Mister Woof

well
 
i5-12600k ~= i5-13400f
i7-12700k < i5-13600k
i9-12900k < i7-13700k
 
or just get a 7600 for less and get about the same perf. in games

If you can wait a bit I'd consider the 7800X3D

Should be about even, 5800X3D draws less power. The 13600KF will be more consistently fast as some games don't give a shit about the 5800X3D's extra cache, but neither is a slow chip. 
 
Here's benches with a 4090 for the 13900K vs the 5800X3D, the 13600K is within margin of error of the i9 usually IIRC, so the gap will be slightly smaller but not by much: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/rtx-4090-53-games-core-i9-13900k-vs-ryzen-7-5800x3d/2.html

Yeah, cooler installed wrong or pump is dead. 64w and 100c is BUSTED. Check mounting pressure and hopefully they used the correct mounting kit for LGA1700.

taxes? WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME OF THIS EXISTENTIAL DREAD

Download and run HWInfo64, click on the max cpu/thread usage to open up a graph, and also the cpu package temp and open up a graph, and also CPU package power to open a graph.
 
Then play your game, and screencap the results
 
for example my 13700KF while playing CP2077 for a few minutes:
 

 
Tops out at 77C, max cpu thread usage of 73%, max package power of 162w. CP2077 is hugely demanding on CPU compared to the likes of Terraria...you shouldn't even be pinging 1/4 of your CPU playing that game.

Yup, even the 7950x3d bottlenecks it a bit. No game out currently can even make good use of the 4090. We need better "next-gen" games.

Yeah, cooler installed wrong or pump is dead. 64w and 100c is BUSTED. Check mounting pressure and hopefully they used the correct mounting kit for LGA1700.

Reset CMOS, nothing.
 
Ran the test @Mister Woof, also ran CP77. Didn't play, just went into the bit where you have to press space to get to the menu. You can see when I start it.
 

taxes? WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME OF THIS EXISTENTIAL DREAD

taxes? WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME OF THIS EXISTENTIAL DREAD

I will repeat, the best Air cooler is not enough for that CPU.

I mean the 12700K is a perfectly capable gaming processor, and is still damn close to the top of the performance charts here.
 
Can you engineer situations in specific titles where the 12700K might hamper your GPU's performance? Yes. Try running games at 720p and see how things go.
 
Realistically though you're not equipping it with the fastest GPU available, and you're probably gaming at reasonable resolutions.Unless you're really into high refresh rate gaming you'll be fine.

Maybe my understanding is wrong here, so please correct me, but if the GPU utilization is at 100%, doesn't it mean that there's only GPU bottleneck? Yes, a faster CPU would give more fps with the same GPU, but it doesn't mean that the previous CPU bottlenecked the GPU. If the GPU was already at 100%, it means the CPU could feed enough data to the GPU which means there was no CPU bottleneck.
And to test CPUs, the most powerful GPU has to be used to eliminate GPU bottleneck, and vice versa. No one's going to use a 60 class card for CPU benchmarks, so your point is invalid here.
By your logic, even a 12900k bottlenecks 3060 ti, which is ridiculous to say.
 
Also, I have a degree in Industrial Engineering and I'm the supervisor of production planning, I make a living out of eliminating bottlenecks.

Also saw a 25 games 1080 1440p and 4K review at Techtesters (nice Dutch channel, in English, plus the gal is cute... 🙂 )
 

Nuke windows try again 

So you already haven an 11700F? Just keep it. Upgrade the whole platform in a few years.

His ThrottleStop screenshot shows that the CPU is fully loaded.
 
@Derminian
Can you post screenshots of the FIVR and TPL windows? There might be a clue hiding in there. Also open Limit Reasons while your CPU is loaded and see if any items are lighting up red which indicates throttling. Exit HWiNFO when using Limit Reasons. 
 
Have a look in the TPL window. Check the Speed Shift box and make sure Speed Shift Max is set to the suggested value. Also check the MMIO Lock box near the top right of the TPL window. 
 
Set IntelPPM back to the default value. 

@Mister WoofThank you for the response the capture was done during a ThrottleStop Benchmark. 

Is this a fresh install with the new components, or is it a carryover install from a different system? 

Awesome! Done 🙂

there's a "mark as solution" button to click on the bottom left of the post you wish to select as the solution.
 

negligible difference in power consumption in idle and single threaded load
 
only gets nuts at full power, which rarely ever happens since most apps don't even tap those e-cores 
 

 

Wouldn't worry about it. The biggest thing is going to be making sure it has enough USB ports, fan headers, internal USB, and RGB headers.

Wouldn't worry about it. The biggest thing is going to be making sure it has enough USB ports, fan headers, internal USB, and RGB headers.