aexel05

Well, I do everything I want on my 2500k! It is my primary PC, because it is my first one that I built (although it is a prebuilt and as good as it probably gets under 250 USD) and I play e-sports titles on it mostly. I have it paired with an R9 270, which has been called ''a Poor Man's GTX 1050'' by Budget Builds Official. And I only game with a 1080p monitor, and I have seen 1440p before, but I don't see much of a difference from my average viewing distance.

Hi,
as I'm currently running an Insider Build of W11 the software I normally used for CPU/Case-fan-control doesn't work at the moment. I searched for some alternatives and am now using  FanControl.
Unfortunately, I created both a normal profile and a "noFan" profil while getting used to the software and for some reason today my PC started with the nofan profile and therefore didn't use any CPU/ Casefans. GPU Fan is autocontrolled by Afterburner, because of which I wasnt able to hear, that the case/cpu-fans weren't spinning.
 
After some time I noticed some "warm" smell but didn't noticed that it was caused by my PC. When the Framerate was terribly low I wondered what could cause this and opened the Afterburner-OSD and saw the cpu-temperature of 112°C. 
 
I thought that that's not possible but nonetheless checked whether the exhaust is warmer than normal. Obviously, it was quite hot and definitely the source of the "warm" smell I noticed earlier. I immediately closed the game and set all fans to 100% but I'm still wondering why the PC didn't shutdown itself.
 
Before anyone recommends this: Yes, normally I've got an audio-alert set up for high temperatures but apparently I didn't set it up while freshly installing windows some time ago.
 
 
Any recommendations for further steps (besides using fans 🙂)?
 

This right here is why I never use software to control fans; only BIOS settings. Overriding safeties is typically not a good plan, and third-party fan controllers can (but don't always) do just that.
 
That said, why it didn't shut down is a mystery. You should scour your BIOS settings and make sure something dumb isn't toggled to prevent that. Then cross your fingers and hope you didn't hurt anything too much.

I tried that and It didn't helped 😕

No. Sorry for being unprecise, changing the fan-curve didn't affect the temperature a lot.
 
 
@SignatureSigner @HelpfulTechWizard@WoodenMarker
So by now I repasted the GPU, cleaned everything and flipped the top 2 fans:
 
Using Superposition 4k Optimized Benchmark
GPU-Fans at 100% (annoyingly loud, but just for comparison)
 from 8289 points to 8970 (8,22% more) and from 82°C to 55,3°C (32,52% less)
 
GPU Fans at Auto (maxed out at a pleasant 50% fan speed)
from 8163 points to 8878 (8,77% more) and from 81,75°C to 66,7°C (18,45% less)  
 

I call that a successful investment of 4€ and about 2 hours.

Thank you all for your suggestions, as it seams the old thermalpaste was the problem

The fans on the graphics card are intake so the arrows are facing the wrong direction.
Flip the top fans to exhaust for better cooling. 
Can you post a photo of your fan settings?

i would put 2 120mm fans on the shroud say you can do that. posably remove the pci slot covers.

try cleaning your card? repaste?
 

Not even curing the symptom, its like crossing a road with your eyes closed because you don't want to be stopped by a red light.
 
I would second a repaste. Otherwise the options are undervolting, and/or lowering the ambient temperature.
Convection is a non-factor in an active airflow setup.

Fliip the top 2 fans, your fighting natural convection.
flip the psu (if possible) to exhause out the bottom, lowers the namount of hot air getting into the case

These are probably safeguards in the vBIOS, 83 degrees is NVIDIA's limit for thermals, and so I guess it would be expected for the card to do everything in its power to protect itself once that temperature is hit. Whether you have enough airflow or not, the fact that it is fitting 83 degrees and the card wants to cool itself down is an indication that there is too much heat.

Thank you for your answer.

Unfortunately, I already have got one and it doesn't work. As I said, its being overwritten at about 83°

To put an end to this saga:
I managed to successfully swap the Cooler.
Works fine and as intended.
 
Thank you for your help

Luckily it worked. Windows tried to repair itself, skiped that, logged into windows and then shut down again.
Everything seems to work properly.

Now I'm optimistic enough to replace the cooler with the new one.
 
I'll post an update if I'm successfull.. or somehow manage to turn my Ryzen into a Pentium while doing so;)

Thank you for your affirmation, didnt want to cause more harm.

Luckily it worked. Windows tried to repair itself, skiped that, logged into windows and then shut down again.
Everything seems to work properly.

Now I'm optimistic enough to replace the cooler with the new one.
 
I'll post an update if I'm successfull.. or somehow manage to turn my Ryzen into a Pentium while doing so;)

Thank you for your affirmation, didnt want to cause more harm.

Luckily it worked. Windows tried to repair itself, skiped that, logged into windows and then shut down again.
Everything seems to work properly.

Now I'm optimistic enough to replace the cooler with the new one.
 
I'll post an update if I'm successfull.. or somehow manage to turn my Ryzen into a Pentium while doing so;)

Thank you for your affirmation, didnt want to cause more harm.

Yes, do make sure it has at least a little bit of thermal compound.
You should be able to feel the cooler warm up.
And depending on your type of CPU yes that can be instantly after boot and a lot too.

Just happy current CPU's have all sorts of safety's, so most likely the CPU will be fine.
Just take your time, and dont try any shortcuts, and those will lead in destruction.

Yes it does. You might be fine going into BIOS for a short time, but trying to load Windows put more load on the CPU than the heat spreader alone can deal with.
 
But as @HairlessMonkeyBoysaid, butting the cooler on without paste should let you do some basic stuff.
 

Even if a little bit of thermal paste would get into the socket, it's normally not conductive and as long as you let the alcohol completely dry out before reinstalling your CPU i don't think your motherboard or CPU is damaged. Unless you dropped any of them that is.
 
Just remount everything over again and try to boot again.

No no no. I ran cinebench too warm up the thermal paste, shut down the PC myself after a few seconds and then properly removed the CPU cooler. Only the CPU-cooler fan was removed while running

I could have overseen some thermalpaste on an pin or maybe some even got into the socket. That might be the problem.

Windows started and tried a recovery, so to some degree the CPU definitely works.

Summary
Germanys ruling coalition consisting of CDU/CSU and SPD agreed on a new law, that would make updates for smart devices mandatory for a "period that the consumer can expect" (translated citation from the text of the law). This would oblige companies that want to sell to German costumers (meaning most of them) to provide updates for their devices for an extended period which could impact the whole market. The bill will be voted on at the 24th of June and could come into effect in January 2022.
 
Quotes
This change to §475b BGB would add the following requirement for a sold device to be free from defects (italicised text is the new draft)
 
My thoughts
I hope and think that this bill passes on the 24th and following that manufacturers will need to lengthen the lifespan of their products by providing software updates for an extended period of time. Given that the options of manufacturers serving the German market are to either not sell their products anymore or provide updates for longer, I think that this could lengthen the software support for devices in general. Since, if you already develop updates for the German market, you can roll them out worldwide. 
 
 
Sources
Smartphones Software: Update-Pflicht für Smartphone-Verkäufer (handelsblatt.com)
Gesetz führt Update-Pflicht für smarte Geräte ein - PC-WELT (pcwelt.de)
Drucksache 19/27424 (bundestag.de) -  52 page long PDF about this law draft
 
This is my first news post and English is not my native language, so please be kind 🙂

Summary
Germanys ruling coalition consisting of CDU/CSU and SPD agreed on a new law, that would make updates for smart devices mandatory for a "period that the consumer can expect" (translated citation from the text of the law). This would oblige companies that want to sell to German costumers (meaning most of them) to provide updates for their devices for an extended period which could impact the whole market. The bill will be voted on at the 24th of June and could come into effect in January 2022.
 
Quotes
This change to §475b BGB would add the following requirement for a sold device to be free from defects (italicised text is the new draft)
 
My thoughts
I hope and think that this bill passes on the 24th and following that manufacturers will need to lengthen the lifespan of their products by providing software updates for an extended period of time. Given that the options of manufacturers serving the German market are to either not sell their products anymore or provide updates for longer, I think that this could lengthen the software support for devices in general. Since, if you already develop updates for the German market, you can roll them out worldwide. 
 
 
Sources
Smartphones Software: Update-Pflicht für Smartphone-Verkäufer (handelsblatt.com)
Gesetz führt Update-Pflicht für smarte Geräte ein - PC-WELT (pcwelt.de)
Drucksache 19/27424 (bundestag.de) -  52 page long PDF about this law draft
 
This is my first news post and English is not my native language, so please be kind 🙂

Summary
Germanys ruling coalition consisting of CDU/CSU and SPD agreed on a new law, that would make updates for smart devices mandatory for a "period that the consumer can expect" (translated citation from the text of the law). This would oblige companies that want to sell to German costumers (meaning most of them) to provide updates for their devices for an extended period which could impact the whole market. The bill will be voted on at the 24th of June and could come into effect in January 2022.
 
Quotes
This change to §475b BGB would add the following requirement for a sold device to be free from defects (italicised text is the new draft)
 
My thoughts
I hope and think that this bill passes on the 24th and following that manufacturers will need to lengthen the lifespan of their products by providing software updates for an extended period of time. Given that the options of manufacturers serving the German market are to either not sell their products anymore or provide updates for longer, I think that this could lengthen the software support for devices in general. Since, if you already develop updates for the German market, you can roll them out worldwide. 
 
 
Sources
Smartphones Software: Update-Pflicht für Smartphone-Verkäufer (handelsblatt.com)
Gesetz führt Update-Pflicht für smarte Geräte ein - PC-WELT (pcwelt.de)
Drucksache 19/27424 (bundestag.de) -  52 page long PDF about this law draft
 
This is my first news post and English is not my native language, so please be kind 🙂

Summary
Germanys ruling coalition consisting of CDU/CSU and SPD agreed on a new law, that would make updates for smart devices mandatory for a "period that the consumer can expect" (translated citation from the text of the law). This would oblige companies that want to sell to German costumers (meaning most of them) to provide updates for their devices for an extended period which could impact the whole market. The bill will be voted on at the 24th of June and could come into effect in January 2022.
 
Quotes
This change to §475b BGB would add the following requirement for a sold device to be free from defects (italicised text is the new draft)
 
My thoughts
I hope and think that this bill passes on the 24th and following that manufacturers will need to lengthen the lifespan of their products by providing software updates for an extended period of time. Given that the options of manufacturers serving the German market are to either not sell their products anymore or provide updates for longer, I think that this could lengthen the software support for devices in general. Since, if you already develop updates for the German market, you can roll them out worldwide. 
 
 
Sources
Smartphones Software: Update-Pflicht für Smartphone-Verkäufer (handelsblatt.com)
Gesetz führt Update-Pflicht für smarte Geräte ein - PC-WELT (pcwelt.de)
Drucksache 19/27424 (bundestag.de) -  52 page long PDF about this law draft
 
This is my first news post and English is not my native language, so please be kind 🙂

Apparently its the Implementation of an EU directive.
But I dont know when this directive needs to be implemented in the other member countries and how they plan to implement it.