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JDCosta

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  1. First of all, thanks for answering, @Jurrunio and @LukeSavenije. As for Jurrunio's points, good call on the "Out-of-the-Box" compatibility with Zen2. In hindsight it makes total sense, but I was not considering it. If I decide to go for R7 3xxx, I'll probably have to buy the CPU and the MB on the same store, in order to ask them to set it up (Bios update and whatnot)...May not be a big problem, but it will remove some flexibility... As for your other point, regarding maxing the 8-core...Is the MB that robust? And (with proper temperature control) you are saying that a 12-core R9 (probably at stock/automatic OC's) might be a future upgrade possibility?! On a (relatively)low price B450 motherboard Why isn't MSI making a bigger noise on this little motherboard? And this leads on to @LukeSavenije answer. Being on a mobile connection I haven't seen the youtube link you kindly included, yet. I'll watch it later today, taking in consideration your lead to be particularly attentive around 23:37, because, so far it looks to good to be true ...It may also hold the answer to another doubt regarding RAM speeds/OC and whether something above CL14/3200 would make sense on this MB... Once again thanks for taking the time to answer a newbie/long-time lurker, who hasn't built a AMD based system since Athlon was a thing... I also apologize for any spelling mistakes, as English is not my native language (and my work laptop's OS is in my native Portuguese). Best Regards JDCosta
  2. Hello, I'm currently looking for a new Motherboard, for my upcoming upgrade (Ryzen R7 eight core 2nd or 3rd gen). As I don't need neither PCIE 4.0, MultiGPU, nor aggressive manual OC capabilities, capacity, the new X570 boards seem to be to expensive to my needs. However, after looking at the table in the first page, I found the MSI B450 mini-ITX Gaming Plus AC, which appears to have (at least on paper) enough power capacity to handle a 8 core with ease (and if the 6+2 phases are any good maybe even a future 12 core at stock speeds. As this particular MB can be found (without much effort and on physical stores) at around 100-120 €, (much cheaper than many 4+2 X470's ATX) where I live, I'm finding this to good to be true...So...What's the catch with this particular MB? I mean the 2 RAM slots instead of 4 are to be expected, due to the size (and honestly, 32 Gb are more than enough for me), but am I missing something? Online search is somewhat unhelpful, as I'm finding that not a lot of people bother with mini-ITX boards. Will this melt with an 8-core R7 2xxx/3xxx, when using the standard automatic OC's, or are there any other issues that I'm missing? Sorry for the text wall, and thanks JDCosta TLDR: Using MSI B450 mini-ITX Gaming Plus AC. 6+2 phases for about 120 €, for Ryzen R7 2xxx/3xxx? Where is the Catch?
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