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    ECS Durathon H610H7-M2 BIOS update

    in Troubleshooting

    Posted

    22 minutes ago, Alfredosunaa said:

    Yes, page 62, no luck following instructions

    Usually you download it and put it onto a memory stick, insert to back top usb slot

     

    reboot, go into BIOS, and inside BIOS usually there's an update tool.

     

    Can't speak for ECS since it's been forever since I've seen one, but that's usually how it works.

    Faulty motherboard?

    in CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory

    Posted

    18 minutes ago, Tetras said:

    If you messed with the mounting hardware then I'd make sure it has been reinstalled correctly. as memory and boot issues can be caused by improper mounts (too tight, too loose, uneven).

    This, my money is uneven contact pressure on the cooler when you put it back on.

     

    Remove the cooler, repaste, tighten cooler down evenly, try again

    Is 4070Ti worth it over the 4070 Super?

    in Graphics Cards

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

    ya... the prices are kinda irrelevant almost cause random af, i just wanted to know the performance diff, i guess.

     

    FYI:

     

    Gigabyte 4070 Super Aero OC (the one i want)

    800 €

     

     

    Inno 3D 4070Ti x3

    829€

     

     

    so that's where I'm coming from lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

    yuk, don't buy the super if that's the price spread

    Is 4070Ti worth it over the 4070 Super?

    in Graphics Cards

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

    yeah, mind you its only 25 bucks more (if you will) but that's like one of the most expensive super vs that ti... 

     

    i was just curious about the perfect difference,  i agree that's generally not worth it then... now I'd just have to find a less overpriced white Super... 

     

    guess the Ventus 2x then?

     

     

    i've been generally unimpressed with 2 fan AIB cards. I have an ASUS KO 3070 and a friend has a 2 fan 4070 Zotac. Both really hot and loud. Also, ASUS RGB software is terrible. I disconnected the RGB cable.

     

    If I was going to get a 2 fan card it would be the FE if I could

    Is 4070Ti worth it over the 4070 Super?

    in Graphics Cards

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

    How did you get that math?

    142 is 94.6% of 150, so 5.4% difference at 1080p

    105 is 93.75% of 112, so 6.25% difference at 1440p

    58 is 92% of 63. so 8% difference at 4k.

     

    I can't remember what country @Mark Kaine is in so I can't speak for specific prices in their country. On Newegg, the cheapest 4070 ti is $724 right now for the Ventus 2x in white. The 4070 Super Ventus 2x white is $620.

    That's a 15% price difference.

    4070s is 105fps at 1440p

    4070 is 88fps at 1440p

    105-88 = 17

    17/88 = 19.3%

    88*1.193 = 105

     

    I rephrased my entire response because I can't read thread titles 😂

    Is 4070Ti worth it over the 4070 Super?

    in Graphics Cards

    Posted

    The 4070 Super is a 19% performance uplift for 9% more money vs the normal 4070.

    The 4070ti is a 7% performance uplift over the 4070 Super, but (at the cheapest of $725) costs 21% more.

     

    Er, rather, no it is not worth it. I misread the thread title. The 4070 Super is worth it.

    Apparently, the RTX 4070 Super is good.

    in Graphics Cards

    Posted

    5 hours ago, The Pizza Man said:

    The 4070 Super is a 1080p? Whelp. Looks like I've been priced out of 1440p gaming then.

    It's most definitely a high-end 1440P card. It seems to average around 105-120fps in aggregated average FPS across multiple titles at 1440p when reviewers used mostly Ultra settings; nobody actually plays on Ultra. Drop to high and you'll be bouncing off the vsync on your typical high refresh 144hz display, barring certain games that have poop FPS for any GPU.

    Apparently, the RTX 4070 Super is good.

    in Graphics Cards

    Posted

    On 1/16/2024 at 10:16 AM, Retro_R said:

    now im conflicted! I just bought a 7800xt, and this looks like a decent option, at least better than the previous 4070. At least i still have time to return it once i get it if theres good 4070 super deals. That would be the first time i went team green in a long time tho

     

    4070S vs 7800XT 

     

    4070S Pros:

    Strong Rasterization Performance, about 5%-10% faster than 7800XT

    Strong Ray Tracing Performance, more consistently competent than the 7800XT

    DLSS gives two options for upscaling since all cards can use FSR

    DLSS3 Frame Gen as another option for smoothing when available

    Superior Video capture and hardware encoding performance

     

    4070S Cons:

    Costs about $100 more

    12GB VRAM buffer could be a problem later in life; solved by reducing texture quality

     

    7800XT Pros:

    $100 Cheaper than 4070S

    Competitive Rasterization, within 90-95% performance of the 4070S

    16GB VRAM has more breathing room

     

    7800XT Cons:

    Inconsistent Ray Tracing, with some outliers being unplayable but others being great; non-issue if you don't care about RT

    FSR is the only upscaling option

    Worse video capture and encoding performance; non-issue if you don't do these things

     

    I don't think you can really go wrong with either. If I was shopping the $500-700 segment I'd get a 4070S. I'd skip everything else in the middle except for a discounted 7900XT at $700, and then go straight to a 4090 after that. The 4080S might upend this though.

    Apparently, the RTX 4070 Super is good.

    in Graphics Cards

    Posted

    On 1/16/2024 at 10:09 AM, 8tg said:

    Intel drivers havent been a mess for months, closing in on almost a year.

    The 4070 super is a $600 gpu, it is a tier above the midrange x60 series where the A770 is designed to compete as well, there is a 12gb RTX 3060 and a 16gb 4060 ti

    A $600 1080p card is an oxymoron

     

    again, there is no justification for 12gb of vram besides to cheap out on the manufacturing, or to direct consumers to a higher tier product that has more video memory, or to a cheaper to manufacture product that has more video memory 

     

    Be that as it may, an A770 won't perform matching a 4070 Super even if the A770 had 48GB. 

     

    You're preaching to the choir here on what the card should have, should have been, could have been, whatever. 

     

    The options we have are what we have. Right now the 4070 Super is a good value despite the 12GB VRAM, and although the 7800XT has 33% more VRAM, it lacks other features that you can't simply ignore because you want to laser focus on one single metric. And on that front, the pricing is competitive with featureset and performance favoring the 4070S.

     

    Personally, I picked up a 4070S FE from Nvidia for $599 and the price is fine. I'm not over the moon about 12GB, but it's more than the 10GB that my 3080 and also we need another GPU. So here we are.

     

    The ability to use DLSS in addition to the option for FSR if/when needed just gives the Nvidia cards more versatility. 

    Upgraded to 7950X3D with no performance gain.

    in CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory

    Posted

    Depends on the game, most will still be heavily GPU bound and those that aren't it will still only be at times you'll see improvements, mostly in FPS minimums. 

     

    And i don't think it's necessary to do a OS reinstall unless you're trading between intel/amd. i've done countless drive swaps between same configuration systems without issue. Last 3 upgrades on my 8700k, 10900k, and 13700k were all the same install, with no perceptible impact on performance.

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