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This may go into personal opinion, but i consider PBO(+Auto OC) far, far, very far, inferior to manual OC, it always, almost always atleast, runs way hotter, without any benefit vs manual OC If you want a OC do as Anthony suggested in LTT video from awhile ago, use Ryzen Master and find Per-CCD overclocks for each bank of the CPU, i'd recommend 1.325V because its safe but will work easily, likewise if you can repeatedly run Cinebench R20 with any OC, it will likely, in my experience, work longterm in more demanding stress tests, so its easy to find mhz that works. After you find OC in Ryzen Master, feel free to apply it in BIOS At the very least look into negative voltage offset(with PBO) if its a option with your mobo/bios, so far as OC is concerned. But honestly PBO is dumb and for silly ppl who vape too hard

dono, but 3950x was binned so much better then 3900x it often had same or better temps Simple fix may be installing the bios you have, or one newer then what it is, from the factory there occasionally are weird/bad configurations, and yeah we could fix it by going through all the settings (boooring), but just reinstalling whatever the version it is will do that, and its quicker, and we all have more time to think about how the new Taco Bell Double Stacked Tacos are selling for only $1 when their normal tacos go for 1.59$, wow what a deal.

this is the question i ask myself everytime i think about myself and a nice girl luckily with hardware i get rejected less often

This, if need be substitute GPU with used 1070 to reduce cost 100-150$ total cost (usually like 200$), not as good as paired with say a flashed $300-350 5700, or 400$ 5700XT like in video, but will still be perfectly acceptable for current games, likely capable for near future, on a budget. If PSU, DRAM, and Case is included, carried over from current system, then likely total cost is about 350$ plz just watch video in whole before judging, i'd easily rate this as my favorite "budget gaming" video of the year. I will happily repost it 1 million times till somebody builds it. It must be done. Its like the 4000$ 600hp Mid-engine Chevy Corvair (with corrected suspension setup ofc, ez) of gaming, keeping up with 80-200k supercars. Eat world beaters for the price of a expensive lunch. Seriously, good luck trying to beat that. Links for mobo don't work from said video, but you can still find same mobo on ali, just by different vendor/listing

So far as single slot goes, there is the GTX 1070 Katana, but sadly they go for similar price to far superior cards, waste of dosh when the zombies come, you'll have wished you saved your coin, had cash for that Stoner M63

1030 is literally only useful for "i need a HDMI port for my better monitor" it is in no way a gaming gpu. The RX570 is like a million times superior and often costs nearly the same if buying new.

i'd remove the Hynix, in exactly 0 situations do you need more then 16gb for gaming, we aren't even near breaching that threshold yet so likely won't be for a long long while. Say you didn't do this though, you could run based off the best timings & speed the Hynix ram could perform, but its likely not worth it, at all, and won't be anytime soon. Games don't use that much ram, they just use enough 8gb isn't always feasible, as in like 8.5-9.5gb, including multiple backround tasks many people leave (but shouldn't) open in backround. Here is some examples of best of, manual tuning https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dsu9K1Nt_7apHBdiy0MWVPcYjf6nOlr9CtkkfN78tSo/edit#gid=527992713 Likewise if you want to use Ryzen Dram Calculator, and use Hynix setting (or B-die if you remove the hynix), make sure not to skip step where you set it to nanoseconds and export to full HTML, import it into XMP for the calulator, everybody misses that step, the calculator likely won't work correctly at all without that. Quick, timestamped example since lots of people miss this step, then are like rabble rabble rabble, WHY RYZEN DRAM CALCULATOR NO WORK, rabble rabble

There is only one for best budget options, and its the Gigabyte Z390 UD, the rest near same price stink, very badly 170$+ model is after this, but thought i'd mention it because best cheap options are always cooler imo TBH though if you could pick up a used 6700k, you could likely be okay with parts you already have (for gaming in next few years), just saying its a option. They don't score the highest frame average, but frame-time consistency is very good (less stuttering etc, arguably more important, but not vs 9900k, it and 9700k are superb at gaming), and likewise if you go AMD then you can get Zen 3 and Ryzen 4000 next year on same motherboard you would buy for Ryzen 3000 now, which may eclipse current intels, but likely feature more cores per$. I don't think the 9900k will suck anytime soon though, if you choose to go that route.

too many, i need to get a job at like a bestbuy or something tbhq

absolutely fine

Probably favorite video in awhile. I like that when they feature females into this introverted sausage-fest space that is PC hardware and software, its always ones who either genuinely care about it, or atleast have great personality. Many examples of pandering exist, none of them here have been one. That said i would love to see a editing showdown that was less hardware/software based, more a comparison between between youtube gaming comedians like vidjeagamedunkey, or some crazy like Aztrosist, or one of the various other silly Gaming ppl on youtube

just go to your motherboards official website, look under utilities and likely there will be a light-weight RGB software utility there, that is the best option.

What motherboard do you have? Check the website for it, there should be a utility to control all the RGB and LED connected to the board Other software to change RGB is usually bloatware (bad for game performance, legitimately, stuff like CAM and iCue are awful in this regard) just use the basic motherboard tools even if they look less flashy. Likewise, occasionally there it can be set in BIOS, but i've had on/off luck with this.

The Ripjaw 3600C16 i linked are Micron-E Die, i remember another member from UK finding them on some tech website but can't find them via pcpartpicker UK Search Module F4-3600C16D-16GVKC How bad is international shipping from newegg to UK? Price is like 3 pounds lower then those Viper 3200C16 if shipping isn't a issue.

Ya it will cool it great, assuming case aiflow is relatively balanced. Funfact the x62 actually fits in NZXT's ITX case (somewhat large case for small form factor, but still ITX), but isn't advertised to do so I'd be amazed if you had fitment issues, but you might have to get creative with your mATX case, probably won't be able to fit all the drive bays obviously, but definitely should be possible. Its officially supported atleast I would highly consider buying the best quality 140mm pwm rear exhaust fan for your case though, so its not too positive-airflow baised, Noctua etc. such a situation can create a hotbox with a AIO in particular, usually you want nearly as much air going out as going in, especially with a AIO where the air going in is being heated up, if you used stock 120mm case fan at rear it could get rather toasty after a little while. Ideally get something like this, or atleast this (i'd prefer having option to go above 1500rpm personally, even if stuck with brown rubber tabs) Likewise, IF ambient temps don't get too high inside the case, you could flip the PSU and use it as a extra exhaust fan, but ONLY if you do not install the PSU shroud, absolutely DO NOT do this if you install the PSU shroud, for obvious reasons. But likely 1x strong 140mm exhaust fan should be enough, just mentioning this incase you wish to play around/experiment with optimal aiflow setup.

Any of these MSI MAX Boards, make sure "MAX" is in name when you purchase it or it likely won't boot with 3000 series processor. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-GAMING-PLUS-MAX https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-A-PRO-MAX Just make sure its a MAX board, i'd recommend either of these two ram kits for a Ryzen 3000 system. (New Egg ships internationally, or likewise search module id on your own UK websites) https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880?Description=ripjaws 3600&cm_re=ripjaws_3600-_-20-232-880-_-Product (Better timings, on very rare occasions worse compatibility) https://www.newegg.com/oloy-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821167?Description=oloy 3600&cm_re=oloy_3600-_-20-821-167-_-Product https://www.newegg.com/oloy-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821145?Description=oloy 3600&cm_re=oloy_3600-_-20-821-145-_-Product (Black or Red, with RGB, slightly worse timings more solid compatibility)

They fathom it, backround tasks run whether you ask them to or not sadly, its just a normal Win10 thing. Here check out end of this, i time-stamped it for you (17:25) where he comments on all this. This is from over a year ago, its only gotten worse since then in regards to newer games.

You would be fine for now, but the fact games are ALL moving towards using more then 6 threads, on account of next gen consoles thus game development all moving in that direction, its wise to look elsewhere, not the 9600k if you are trying to keep the system for 3-5 years. Unless you expect to just stay with those games for the next 5 years, its kind of a stinky choice. If you could throw another 80$ onto the processor, live near a Microcenter (or buy used on ebay), then getting a 280-300$ 8700k and same Gigabyte z390 UD motherboard i mentioned earlier will likely do you well for next 4-5 years, but the 6t 9600k is probably gonna have a lot of hitching/stuttering in the most recent, and upcoming few years worth of titles. Increases in clockspeed died off a few years ago, knowing this developers are finally starting to actually make use of more cores+threads in their game engines, its the only way forward for further optimization.

Do you run low detail high FPS, or high detail low FPS settings in your games? In low detail, competitive type style, the 9600k does pull ahead in most games, in more GPU bound situations they aren't different at all. I'd say if you got mobo that can overclock 9600k, its not horrible idea. The only cheaper z390 board i know that is good for that task is the 100$ Gigabyte Z390 UD. With Ryzen and mobos you are likely looking at MSI MAX boards, the B450 series Tomahawk MAX, Gaming Plus MAX, of A-Pro MAX all at similar price range. The reason everybody would urge you to get Ryzen is because there aren't any future upgrades you could get for Z390 that aren't already out now, with the Intel you could eventually swap a 9990k or 9700k into it, but with Ryzen the next generation of CPUs, Zen 3/Ryzen 4000 Desktop processors will still work with same said motherboards. Ontop of this Intel keeps losing performance due to security flaws in their designs, with patches correcting it hurting performance. You can fix this by disabling the security updates via regedits in cmd, and its perfectly fine to do so with a personal computer as the security updates are only really a big deal for office PCs and Servers connected via a network, but it still kinda stinky. The final factor is although none-hyperthreaded CPUs (same threads as there are cores) can be good for gaming, with the next gen consoles coming out with 8 core/16 thread CPUs, games are already starting to, and going to continue to be developed for more cores and more threads, likely atleast 8-16 threads, not 6 threads like the 9600k is. When that happens you'll see stuttering in games which are poorly optimized for >8 threads, In this regard the 8700k will likely age better then the 9600k.

The power delivery,VRMs, is very insufficient. Like worst thing? After running PC at load for awhile one of the VRMs goes "poof", literally blow up. This shouldn't kill other components but will kill the board. It really isn't recommended for use with a 8-core

These sort of videos are sometimes ridiculous, but funny, and occasionally practical or atleast hint towards things that could be practical. Thanks for this.

There are plenty of people running 5.2ghz on it, just have to be lucky with silicon lottery

You could try booting with a super cheap a320, but i wouldnt run it on that board, now im less sure. The pins are completely broken off? not bent but completely sheared off, correct? If they are just bent that can be fixed fairly reliably on most Ryzen CPUs, with care and the right tools (really tiny flat head screw driver.) TechYesCity recently did a video on that, but i'm assuming it won't apply as you genuinely meant 'broken off'

Define "under load" 75-80C under maximum load is perfectly safe.

Ya sadly, for whatever reason, i don't believe any mobo maker is pushing "Ryzen 3000 Ready" ITX boards. Possibly just because its a more niche market, or likewise cause they want to sell the x570 ones ? To the credit of the new x570 ITX boards, all of them have insanely good VRMs, in some cases better then similarly priced (200-240$) ATX boards, but they're still 200+$, so this puts people on a budget but buying newest gen for ITX builds in a odd spot. Personally i would of liked to try to have gone for ITX if not for this, Cougar KAZE build or something similar would of been fun.