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System specs?

The NF-P14S have good static pressure but are also fairly balanced. NF-S12B's don't have great static pressure and I'd hesitate to recommend them for a filtered intake. NF-S12A's are better overall if you really want to get 120mm's but the effectiveness of the lowest fan blowing into the psu shroud is questionable. That being said, it doesn't get much quieter than NF-S12A's if you don't mind sacrificing a bit of performance for very low noise. 

If you're aiming for low noise, 900rpm is still fairly high. Have you tried lower rpm? 
That being said, Arctic F12's are okay and not very quiet. Slipstreams are better: https://www.forit.ro/ventilatoare-radiatoare/scythe/108727-slip-stream-120-mm-800-rpm/
If you have more to spend, I recommend NF-P14S for front intake and a NF-S12A for rear exhaust:
https://www.forit.ro/ventilatoare-radiatoare/noctua/108744-nf-p14s-redux-1200-pwm/
https://www.forit.ro/ventilatoare-radiatoare/noctua/108922-nf-s12a-flx/

I have found that fans below ~1000-1200rpm can't create the pressure needed to move air through a computer. Those airflow numbers for low rpm fans tends to be free air flow as in suspended with nothing in front or back other then the device checking flow speed.
 
That said, I find Noctua fans to be the best all round. They are low noise, quieter then the db ratings would make you think when compaired to others and yet they move a good amount of air, and they LAST. 

If you decide to mount second fan that’s how it should look like.

TLDNR: @homeap5 is mostly correct and probably entirely correct in this case.
 

a lot of words to make a narrow point and explaining why two fans are sometimes used at all:
So this is a question about cpu fans and which way the fans face when attached to the cpu cooler.  That wasn’t clear to me.  
If they want a first fan to be pointing away from the cooler fins ( pull configuration)  they probably have a reason.  A second fan on the other side of the cooler pointing in through the fins (push configuration) would be correct then, though there is a very good chance it is neither needed nor wanted.
It will not gain you any temperature decrease I suspect.  
There are occasional reasons to mount two fans but it only helps in very specific circumstances and only to reduce noise.  
the noise a fan makes is to a large extent based on the speed of the outer edge of the fan blade.  If this speed goes beyond a certain point they can start to get loud quickly.  A second fan is only useful when the cooler is heavily taxed and fans get fast enough to do this.  IF this is the case, a second fan in push-pull can provide a bit of extra power to slow the fans below this level so even though there are two fans they make less noise than 1 fan because they are both spinning below this critical number.  The number varies with fan design but back in the day, it was usually somewhere between 800-1000 rpm.  So if a single  fan is making a lot of noise adding a second sometimes makes it quieter.  The rest of the time it makes it louder.

when you're saying it's runing like shit that should manifest somehow. like low fps ,high temps,stutter etc. and you probably just getting a bad model from factory when most of the cards work fine shouldn't generalise on the whole brand

PWM mode is for fan with 4 pins, so DC mode it is.
Are you able to set a custom DC fan curve? Or maybe you could drag the nodes down a bit?

It all boils down to how bad the drivers were at launch. Traditionally, AMD has launched its GPUs with drivers that didn't yet make the most of the hardware. Hence, as they polished the drivers over time, these GPUs experienced a performance boost that put them more in line with their hardware specs.
 
There may also be a difference in willingness to implement completely new features into drivers for older cards, but I'm no sure there's a difference either way there, and it will certainly depend on how similar the architecture is between older and newer cards.

that's interesting but i already went for 2 arctic AC p14 140mm , they were around 6 euro each and they are rated for 72.8 CFM,i think they are good value for the money. on the roof i don't think i will place any fans 

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/mid-tower/masterbox-mb511/
 
According to the official page, it seems that you have to mount the 140mm fan behind the front plate.

Using Noctua as a bench 3 120s are about 10%(20% with the new gen 120s but those aren't relevant to the comparison) more airflow than 2 140s. But that's in a completely unrestricted situation. So figure closer to 20-30% given the case mesh. However, 3 120s will also give you a much more consistent airflow pattern throughout the case which should make GPU temps better. Since you have to buy new fans, I'd recommend the Pure Wings 2.

I'd probably just go for the 2x 140mm, as they have roughly the same amount of airflow, so you don't have to deal with extra headers. Might be a bit quieter too, depending on the fan.

Well, if you like blings and rgb, 3x 120mm rgb fans is the answer (using 2x 140mm fan may leave a dark space). But if you don't mind the RGB, 2x 140mm it is.

3x120 and 2x140 is not all that different, still up to individual fan performance. 120mm fans are usually more widely available though

Hello,
 
2x140mm will probably have the same airflow that 3x120mm and be quieter too  

i own the Monoprice Monolith M1060 and these where €350. but god damn those sound like angels.
Sony MDR-ZX770AP
Sony WH-CH510 Zwart
Sennheiser HD 300
those headphones are good
 
you should check review on youtube. there are other good brand. like sony, jbl, jvc

I am a fan of Grado Headphones, but you either love them or hate them

I think they are pretty good just a wee to bright for my tastes.

Guess it's 60w for the GPU core, 20w for the memory controller then
 
silent mode and boost mode is probably talking about the two bios of the card. Mayabe they act different I dont know. Nor do I care when I could do software tunings

Run a game that can hit the power limit hard, see what happens
 
Also you dont get to read total power draw of the card since AMD still doesn't have sensors for that. It could read power draw from all the VRMs, but it has no idea what the efficiency is and hence no idea what the full power draw is.

I believe the last estimation for Zen 2 was around the middle of this year.

It's not and it's utter garbage, cheap doesn't mean good
any high-quality ATX PSU will do
 
Like @NunoLava1998 said go with the CX450 it's over your budget but also the cheapest not-complete-junk PSU:
 
DC-DC converters for better voltage regulation 
LLC+ half-bridge topology (which is tipically seen in many high end PSUs thanks to its higher efficiency and electrical performance)
Uses quality capacitors where it matters (in other words, it is expected to last longer than the rest of PSUs)
All working protections and prooven to be reliable (check tomshardware review for that)
More than enough cables and power for your build and any reasonable upgrades.
Rifle-bearing fan (which is an enhanced version of sleeve bearings, which are pretty much the standard in cheap PSUs, and even in those that aren't so cheap)
5 year warranty
 
I wouldn't recommend it for a high-end system, but no other PSU matches the CX450 in therms of performance per dollar.
 
https://www.amazon.in/Corsair-CP-9020120-NA-CX450-Power-Supply/dp/B01MTZ96RU/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=cx450&qid=1556975666&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Firstly, there's more reviewers that test protections than Aris.
EVGA G3 650 @ Toms - 12V OCP / OPP at 143.8% (12V Out of spec), OTP implemented. No damage.
EVGA G3 850 @ Toms - OPP at 140.58%, OTP implemented high, but no failure.
EVGA G3 1000 @ Toms - OPP At 127.9%, OTP implemented. PSU died in OPP test.
EVGA G3 550 @ ComputerBase 12V OCP / OPP at 157%.OTP implemented. No recorded damage.
EVGA G3 750 @ eTeknix - OPP at at 151%. No recorded damage.
 
So it seems the only concern with the G3 protections comes from one sample at 1000W. How do you know this wasn't a sample defect? How do you know this isn't isolated to the 1KW model?
 
And here's all the tests I could find on the G2...
EVGA G2 550 @ ComputerBase - 12V OCP / OPP at 153. OTP implements though not listed in specs. No recorded damage.
 
The G2's OPP trip points seem equally as high as the G3s, so who's to say the 1KW version won't fail. And we have a limited sample space, which is expected from a 7 year old PSU.
 

Note: The PSU Tier List has been migrated to a new thread: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-10/
 
 
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Welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Worked on, by @Stefan Payne, @LukeSavenije, and myself. This is a complete overhaul.
 
We'd recommend that if you have a gaming system, to not have a unit below Tier B.
 
All information below is opinion based on fact. Units may be bumped down due to the following: missing protections, group regulation, bad electrical performance and catching fire.
List is subject to change at any time, due to change in sources available.
Single rail units exceeding 650W will not be placed above Tier A.
Sleeve bearing fans will not be placed above Tier B. Group regulated units will not be placed above Tier C.
 
Last updated 22 August, 108, revision r1.43.
 
 
Tier A+ (Ultra High-end)
Aerocool - Project 7 650W Antec - High Current Pro, High Current Platinum Be Quiet! - Straight Power 11, Dark Power Pro P10, Dark Power Pro 11 Bitfenix - Whisper, Formula Gold Cooler Master - old V series 550/650, MasterWatt Maker, MasterWatt Maker MiJ, new V Platinum 550/650 Corsair - AXi, RMi, RMx 550/650W, SF, HX 2017, HXi, RM (2019) 550/650 Enermax - Platimax, Platimax Digifanless  FSP - Hydro PTM 550/650W Mistel - MX650  NZXT - E-series 550/650W Seasonic - PRIME/PRIME Ultra 550W/600W/650W Super Flower - Leadex Gold II 550/650, Leadex Gold III 550/650 XFX - XTS 460/520W  
Tier A (High-end)  
Aerocool - Project 7 750W+ Antec - Earthwatts Pro Gold, HCG Gold Asus - ROG Thor Be Quiet! - Straight Power E10, Pure Power 10/11 =>400W, SFX-L Cooler Master - VSM-series =>550W,  MWE Gold, V Series 750W+ Cougar - GX-F Corsair - Vengeance Silver, AX760/860, HX gold, RM, TXM 2017, AX850/AX1000, RMx 750W+, RM (2019) 750W+ Enermax - RG, GX EVGA - 1000G, G1+, GQ, GD, P2, T2, G2, PS FSP - Hydro G, Dagger SFX, Hydro X, Aurum PT, Hydro PTM 750W Gigabyte - AP850GM, XP1200M  Kolink - Continuum NZXT - E-series 750W+ Riotoro - Onyx, Enigma, Enigma G2   Rosewill - Quark, Fortress, Capstone, Lightning, Silent Night, Tachyon, Photon SAMA - Armor Gold, Forza Titanium SeaSonic - Focus Plus Platinum, Platinum (XP/XP2/XP3), Focus Gold, Focus Plus Gold, X, Snow Silent, non-PRIME Fanless, PRIME/PRIME Ultra 750W+ Silverstone - Gold Evolution, Strider Gold, Nightjar, Strider Titanium Super Flower - Golden Green, Platinum King, Leadex I, Leadex Gold II 750W+, Leadex Gold III 750W+ Thermaltake - Toughpower Grand Platinum, Toughpower Grand/RGB 1200W, Toughpower iRGB Plus, DPS G RGB XFX - Pro Black Edition Limited, XTS 1000W  
Tier B (Budget)
Antec - EDGE, TruePower Classic be Quiet! - Power Zone, System Power 9 =>400 watts Corsair - Vengeance Bronze, CX* (2017), CXM* (2015),  CXM (2012)*=>750w Cooler Master - MWE Bronze =>600w Cougar - GX-S, LX Deepcool - DQ-ST EVGA - B2, BQ =>750, B3, G3 Fractal Design - Integra M FSP - Aurum Pro Lian Li - SFX-L LEPA - G600 Riotoro - Onyx Rosewill - Capstone G SeaSonic - M12II >=750W Silverstone - Bronze SFX V3.0, Strider GS Super Flower - Leadex Silver Thermaltake - Toughpower Grand/RGB, Toughpower DPS DPS Gold/RGB, London, BlueEvo 2.0, Smart Pro RGB, Smart series =>750W, Vivo - 24K 650W XFX -  Pro XXX, Pro XTR, Pro Black, Pro Black FM, TS Gold Xilence - Performance A+, Performance X Zalman - EBT   
Tier C (Prebuilt Replacement)
Antec - EarthWatts/EA Green, High Current Gamer, NEO ECO, Earthwatts Platinum be Quiet! -  Pure Power 10 <=350 watts, Pure Power 11 <=350 watts, Pure Power L9, System Power 9 <=350, Straight Power E9, Pure Power L8 Bitfenix - Fury Cooler Master - GM, GX Storm, MasterWatt Lite, mwe bronze <=500 watt Corsair - CX* 2012*, CXM 2012*, GS-series, VS grey Cougar - STX, VTX Enermax - Revolution X't EVGA - BQ <=650W, NEX Gold Fractal Design - Tesla R2 500W FSP - Aurum, Hydro GE, Aurum CM Inwin - Classic Series Seasonic - SS, SSP, S12II/M12II <=620W, ECO 430W Silverstone - Strider Plus, Bronze SFX (except 450W V3) Thermaltake - Toughpower Gold, Paris XFX - TS <650W, ProSeries Bronze <650W, Core >650W  
Tier D (just don’t buy…)
Antec - Basiq VP-F, Basiq BP, Basiq VP Bitfenix - BPA Cooler Master - B2, Elite Corsair - VS orange Diablotek - all units EVGA - 80 PLUS, Non Certified Enermax - NaXn 82+, Revolution SFX FSP - Raider Silver, Hexa Fractal Design - Integra R2 Gamdias - All units LEPA - MX-F1 MS-Tech - all units Raidmax - all units Rosewill - Hive-S, ARC (M) Silverstone - Strider Essential Tacens - all units Thermaltake - LitePower, ToughPower, Smart series <750W, TR2 XFX - XT Xilence - Performance C Zalman - GS/GT  
I don't see my unit here. Where does it rank?
You may find it in the legacy list, here
 
Why is FOCUS so low?
You can find more on this here.
 

 
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