mattheginger

On 3/11/2024 at 5:26 AM, Gorgon said:

Doing some research for something else I surveyed the x670e motherboards to see which ones have PCIe5 x8/x8 slots:

 

About the only "reasonably" priced x670e boards out there are the Asus ProArt and Strix x670e-e and the ASRock TaiChi. The MSI Carbon WiFi would be a contender but rather than shifting all the PCIe slots down 1 slot like the rest they decided to shift everything down 2-slots meaning the lower card will, in most cases, collide with the PSU Shroud.

 

Gigabyte appears to be avoiding having to buy re-drivers on their 670e motherboards in favor of even more m.2 slots and so are out of the running. Which makes me wonder why the Extreme and Master are so expensive.

Thanks @Gorgon. Yeah I did look at both the ProArt and Strix models, but in the end decided to just build a B650 system. And perhaps I'll chuck a 40 series card in my old Ivy bridge system at some point, which my new build has now made redundant. 

Interestingly though, I'm now getting significantly better numbers from my 4070 (non-Ti) in the new system. The card is now topping out at 97% utilisation, whereas before it never surpassed ~92%. This is netting approx an extra 1.5m PPD on the average WU. Could be the difference between PCie 3.0 vs 4.0 perhaps?

19 hours ago, Gorgon said:

a i9-9900k (remember when we used to think these ran hot?)

It was a simpler time... 

16 hours ago, Gorgon said:

Picked up a couple of 4070 Ti Supers to add to the Fold. They appear to be most efficient around 2400MHz.

450W 29MPPD Mini Space Heater:

Which motherboard are you utilising here @Gorgon?

Thanks for your input @Gorgon. I think perhaps I'm just going to take the easier route, and step up the main GPU I put in my primary system to some form of 4080. It wont quite match 2x4070s, but I guess it'll be close enough and with less complication  

@Gorgon Do you have any knowledge in this area? Have you built any multi-GPU 5000 or 7000 series Ryzen rigs? Cheers.

17 hours ago, DoctorNick said:

And to answer the question: yes you can run on lower speeds, you might loose some performance, but running 4x or higher should be OK, considering it'll run 4.0. Check manual for PCI-e/M.2 config @mattheginger

Thanks for your reply. So I should be able to retain 16x on the top card, whilst running 4x on the bottom?

So I'm currently scoping out my first new build in 10 years, in which I hope to run 2x 4070 Supers. But I've noticed that only the high end motherboards support pcie x8/x8 these days. So my primary question is whether that actually matters for folding? What would happen if I installed two cards into a standard b650 or x670 board? Would they run x16/x4? (x4 through chipset). Would they run at x4/x4? And if I could run the top card at x16 and the bottom card at x4, would x4 (through the chipset) provide sufficient bandwidth for folding?

I require the top card to help me slay in Battlefield   So it needs at least 8x.

Any help would be appreciated 

On 9/15/2023 at 11:22 PM, Schnoz said:

Out of curiosity, what's everyone's current PPDs, and what do y'all think you'll be doing by the time Folding Month hits?

 

I'm doing ~20M combined on dual 2080 Tis, a 2070 Super, and an RTX A2000. I might be able to do 35M if I'm not only able to get that liquid-cooled 3090 but jank up a loop and rig so I can run both it and the 2080 Tis.

6M PPD... I have no extra hardware to pull 'out of the cupboard'    

2 hours ago, Captainmarino said:

Funny, I'm still getting those fairly regularly 

Forum is missing a *sad reac 

4 hours ago, Gorgon said:

Yeah! - Larger WUs appear to be available again. Hopefully the Download issue is resolved.

Haven't had the download issue for a couple of days now, so seems resolved. Also loving the extra workout my card's getting in the absence of endless small/low-yield WUs  

Does anybody know why the boinc client dishes out too many tasks with some projects, and not others?

I have the client set to only feed me a days worth of tasks at a time, but projects like prime grid and milkyway tend to throw about 4-5 days worth at me at each opportunity.

WCG, Rosetta etc seem to work perfectly. Is there another setting I’m missing? I was under the impression that the client settings overrule the individual project settings anyhow?

@Supersonicwolfe yeah I’ll definitely check out the tier ratings, and probably buy another Corsair model tbh. 
 

I’ve decided I won’t replace my current power supply immediately, but set a goal of replacing it in the next 3-4 months. I’m thinking about upgrading my gpu around then, so it seems like an opportune time to replace the PSU (perhaps even for a larger model). 

Thanks to all who offered their advice

15 hours ago, Skiiwee29 said:

My personal opinion is a PSU should be swapped out when the warranty expires. Could it continue to be serviceable beyond? Absolutely, but if it ends up causing a catastrophic failure, you're out of luck getting any support for replacing hardware etc. 

Would you actually get support under warranty (from the PSU manufacturer) for your other damaged components? 

Hey guys, I have a Corsair HX650w from around 2013. It’s don’t at least a couple of thousand hours of battlefield, plus light duties and ~2 years total of boinc/folding.

I’m now thinking of swapping in a new mid level cpu/mb/ram combo into the case.

My gut is telling me I should also replace the PSU, but if I’m only going to use around 50% (max) of it’s output, do I really need to replace it?

It’s been flawless it’s whole life. How likely is it that it’ll damage my new components if it fails?

5 hours ago, leadeater said:

Damn, I've never gotten one ever so was curious to at least get one so see how it runs and points etc. I'll just leave it going for a few days and hope I get one.

I haven't got one in at least a month. I always assumed that they only released them periodically.

1 hour ago, dogwitch said:

we just hit 400 ltt user on prime grid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Make that *401  

42 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

So question time, x8 3.0, will it bottleneck a 4070ti? 

 

Seeing lower than expected perf on the new card and wondering if that will be the cause 

I'm not sure regarding the pcie. But as an anecdote, I installed my 4070 (non-Ti) the other night and proceeded to get mostly low-atom WU's for the evening, giving seriously lackluster PPD.

The difference in points between low and high atom WU's for these 40's series cards is wild. Sometimes a full 50% drop.   

All these 18717's are killing me...   

1 hour ago, GOTSpectrum said:

...with the stupid high (0.47USD/KWh) power cost here

9 hours ago, Mxyzptlk said:

I was getting WU before I switched to the BOINC Pentathlon event. I was planning on going back in a few days. 

7 hours ago, Ithanul said:

Hmmm, I have you check to see if you have the latest BOINC Manager installed?

 

I know sometimes WCG can get in a funky mood.  Is the event log spitting anything out?

Yeah I installed the latest version from the get go, then tried deleting and re-adding the project. Event log didn't seem to show anything notable, other than 'no tasks available for... <insert application name>...'  But overnight I got a slow trickle of WU's, and now it seems to be picking up.

But it seems as though the issue may have been with WCG, as they posted this earlier on their FB page;

Is anyone else having issues getting work units from WCG right now? I've come back from a long hiatus (haven't crunched any since it switched to Krembil), but despite my best efforts, it just won't give me any work. Confused.

18 hours ago, GOTSpectrum said:

and yes, this is a two slot 4070ti

I'd be intrigued to know what temps you get. I've been eyeing up this card precisely because it's two slot  

 Has anyone dabbled with boinc on the new mac M1's? Thinking of upgrading my macbook and just curious of its capabilities. I pretty much only do WCG on boinc.

Update from Prof. Greg Bowman.

4 hours ago, LAR_Systems said:

Personally... on the badge front... I think what you got is the right idea, cause for people on one card, or casually doing this... it's still gonna take a long time.

For the Den-Fi types... why not the Mythic Badge with a number in the corner for the number of times they got it... like rewards in games and stuff.

Yup, sort of like World community grid does...