Otto_iii

Get the 3600 not the 3600x, the difference between them is like 2-4% in most games or applications, you are basically paying $50, or 125% more for a better stock cooler and the letter X in the name. Otherwise yes, its a great chip atleast in the 3600 form and is being widely hailed as the performance for price bargain of the summer, completely unmatched outside of picking up a good deal on a used CPU. Put the extra $50 on low latency ram or a future GPU upgrade

I think doing the experiment is best idea but assuming CPU isn't getting hot atm it should be a good trade-off, you never stated relative temps for CPU but id assume 65C or so? Have you done anything with fan speeds at all?

Never had chance to work with a computer like that, but have you tried locking tasks to certain cores with something like Process Lasso or Windows Affinity? friend was raving about it for their 3700x (for Battlefield 1 performance) and i'd assume it could help with that, idea it locking programs to cores so you don't run into inefficiencies with windows scheduling without having to do something lame like turning SMT off etc. Thats all speculative though on my part, just seemed maybe could be relevant. What are you using to record or encode? Could always start with that.

Been done by multiple people, or even worse situations on worse boards, and no problems with that combo. Hardware Unboxed got a 3900x running on a way older, worse board, albeit really hot if ran at anything but stock. and Wendell (guest on EposVox/host on Level1techs) swears by the specifically for the 3900x, 3700x easily. Then this Toasty guy (dono him) specifically did the combo you are asking about. Basically you'll be more then fine, have at it.

I am computer dumby but isn't the issue there that some of the older AM4 supporting boards have a smaller BIOS chip so they get all picky about updating in one go, as there isn't enough room to instantly update everything at once?

What would you do though if you were trying to cool it in a well ventilated ITX case where neither something like a Noctua NH-D15 or Dark Rock 4, or a 360mm aio would fit? (like a Ncase M1 or QBX Kaze etc) My instinct tells me a good closed loop 240 with upgraded fans is probably safest bet? I'm more of a aircoooler guy myself but i don't know if something like a Noctua U9S which would fit could keep up as well with a 3900x in comparison to a decent 240mm aio

Sorry about that new here, if a mod wants to delete the thread thats fine with me, ill chuck one up over there later.

So i have always been a bigger proponent of Frame rates over looks, i grew up just early enough to start out on CRTs and even if the frames were low back in the 90s the smoothness and fluidity sticks in my memory. While watching all the new Benchmarks i kept thinking "How would this all turn out if every game was ran at 1080p to 1440p, but with lowest or near lowest settings." Specifically more important then top frame-rate is keeping minimum frame-times as high as possible, as the fluxuation of frame-times warping effect is more of a immersion breaker to me then say low textures, model detail etc. My presumption is such build would likely be reliant on the CPU rather then GPU but thought i should ask more knowledgeable folks. Theoretically I'd be interested in builds at about 700-800$ price point, and also high end builds closer to 1200-1400$ish. This is cost not including the Monitor or any peripherals! For sake of this build though lets say said system is being built for a 240hz monitor, smoothest gameplay possible, albeit on moderate resolution and low detail settings, with a keen eye on keeping 1% lows as high as possible/frametime as consistent as possible. My basic thought was a $700-800 Build would be Midrange Ryzen 3 AMD CPU, $1200-1400 would likely be Top end Intel CPU Im not planning on upgrading at the moment, this is more of a fun theoretical, but due to the price war thats happening with AMD, Intel, and Nvidea, ive been thinking a lot about this but haven't really seen benchmarks showing results with very low detail in wide array of games. I'm currently a budget gamer on a $200 Viewsonic 24" 144hz monitor, a $200 used Dell Optiplex (i3-3570 duel channel 8gb 1600hz DDR3), with a 200ish$ 1050ti+PSU. It holds me over pretty well, playing older or better optimized titles at 120-160FPS, stuff like Apex and PUBG at 60-110fps. As you can probably guess from my current build i spent about $200 leftover money every month or so to buy a new item, but now that i finally have a passable gaming rig im wondering about the next step if i saved up spare cash for a few months.