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  1. 36 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

    I built a PC in one and it runs warm but nowhere near dangerously hot

    Plus modern computers have decent thermal precautions in place

     

    Unless you can find me a case where the h500 killed a component due to heat, I find your recommendation is just being over the top, especially if OP already owns it and is using it just fine as he states

     

    Sure, I would recommend op to consider other cases if he haven't gotten it yet, but asking him to buy a whole new case just because their components are running warmer (not overheating or throttling) is just absurd

     

    How is 120/180 equal to 50%?

    That's around 60% from my power limit in MSI afterburner

    But that's besides the point, I also ran a 3090 at 340W plus my 3600 on the same config, minus the dual 3060ti of course

     

    Again, I tripped OCP few times, but not on any of the config I listed (not even the same PSU, it was a rm850x and hx1000 on different occasions)

     

    I'm not saying it won't happen, but I won't recommend OP to spend money on it until it's actually an issue for him

    Because I can see it working just fine with a 3070 class GPU, but it's pretty borderline, yes

     

    Ok then, how else would you know it's an issue before you actually face an issue?

    From my experience, it's fine until you hit OPP

    If you have any other way, is be interested to educate myself

     

    To me, if the system is running fine, then it should be fine

    The only thing I can think of is bad ripple on the output rails under high load causing issues, but I doubt that's an issue for the RM550x since it's not a sketchy unit

    Did some testing, and for the CPU I peaked on 80 degrees / 112 W. The GPU peaked at 71 degrees (85 at 'Hot Spot) with 181 W. Thermal wise, I think it would be fine thermal wise, and PSU depends on wether or not the 3060 ti goes way over the power usage that are listed in the specifications. I might look into a new case, I wouldnt mind a better one tbh. It has been anoyying me for a bit, that it gets quite hot very easily resulting in undervolting my CPU, adjusting my fan speed all around to make sure it actually doesn't get dangerous. It's quite loud haha

  2. 6 hours ago, Moonzy said:

    ...no?

    i literally ran 2x 3060ti and a ryzen 5 3600 full tilt on a CX550M... albeit i undervolted them a few (120w per GPU from ~180W stock)

     

    i would say don't worry about it until it's actually an issue

    By issue, i mean tripping the PSU's OPP

     

    while it is not a thermally ideal case, it's nothing to worry about until it's actually an issue

     

    I wouldn't suggest OP to go for it and spend money unless it's an actual issue rather than based on speculations

     

    as for OP's questions:

    i recommend looking into pugetsystem's benchmarks for the specific workstation applications you use for further analysis as workstation tasks are quite special

    at times, you might be better served with a quadro due to driver support etc

    example: https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Photoshop-139/Hardware-Recommendations

     

    for 1440p 144hz gaming

    10:25 (timestamped)

    3070ti seems to better fit 1440p 144fps, since it still falls short of it averagely

     

    but do note that it has 4GB less VRAM, which may be beneficial to have for your workstation workloads

    Thanks for the response, ill check it out ^^ and yea I will see wether the psu/case are problematic or not before replacing 😛

  3. 47 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

    Recommended yes, not necessarily needed. RM550X is quality unit and most likely handles spikes up to 650W with no issues. 3070ti with 300W:s is getting close to pushing the limits but I still would test under-volting before spending money on a new psu.

    I already undervolted my cpu, not sure what the difference in W is but solved my thermal problems going from 90 to 76 C without performance loss ^^ My 2060 definatly uses more W then recommended by nvidia though. Around 180 peaks. I should probably check the total powerconsumption somehow.

  4. 1 hour ago, Forleb said:

    That 3060 Ti is the best of the three for its model; It has the best cooling solution & the most OC potential. VRAM shouldn't be a major issue if you're aiming for 144Hz gaming, as you'd have to lower settings on several games even with the 3070 Ti to achieve that consistently, which would automatically reduce the volume required.

     

    I'd also strongly advise looking for a higher wattage PSU and a different case. 550W just won't hold up with a 5800X and a 3060 Ti, and both are going to suffer a lot thermally with a coffin like the NZXT H500. My personal favorite is the Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Performance, but I'm not sure I can recommend it when its improvement over the H500 would likely send you into cardiac arrest.

    Thanks for the awnser, yea I've fiddled a bit with the airflow/fan speed/voltage way back when my gpu went up to 83 C and the cpu sat at 90 C. They now cap at about 68 C for the gpu and 75 for the cpu. The case isn't great :P Though I think the psu with the 3060ti should be fine, according to a psu calculator but will check out what the 5800x is using atm.

  5. Budget (including currency): €1000

    Country: Netherlands

    Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games (Various games, like the new Battlefield/CoD/Dying Light), 3D design & Rendering with AutoDesk software (Revit/3DS Max) and Adobe (Premiere/After Effects) for video editing, graphics/motion design & Photoshop.

    Other details: Currently I am using the MSI GeForce RTX 2060 Ventus 6G OC with the Ryzen 7 5800X CPU, Gigabyte Aorus X570 ELITE MOBO, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX RAM, Corsair RM550x PSU and a NZXT H500 case.

     

    I'm playing on a 2560x1440p 144 Hz monitor (LG UltraGear 27GL850) and would like to upgrade my GPU. I'm not quite satisfied with the performance I get on 1440p, though I am not sure which GPU would be the best upgrade for me. I've looked at a few cards and can't really figure out what makes which card better/what specs to look at. For the 3060's below, there's more VRAM but less cores or the other way around. Then the 3070 would, probably be better then both 3060's (because more cores?) but would the extra investment be worth it, or would the performance gain with either of the 3060's be more then enough. The 3070 is about €350 more then the 3060's at the moment.

    • MSI GeForce RTX 3060 GAMING X 12G 
    • MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Gaming Z TRIO 8G 
    • MSI GeForce RTX 3070 Ti VENTUS 3X 8G OC

    Hope someone can help me out ^^

     

  6. 2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

    An i5 9600k overclocked to 5GHz is 180W in a synthetic stress test.
    An RTX 2060 is about 160W stock, or about 190-200W overclocked.
    Motherboard, RAM, fans, LEDs, SSDs give another 50W or so.

    So peak load with everything overclocked running synthetic tests designed to stress test CPU/GPU you're looking at up to 450W max. More realistic real world gaming load would probably be closer to 350W. Less if you're not going hard on the overclocks.
     

     

    Outervision lies. That forum post is 5 years old (updated in 2016 though) and talks about systems with FX series CPUs. It's outdated.

    If it would put your mind at ease, then there are some 500/550W PSUs in the few I listed earlier, including the Masterwatt 550, Corsair CX550, and Pure Power 500W. All around the same price as your current unit.

     

    If the sound is coming from the PSU then it is likely a bad fan bearing, which means there's a higher chance that the fan will die soon and since that particular PSU does not have fan failure protection or OTP (Over Temperature Protection) when the fan dies the unit will likely overheat and fail, potentially catastrophically.
    Since you just bought it are you able to return it to the store you bought it from for a refund? Even if you just get store credit instead of a cash refund and use the credit to buy a different PSU like the ones I listed above which are similarly priced.

    Thank you, stopped the fan at start up and there was no sound. Definatly the fan, if fan bearing is indeed that bad as you described i'll definatly return it. Maybe look at 400/500 ones aswell then.

  7. 8 minutes ago, seon123 said:

    And you can see from Anandtech's review that the system will use less than 300W under a gaming load.

    That is wall power, so the DC side power consumption will be ~10% lower. You are not going to add 100W to a 160W card by overclocking on air.

    Well regardless of how much watt I need, it's more about the one I currently have and wether I should keep it/ get a new one/ get another one. Just get another one is not really an option if it's not broken, if it is broken it would be fixed by getting a new one. If it's the PSU, and it's nothing out of the ordinary for this specific one then i'm not gonna bother sending it back for a bit of sound. 

  8. 1 minute ago, Spotty said:

    400/500 W isn't enough, 500 is atleast cutting it close. Currently running GTX 2060/ i5-9600k/ 32gb ddr 3000 mhz ram/ samsung 970 & 860 ssd/ msi z 390 mobo. 

     

    It does sound very simular to an HDD, problem is I dont have an HDD so theres litteraly no way its coming from that XD I did unplug the gpu, and very sure it's coming from the PSU.

  9. Hey everyone, I recently build a new system and the one thing that has been annoying me is the sound the PSU makes, not the sound itself but not knowing wether or not it's a sound that's completely normal or something I should go back to the store with. The sound is always going, and definatly coming from the PSU as the sound will be there without having the GPU connected, regardless of the PC performance the sound is the same, it's coming from the PSU/GPU area hence I also checked without the GPU plugged in. PC is working fine, I just don't know the sound and if it's something that shouldn't be there it's better to return it. 

     

    I recorded the sound with the fans making the most noice, if you listen closely you can hear the PSU sound i'm referring to. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7YB0003VXs&feature=youtu.be

    I'd describe it as slurpy/ grindy? Not sure.

     

    Gigabyte GP-B700H 700W PSU is what I'm using.

     

    Thanks!

  10. 24 minutes ago, 0x1e said:

    OK,
    Have you configured your RAM using XMP?
    If you have then download and run Memtest 86 from a USB stick.
    It's going to take a few hours to complete with 32GB.

    Ye started that a bit ago

  11. 1 minute ago, 0x1e said:

    As it's a new install I would restart from scratch again.

    Norton is know to take over your machine and can cause so many problems. That's why heavy users, or gamers don't use it.

    So start again with no Norton.

    Ill do that haha

  12. Hey all

     

    Yesterday I built my new PC, and finalized everything today.

    - msi geforce rtx 2060 ventus

    - intel i5 9600k

    - msi z 390 pro

    - 32 gb ddr4 3 ghz ram (corsair)

    - gigabyte 700W psu

    - samsung 970 m2 ssd

     

    Booted from premade usb with the most recent bios version, internet driver and windows creation tool files. 

     

    Flashed bios, installed windows, installes internet driver and thEn other drivers. Afterwards I did all the windows updates, installed some other programs (norton, i know/discord/uplay/razer/logitech software) and played some games.

     

    After about 12 hours I got a blue screen, errorcode (symefasi64.sys) according to google caused by norton (yep) so i deleted norton restarted the pc and done i thought.

     

    Back into the game and another blue screen this time:(SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED) (SYMEFASI64.SYS) 

    Related to drivers from what i could find but all drivers were up to date. I check the gamefiles, all good, start the game and this time i cant even get into the game. The game crashes followed by bsud, new error (memory-management) so at this point i dont know anymore.

     

    Things that i think can be related:

    - psu is making a weird noise, maybe its not working propperly causing differemt errors. Will swap the psu to see if it helps as the sound is anoyying.

    - deleting norton corrupted something and caused a domino effect?

     

    After hours of trial and error i encountered more and more problems. Couldnt start the game at all, couldnt update or reinstall nvidia drivers.

     

    Will reinstall windows, change the psu but not sure what else i can do and if that will even help.

     

    U guys have any ideas? The psu makes a sound like its slurping a drink, maybe a bit like an old hdd writing the disk. 

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