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I've had a G502 since it first launched and have no issues with the feet coming up. Maybe it has something to do with using a hard surface mouse pad. Nothing for the edges to catch on.

Fairly sure reposting something that was deleted by a mod won't go over too well. Also, the fact that its Blizzard has nothing to do with the issue. Your claim that the program is bloatware is simply not true, but making nonsense claims like that spread like cancer. Hence the detailed definition I posted earlier. The term bloatware gets tossed around by people who don't actually know what bloatware is and base their claim on nothing but personal bias. Bloatware would be if they took the exact same original individual game launcher, made no improvements or additions to it, and released it with a significantly larger file size. But that's not the case with the Battle.net launcher. It took multiple programs, combined them into one, then added numerous additional features and graphical UI improvements. All while maintaining a very small and reasonable file size.

I question your definition of good. This fits exactly with the crazy stuff they've been doing ever since SR: The Third, and looks just as funny. It's obviously a filler title while they continue to work on the next full SR game. But they are going about it the right way by giving it a "less than full game" price point and making it so you don't have to own the previous version of the game.

While technically an expansion for Saints Row 4, Gat Out of Hell will be available as a standalone purchase for $20. No need to own SR4 in order to play it. I was a late adopter of the Saints Row franchise, for SR The Third in a Humble Bundle, but did bother to install it for like a year later. It has everything I've always wanted in the GTA franchise, with none of the tedious nonsense like having to change your clothes to keep your girl friend happy, or your appearance being affected by what you eat. If I want a life simulator, I'd play The SIMS. Yes the stories for the SR series are absurd, but all the more fun because of it. Nothing says "I'm in a video game doing impossible things to have fun like ". The announcement video for Gat Out of Hell makes it clear they will be sticking with all the absurd things that have made the series so successful in the past. Taking the two most popular characters, Kinzie and Gat, and making them the playable characters instead of "The Boss" is also a nice change.

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No, but you can increase your memory clock, which does improveme video memory related performance.

The comment about programming knowledge was a rhetorical statement, in that, it doesn't matter what we know or don't know. What matters is its obvious that he doesn't know what he's talking about because of the complete lack of proof to back up his claims and the fact that he completely dismisses any point that proves him wrong. He tries to compare the program to stupid things like Pidgin, when in fact the only programs it can be compared to are things like STEAM. Which I mentioned. The fact that his claims are baseless is reinforced when he tries to use his personal opinion and bias as justification for his claims. He doesn't like/prefer a graphically pleasing UI, so he labels any and all resources necessary for as bloatware. He also doesn't like the idea of launchers or centralized programs at all, so he again labels it as bloatware because its something he doesn't like. That's why I quoted that long description of what bloatware really is, because it specifically points out the fact that people like LAwLs are constantly labeling things as bloatware when they are simply ignorant of the facts, and/or are making the statement based on personal preference.

That M305 on its own is very light since its an undersized travel mouse. But the battery adds obvious weight to it. I can't directly compare it to a G502 since its a full sized gaming mouse with a ton of features. The basic weight of the G502 is considered heavy by some people, but I don't agree. More for balance than weight I did add one of the included weights in the front slot. Keeps the center of gravity towards the front of the mouse that way.

No, we don't know about programming, but @LAwLz doesn't either, and that's the point I am trying to make. When something is as small as a whopping 222MB, and does the two dozen different things that the Battle.net launcher does, and does it looking as good as the launcher does, and does it without bugs or other errors, NO ONE, not one single person the face of the Earth, can call that program bloatware unless they have the technical knowledge to prove other wise. We are beating a dead horse at this point, but my only hope is people are smart enough to ignore the nonsense that is being spewed by the haters in this thread that are complaining with no actually knowledge to justify those complaints and no proof to back up those claims. People have a right to say they don't like something, but they don't have a right to incorrectly label the launcher as something that its not. It not bloatware, and does not even come close to meeting the proper definition of bloatware. "Software bloat is a process whereby successive versions of a computer program become perceptibly slower, use more memory/diskspace or processing power, or have higher hardware requirements than the previous version whilst making only dubious user-perceptible improvements. The term is not applied consistently; it is often used as a pejorative by end users to describe undesired user interface changes even if those changes had little or no effect on the hardware requirements. In long-lived software, perceived bloat can occur from the software servicing a large, diverse marketplace with many differing requirements. Most end users will feel they only need some limited subset of the available functions and will regard the others as unnecessary bloat, even if people with different requirements do use them. Actual (measurable) bloat can occur due to de-emphasising software efficiency in favour of other concerns like developer productivity, or possibly through the introduction of new layers of abstraction like a virtual machine or other scripting engine for the purposes of convenience when developer constraints are reduced. The perception of improved developer productivity, in the case of practising development within virtual machine environments, comes from the developers no longer taking resource constraints and usage into consideration during design and development; this allows the product to be completed faster but it results in increases to the end user's hardware requirements to compensate."The Battle.net launcher took multiple programs and combined them into a single program, with a single and much more graphically pleasing UI, while at the same time adding tons of extra useful features along with much better and much easier to use security. And they did it all while using a whopping 0.00% of my CPU, 70MB of system RAM and 222MB of HDD space. Which is less than what any similar desktop program uses and less than most of the apps on my phone use, all of which are forced by necessity to be extremely efficient for use on my underpowered iPhone 4S. The Battle.net desktop launcher/app can NOT be compaired to crap like Pidgin, or any other non-game related programs. UPlay, Origin, STEAM, those are the only programs the it can be compared to, as they are the only programs that provide the same functions and features, and it uses a lot fewer resources than any one of those programs.

Its not price gouging when the products deliver as advertised, or when the direct competitor's product is so horrible in comparison that their only option is to price their product low enough to give any justification for using it.

Not a mystery at all. More than 2GB? Absolutely. More than 3GB? Technically possible but extremely limited to mostly things like heavily modded Skyrim or unoptimized games like Watch Dogs. Star Citizen may push that limit, and while it may not look like it from the early videos, indications are that Evolve will be very VRAM hungry at higher detail levels.

That's actually a really good deal.

I'm just glad I'm not the only person that sees this for what it is, complete and utter nonsense with no basis in reality or fact. The OP posted a rant for no other purpose than to rant. He was just upset that a change was being made and nothing else. Like flies to honey, his nonsensical complaints attracted the attention of the "Professional products/programs are evil, Open Source forever!" crowd. They would have all of us using nothing but Linux and other open source programs that are dumbed down enough in features to be able to fit onto a floppy disc and be run by a 40 year old rotten potato. If a program doesn't meet those absurd requirements, it makes that program "bloat ware" whatever other nonsense they want to label it. Blizzard is not taking anything away from their customers, or making things more difficult for their customers, or negatively impacting their customers in any way with the Battle.net desktop app. Which is the official name for it since its more than just a launcher now. For a whopping 222MB you have a system that is both easier and faster to use, as well as more secure and offers more features than the old individual launchers for each different game. The fact that people like the OP are saying the old individual launchers were good proves they don't know what they are talking about since its a double standard. From day one, all Blizzard games have been capable of being run without the use of the launchers. It wasn't possible to install the games without the launchers also being installed, but they were never a requirement to play the game. You could always run the .exe file for the game directly, and you can STILL run the .exe game file directly with the new launcher/app. All Blizzard did was take the launchers for multiple games, and combine them into a central program. While at the same time that integration allowed them to make their security features less obtrusive for their customers. I can log in once with both my password and authenticator to the desktop app, and if I launch any of my multiple Blizzard games, it will automatically log me in with in the game. While under the old system you would have to run the game and log in each time you wanted to play. The new desktop app can also recognize if I am logging in from a different computer, something the old system couldn't do. I could tell if your IP was different, but not if the actual computer was different. But this has gone on long enough. None of the claims or complaints about the launcher are actually ture.

I hope he sues the shit out of the cops.

Nothing new really. Malicious ads have been around since ads were first used on the internet. Its reason number one that I give when a site or content owner/creator complains about things like AdBlock. Until they can 100% guarantee that all ads on their site are safe, and will always be safe, I will continue to block them. Google ads are not safe, not even close to being safe. There is nothing that stops people from running malicious ads via Google Ads. Hell, Google can't even secure their own Google Play store.....

How can Nvidia get phased out by Mantle when supposedly AMD will share it with the entire world free of charge when its out of beta? Also, OpenCL??? Seriously???? Not even AMD thinks that developers will use OpenCL. Nothing will replace DirectX until Microsoft chooses not to support and develop it any more. Stuff like CUDA and OpenCL will stay limited to things like professional rendering.

Just give it up already. None of what you said is based on actual facts. You are just dumping on the program because you don't like it. So, for the last time, unless you can code a program that does everything the Battl.net launcher does, make it look as good, but only us 50mb or less of HDD space, you have absolutely no business claiming that the 200mb is excessively larger than it needs to be. I'm not alone in seeing through your nonsense either. Just because a program can be stripped down of all quality in terms of looks, and stripped of everything that makes it easy for the widest range of consumers to use, does not make those other programs better. Nor does it make the Battle.net launcher bloatware. Yes I did read your other post, and yes you still have not listed programs that can do everything the launcher does. Not even close. Since NONE of them allow for things like a multiple platform integrated chat feature, with no use of an overlay, and none of them come close to offering the type of security and account controls that the Battle.net laucnher does.

It would be nice to see Google respond to criticism like this. As bas things were on MS's app store, Google Play is still a steaming cesspool of malicious apps that Google refuses to remove or block in the first place like Apple does. http://www.riskiq.com/company/press-releases/riskiq-reports-malicious-mobile-apps-google-play-have-spiked-nearly-400

It took me about a week to get used to the mouse wheel. After that it feels perfectly natural. It has to do with how the mouse wheel works in two different modes. Its a little tighter than your average mouse wheel because you can unlock it for a free spin mode that other mice don't have. The only thing I would have changed with it is to coat it in something so the surface of the wheel was less smooth. But like I said, I got used to it after about a week and don't even notice it any more.

That's my biggest issue with this. You can say you don't like something, but don't claim that its something its not without being able to prove it. Making claims that it can do everything it currently does with only a less than 50MB install says is complete nonsense. His only justification for his claim is that there are other programs, none of which can do everything the Battle.net launcher does, that have smaller install sizes. But he really proves that he does not in fact know what he is talking about when he starts using the excuse that he doesn't like things that have a nice visual UI. Its just his preference that he doesn't like how it looks, so he bashes it and labels it something that its not. The only thing it could be reasonably compared to is things like Origin or STEAM, yet it has a much smaller install size than either one of those programs. The authenticator and security features offered by the Battle.net launcher also far exceed anything that Valve or EA offer with their programs. The only thing it doesn't have is an in game overlay, but they still offer most of the same features without needing an overlay. You can access the store from directly within the game and use the cross platform friend's list and chat feature. I'm also confused as to why this is still listed in the news section. There is no news of any kind in this entire thread.

Likely in due to the fact that people were accusing MS of willingly allowing the apps to make money from them. http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/200012-microsoft-willingly-allowing-malicious-apps-in-the-windows-store-to-obtain-a-cut-of-the-profits/#entry2711238

No, their justification is that programs like Pidgin, which are incapable of even handling everything the Battle.net chat feature can do, have super small file sizes. They claim that any program that does anything without the smallest possible file size makes the program bloat ware. Yet they can provide no proof that the Battle.net launcher is bigger than it needs to be beyond the fact that they don't like having to use it and dislike programs that look good. Because making the UI look good is one of the reasons why its bloatware. Its already been pointed out to them that they can still run the individual game .exe file without running the launcher, but they completely ignore that point.

Well, you have not even listed multiple programs that can do EVERYTHING the launcher does. So you complaint about the file size is still invalid. Also, you not liking "flashy stuff" does NOT make a program bloatware. That is 100% personal preference. Just because you want things to like simple, dumb downed, plain and ugly does not make a program that looks nice bloatware. I gave you the criteria above as to what programs have to do in order to even match the functionality of the Battle.net laucnher. Name programs, and what they do, that can do everything it does, or give it up already. Also, you do in fact need to use the Battle.net launcher before claiming you know exactly how it works and what other programs can do the same job with smaller install sizes. Launching the games is not a just a matter of running a shortcut. The two step security verification system that Blizzard offers is integrated into both. I can use 1 authenticator to secure all of my games, and because of the launcher, I don't need to enter my user name, password or authenticator code into each of those games. I can enter it all into the launcher and it will communicate that information between each game I play. It is also set up to prompt you for that authenticator code if you try to log in from a different computer, and once every 7 days for basic security. But before they made the Battle.net laucnher, I would have to do that separately for each Blizzard game. Its obvious you have no clue how it works or all the benefits and features that it offers. So stop acting as if you know what you are talking about.

All the buttons can be programed to whatever you want, including macros. The only exception is the lock button for the mouse wheel. The "free spin" mode I mentioned is when you press that button and it unlocks the mouse wheel so it can spin super fast. It otherwise functions like normal, but if you have to scroll through something that's extremely long, you can unlock the mouse wheel to make it scroll super fast. The tilt wheel function is something a lot of mice offer. In addition to a center click for the mouse wheel, there is a left and right click as well. You press the wheel and "tilt" it to the left or right. On a web page or excel document this will give you a left or right scroll function. But just like everything else, they can be reprogrammed to whatever you want. So while the scroll wheel is still one button, you can press that button 3 different ways to perform 3 different actions.

I still have my old MX518, works perfectly so I'm keeping it as a back up. It worked so well that over that last 8+ years that I used it I could never bring myself to spend money on a new mouse. But that all changed the first time I saw the G502. It was a "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!" moment for me. Having used a Mx518 for so long, like you did, I can strongly recommend the G502 as an excellent replacement. The G402 on the other hand, I was very underwhelmed by the reviews I've seen. It only has 1 less button than the G502, so the "I don't want so many buttons" reasoning does not really apply. They took away the "I'm not going to use it in a game anyways" default DPI cycling button and you instead have to used one of the side buttons for that function if you still want. The 402 also has less functionality since you have no tilt wheel, no free spin mode and no custom weight system. lso, one last thing you won't see in G502 reviews, but the update to the Logitech Gaming software gives the G502 the same added control over the LED lighting that you will see in G402 reviews. Something that doesn't get mentioned in those reviews is the fact that those changes make it so the lighting is not as bright, even on the highest setting. The bright lighting that you could only switch from on to off was a complaint some people had with the G502, but that's been fixed.