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I see the Gamdias Astrape P1 is listed, but what about the Gamdias Kratos? I'm curious about this unit as it seems Newegg uses this particular unit in many of their ABS systems. Also, Gamdias units were listed under the lowest tier previously, which said just don't buy, so it's pretty concerning to me when such a huge change occurs...especially a jump from the worst tier to one of the best...

@greeatzy I had no idea the NH-D15 came in black now...that's awesome! What do you guys think of this build? PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero (Wi-Fi) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($238.28 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($299.99 @ Newegg) Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($147.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Black 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($174.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1576.22 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-09 00:59 EST-0500 There's a few more things I still haven't decided: PSU - The one I have listed above is just a placeholder, as I'm not sure exactly what wattage I should get yet. I'd love some more help choosing one that's easy to use, at least tier A on the PSU tier list, and at least 80+ Gold. Case Fans - Which ones should I use? I plan on placing a fan in every available spot in the case (except the bottom spot, if not needed?). 140mm or 120mm in top and front? Will I need any fan hubs or splitters? Should I do RGB fans or just go for performance? Thermal Paste - What should I use? I read that Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut (https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Carbonaut-38-0-2/dp/B07PHLJYWK/) performs as well as quality thermal paste and I'd prefer it honestly, as I'm not great at judging how much thermal paste to use. There's also the IC Graphite Thermal Pad, which I've used multiple times and seems to do well (https://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Cooling-Graphite-Thermal-Pad/dp/B07CK9SHZG/). Any ideas? Thank you!

Thank you! I'm still looking for builds and suggestions. Thanks so much!

@agent2 I've watched Buildzoid, and honestly there's no reason to get X570 if you're not going to be using PCIe 4.0, or for tech enthusiasts (which I am, but I still don't see a need for anything faster than the NVMe drives we already have yet). The 2080 Ti uses half the bandwidth of PCIe 3.0. I truly believe that AMD rushed out this new standard in order to make Ryzen 3 look more flashy. Don't get me wrong, the new CPUs are amazing and I'll probably end up going with one, but I'd be more comfortable buying the X570 standard once it's been out longer and becomes more efficient so a fan is no longer required. I tried the X570 Taichi, and that board was literally running at almost 80C. My current board runs at less than 30... The hotter something runs, the less its lifespan. Not to mention that the hot air exhausted by the GPU goes right onto the chipset fan, even on most high end boards. I'd rather not risk it. It seems like a bad design choice. Furthermore, I'd never need so many PCIe lanes, as I don't even plan on running SLI or any card other than a GPU. I'd rather save money on a quality X470 board like Buildzoid suggests. I hope I'm not coming off as rude, but I'm just explaining my thinking on it all. I'm really not sure what GPU to get yet. Nvidia still kills it (currently) in the GPU department, but the Red Devil has an awesome price that would save me over $300 on a 2080 Super, and removing the blower style cooler makes it even more attractive. That was just a bad choice on AMD's part. I don't really know the difference between CUDA and OpenCL. I've always just looked at benchmarks and price to decide on parts. Mostly I just want a capable card capable of playing most things on max with 60+ frames (ideally 144, but I realize not all games support it or can be even with a 2080 Ti, like Metro Exodus for example), but not as expensive as the 2080 Ti. Sorry for the long reply, and thanks for reading! Thanks for any and all builds and ideas, and thank you for taking the time to give some advice! Edit: Here's a link to the Buildzoid video for anyone interested or thinking of using Ryzen 3:

I'm still looking for build ideas. Thanks a lot everyone

Thanks for the reply I forgot to mention that I would prefer to use an x470 board in the case of AMD as I really have no need for x570 and I'd rather have something that doesn't run so hot!

1. Budget & Location $2,000-$2,500, USA. 2. Aim Heavy gaming (all types) and multitasking. Possibly other things like game design, coding, writing, music creation, and maybe editing. I know I at least want 32GB of RAM as I have run out of 16GB on many occasions. Whatever speed and latency is best for the CPU chosen. For the CPU, I was thinking the 3700X, 3900X, or the 9900K (maybe even the new 9900KS, but I'm unsure how well it's doing as it just came out today). For the GPU, I was thinking at least a 2070 or 2080 Super or 5700 XT (I heard the "Red Devil" is amazing). However, I don't mind if the card is Nvidia or AMD, as long as it performs great and has a good cooler. The page I linked below has been infinitely helpful with this. I'd ideally like a 1TB SSD and 4TB HDD. If you guys don't think I should go with NVMe, a regular SSD is fine. Also, I would like to use a very good CPU cooler and motherboard (also linked below), but I do not plan on doing any overclocking. I just want to max out Turbo/Precision Boost. I want to use at least an 80+ Gold PSU. Lastly, I'd also really appreciate some recommendations on some good case fans! 3. Monitors One 1080P 144Hz. Already purchased. 4. Peripherals No. Windows already purchased. 5. Why are you upgrading? Current system is about 6 years old and it's time for an upgrade. 6. Extra Information I tried purchasing a system from NZXT's BLD service, but I was not impressed. The motherboard had a bunch of errors upon receiving the computer, and NZXT acted like nothing was wrong and literally told me it was "normal". I spent $2,600 on it. And upon looking up the codes, most were related to PCIe and CPU issues. I wasn't taking that chance, especially when it was so expensive and they seemed to be trying to lie about hardware problems. So, now I'm back to building my own computer after having issues twice in a row. First from trying to build one, and now from NZXT. As always, I appreciate the help and I look forward to seeing what awesome builds you guys have! GPU Coolers Tier List: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1046174-graphics-card-coolingvrm-tier-list-navi-update/ Motherboard Tier List: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1046357-motherboard-tier-list-x570-update/ CPU Cooler Tier List: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/ PSU Tier List: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-30/ Thanks!

The only other thing I'm wondering is whether Precision Boost (not PBO, because I don't plan on using it as it voids warranty) is throttled by using a cheaper motherboard or not. If so, I'd rather get a more expensive board to hit the max boost clock and performance possible. Has anyone tested this? Does it matter to any noticeable degree? Thanks!

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the replies

@xg32 Any recommendations for which board? Also, is the X72 overkill for a 3700X? Thanks guys! Edit: Oh, and would 3 120mm or 2 140mm fans be better as intake?

I'm thinking of using NZXT's BLD service to buy a new prebuilt computer, and I was wondering what the best motherboard choices would be for the 9900K and the 3700X. I don't plan on overclocking, as I don't want to void any warranties by doing so or break anything. Mostly I'm concerned about the motherboard not throttling the CPU in any way from boosting. I plan on using the H710 case, a Kraken X72 (360mm) on top with 3x120mm fans in front and 1x140mm fan in back, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super - MSI Gaming X Trio, NZXT E850 Gold Digital PSU (I'd do 750W but the Supernova G3s aren't that good according to the tier list, and the others are either too high, too low, or low quality), and G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 3200MHz (CL16 I believe). For Intel, they have: -ASRock Z390 Pro4 -ASRock Z390M-ITX/ac Mini ITX -MSI MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC -MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON AC -ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero (Wi-Fi) And for AMD: -ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F -ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC -MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI -ASRock X570 TAICHI WIFI -ASUS ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) If none of the above motherboards are good enough for a 9900K, would any be good enough for the 9700K? Or should I get a 3700X regardless? They don't offer the 3900X or I would probably choose it over anything honestly... And remember, I'm not going to be overclocking. Thanks as always!

Any ideas guys? Anything capable of 1080P 144Hz with at least a 9700K/3700X, 2070 Super/5700 XT, 32GB RAM, and a trusted build or service?

@Fakmykak Thanks for the detailed reply. I have no problem going with AMD parts. In either case, I'm just not sure which prebuilt to choose. There are so many options and factors and I just want to make sure it'll be a quality build without spending too much. Are there any good AMD prebuilts you'd recommend? If anyone has ideas, please feel free to share, as it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

@Fakmykak I'm not sure what to spend. I'd rather spend no more than $2,000, but if it means I don't sacrifice quality parts, I'd spend more. As for the RAM, I've run out on multiple occasions at 16. That's why I want to do 32 (but also for future-proofing). The RAM is the only thing I'm sure on right now. I listed the Intel CPUs because it seems that they are still the best choice for gaming, the 9900K still beating out the 3900X on UserBenchmark (https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-3900X/4028vs4044) and $100 cheaper. The 2070 Super also seems to pull more frames than the 5700 XT more often than not. When you get into the realm of the 2080/Super/Ti, there's no contest at all. I just want a quality prebuilt machine that isn't ridiculously overpriced...

Hello! I'm looking for a quality prebuilt gaming desktop. I already have a new screen which is 1080P 144Hz from a previous build failing. All I really know is I want 32GB of RAM for multitasking and future-proofing. For the CPU, I was thinking about using a 9700K or 9900K if I went with Intel, or a 3700X, 3800X, or 3900X from AMD. As for the GPU, I was thinking either the 2070 Super (or possibly the 2080), or the 5700 XT. I've posted about this before, but honestly I could never come to a decision and didn't get many replies. There are so many options it's overwhelming. And if I spend a good amount of money on a prebuilt (around $1,500-$3,000 max), I want to make sure it lasts a while. Please feel free to leave suggestions even if they aren't something I've listed, as I'm not the greatest at this and I appreciate any suggestions. And as always, thanks for the help from the community.