1080ti's that are for sale on ebay are probably thrown out from mining rigs and should be just thrown away instead they're selling them on ebay as "rarely used only for gaming minecraft and Most Wanted"
So I just don't know and i count on your advice here, I'd like to spend around 500$ for a GPU, if there is a nice improvement maybe it's worth to get the RTX 2080? or 2080 Super?
2070 - 430$
2070 Super - 500$ (+70$)
1080ti (used) - 520$ - (+90$) - see my point?
2080 - 600$ (+170$)
2080 Super - 700$ (+270$)
2080ti - 1000$ (+570$) - no way!
In conclusion - That is why I have a huge problem choosing between 1080ti and the 2070/2070 Super. And maybe I could even save up and spend some more for the 2080 but there is so many variables already here that I'm just going crazy and I got completely no idea if it's worth the money. (Maybe buy a 2070 and just upgrade later hoping the prices drop?)
Power supply - EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3, 80 Plus Gold 750W, Fully Modular - That's what the PSU Calculator recommended, and I hope it will handle future upgrades of GPU, CPU and water cooling. Right?
If someone has a different opinion about choosing AMD over Intel, I am open for a discussion, that's the reason I'm opening this thread. My research time is over, it is a time for a discussion now
Also I have a question that i cant find the answer for...
The fractal design case offers 2x USB 2.0, 2x USB 3.0 and one usb type C in the front. The connector would connect to the motherboard listed above (ASUS TUF x570), the manual states that the motherboard connector is for 4x USB 2.0 ports (I am not sure about that). How will the front panel work then? Will I only have 2x USB 2.0? Or the 3.0 will work as 2.0? What about Type-C?
I'am sorry if the whole thing is too long, I am trying to explain everything in the most clear way I can. Also typing just "hey check my build, is it ok?" would feel like I just don't care and look for a quick answer, which is not true. I am open for discussion for any part that I've chosen above. This is gonna be my dream build so I just want to make everything perfect.
I have read all the highlited threads above about posting a new thread, I've used the pcpartpicker.com site to setup the build, and Amazon. Links:
PCPartPicker Part List
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor
$327.79 @ OutletPC
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
$34.89 @ OutletPC
Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste
$6.15 @ Amazon
Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
$195.89 @ OutletPC
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory
$114.99 @ Newegg
Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
$64.89 @ OutletPC
Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
$169.99 @ B&H
Fractal Design Design Define R6 USB-C Blackout ATX Mid Tower Case
$158.60 @ Walmart
EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
$110.00 @ Amazon
Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
$19.79 @ OutletPC
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
$99.89 @ OutletPC
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