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I was Googling around if anyone had asked a simple question, a laptop with 4 slots for nVME storage, as I was looking to replace my Dell Alienware M17x R4 with its 1 x mSSD and 3 x SATA drives I use for 14TB mass storage, instead I stumble upon this thread with bunch of worthless replies to a perfectly logical question with a bunch of self-important people who seem to have nothing better to do in their life. There several reasons why a laptop with 4 storage devices is needed: Mobility – job reasons, natural disasters, war etc RAID configurations for professional work Portable media centre Mass storage of games for poor internet infrastructure areas Portable editing rig for RAW video workflow Portable server The only laptops I could find that fits these requirement while being comparably modern, are: HP Zbook Fury 17 G7 – 10th & 11th gen Intel options (3kg) 2 x M.2 2280 nVME slots + 2.5 Inch SATA or 2 x M.2 2280 nVME slots if using bracket HP Zbook Fury 15 G7 – 10th gen Intel (2.5kg) 2 x M.2 2280 nVME slots + 2.5 Inch SATA or 2 x M.2 2280 nVME slots if using bracket HP Zbook Fury 15 G8 – 11th gen Intel (2.5kg) 2 x M.2 2280 nVME slots + 2.5 Inch SATA or 2 x M.2 2280 nVME slots if using bracket HP Zbook Fury 16 G9 – 12th gen Intel (2.5kg) 4 x M.2 2280 nVME slots MSI Titan GT77 – 12th gen Intel (3.3kg) 2 x M.2 2280 nVME slots + 2 x M.2 2280 nVME/SATA slots (4 in total) Clevo X170KM-G – 11th gen Intel desktop replacement (4.7kg) 4 x M.2 2280 nVME slots Asus ROG Strix SCAR 17 G732 - 10th gen intel (2.9kg) 3 x M.2 2280 nVME slots + 1 x 2.5” SATA (combined 3 x 4TB nVME + 8TB SSD SATA possible) Dell Precision 7730 – 8th gen Intel (cheapest option here) (3.4kg) 4 x M.2 2280 nVME slots or 1 x 2.5” SATA with 65Wh battery option loose 1 x M.2 2280 nVME slot. There some laptops with 3 x nVME slots and also a 1 x SATA slot, these are extremely time consuming to search for since absolutely no website seem to track storage options in laptops anymore, and worse yet there even more laptops with 2 x nVME slots and 1 x SATA slot in which you can acquire a 2.5” adapter which gives you two M.2 SATA slots allowing you to run M.2 SATA drives or nVME at SATA speeds but in this case it would be better to just get 8TB SSD SATA instead of wasting it on an adapter.

Price to performance, AMD is arguably no argument today, you get far more performance, cores and security over anything Intel can provide not to mention far less power consumption and heat. If I were you I would consider AMD and get rid of the brand attitude, at the end of the day they want your money and then some. You should pick what performs best accordingly to price.

I have a Raven Ridge RVZ03 desktop case, a very compact and small ITX case, as of now I have no less than 12 fans in there, 3 x 120mm Noctua fans, 4 x 40mm fans and 5 x 80mm fans to pull and draw air in as good as possible, the 3 x 120mm fans pulls air in while the 4 x 40mm and 5 x 80mm draws the air out. The case has been modified slightly to allow for installation of all these fans, the noise level is no more than usual. However it is in my mind that after running this setup I have acceptable temperatures of an overclocked system but I always beg the question in my mind would a water cooling solution be better? My specifications are: Ryzen 7 1700 3.9GHz Vega 56 1.725GHz I like the case a lot, I have no foreseeable plans to replace it and my next upgrade will most likely involve component swap instead. As I see it currently, I have space for no more than one 120mm radiator, and one 240mm radiator which will require a custom loop duo to the case being so small and will require additional modifications. However I am unsure if I will see any beneficial decrease in temperature with a water cooling over an air cooling, there is the added level of maintenance however the space inside is limited, would a water cooling solution perhaps be a better solution for a smaller case with limited space for air heatsinks? The one thing I could definitely see improving a lot is my Vega 56 and its VRM temperatures which would all be under the water block.

Its no denying Vega 56 is a very hot card both in performance and in temperature.After all it will easily do 300W and even 400W with mods.I was one of the few morons who bought this card brand new at MSRP on release day with the infamous blower fan that AMD likes to use.As expected, the card had horrendous cooling, reaching easily 95 degrees and throttling, and its VRM doing 110 at times with core hot spots up in 120s.This kind of cooling is unacceptable, so 4 months ago I decided that I should get a Morpheus II because I had enough with the fan spinning at deafening 7000RPM which yes for those of you its LOUDER than the R9 290 reference card.When I got the Morpheus II, I had good core temps but I noticed one major problem, the VRM was not getting cooled properly, infuriated by the poor design choice from the manufacturer of this heatsink to exclude PROPER VRM cooling, (this may offend some) I cut apart the reference shroud because I hated it with passion, seeing how its aluminium I did it all with a hand saw and some files.As one would expect, I not only got superior VRM temps of 70 to 90 degrees vastly better than the 135 it would do with the ****ty heatsinks provided in the package.According to 3DMark, a regular stock Vega 56 should do 20 528 FireStrike score.Mine however does 23 124 its of course no ground breaker but what is interesting are the temperatures allowing me to do 1705MHz stable on the core and 1100MHz on the memory with acceptable temperatures that will reach 80 in high demanding tasks, however its noted that in 3DMarks own tests the RTX 2070 in FireStrike does 22 593 which is very good obviously either GPU's will differ and because Vega are off a different design school the 2070 will perform better in most games.With a bit time on hand and some really basic cavement tool skills, its possible for anyone to do this, manual tools is all needed, no machine tools yes I am a bit sceptical wielding power tools with no protection, nothing to fasten what I am cutting properly better to do it manually in this case its also more economical.Because early Vega 56 do not have have the mold on the chip I was forced to use a thermal pad in this case the Carbonaut, I heard better stuff with the IC diamond pad but Carbonaut should perform superior with good mounting pressure.

They blow surprising amount of air for their size, you can definitely feel them very well, it also helps on the VRM a bit on the motherboard, noticed a positive temp drop on the VRM with them installed as hot air would accumulate near the CPU heatsink.

EDIT: Updated original post by adding pictures I forgot to.

Sure, when I get the rest of my 80mm fans I will take a picture of it. I tried looking for pictures of similar setups, could not find any oddly enough, seems to me not a lot of people tries to experiment with airflow in small desktop cases, in the laptop community its commonplace for enthusiasts to modify even add extra fans to the cooling system.

Something I see a lot of when people build small ITX PC's and cram really high end hardware in them, they only utilise the fan locations the manufacturer put but ignore the possibility of installing smaller fans such as 40mm or 80mm in places the manufacturer only intended as air intakes and outlets.Big issue with small ITX desktop builds is getting the hot air out quick enough which accumulates and heats up every component because of the tight space, as an owner of the Silverstone Raven Ridge RVZ03 I decided to experiment and it turns out, yes its genuinely useful to install tiny fans. Currently I only managed to acquire 3 x 40mm fans and 1 x 80mm for testing purposes.The fans I use are the following.40mm - Noctua NF-A4x20 FLX80mm - AKASA Slimfan AK-FN076 PWM You might have trouble connecting this many fans to PWM connector on your MOAB but using a cable such as FLEXA FP3S or FLEXA FP5S to connect multiple same type fans to one header and power them off eSATA.In my current testing I dropped a 10 degree off my Ryzen 7 1700 which runs at 1.375 volts and 3.9GHz but would easily reach 90 degrees without these fans and now sits at 80 degrees will eventually reach 87 because there just not enough fans to pull out the hot air from the 120mm 3000RPM CPU intake fan spinning at full speed.So while the Raven Ridge RVZ03 can only utilise 3 x 120mm fans it is fully possible to install 4 x 40mm fans which do push air really nicely (No I am not joking its also very quiet at 5000RPM) and there possibility of 3 or 4 x 80mm fans, there some issues with the power cable that might interfere.All you need to fasten these fans with is simple zip ties, I ran two through my fans and connected them on the other end, they are stuck pretty good and you can get them to line up very accurate, if you have an ITX build and want better air cooling, measure and test it out yourself. 19.10.23 EDIT: Added pictures cause I forgot to.