Naabjenia

Hello, everyone! First of all, I'm sorry if this is the wrong section, as I am not completely sure it's a storage problem or a motherboard problem. Anyway, I have recently bought new PC parts and I used them with an old SATA 3 SSD (a Kingston A400 of 480 GB) as my main drive, and I had no problems with it. However, as time went by, I needed more storage, so I got a new SSD that could make use of what my motherboard offers: a NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD. First problem I encountered was that, when installing it on the PCIe 4.0 M.2 slot, I could not get the computer to POST at all. The fans would spin up at 100% indefinitely. Note that I did not have this problem at all if I put the SSD on the Gen 3 M.2 slot. So I updated the BIOS to the latest version and I actually got it to work on the Gen 4 slot. The problem is that, more often than not, the computer will have a boot failure when I start it up, like the attached image. If the computer sleeps and I turn it on again, it is very likely I will have that problem. Another thing is that it actually takes longer to post than when I used the old SATA SSD as my main drive, sometimes it takes like 10 seconds to actually post before it boots (after that, it is quick). What could be causing this? Here are my PC specs: CPU: Intel i5 11400 Mobo: Aorus Elite B560M RAM: 2x Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB 3200 MHz GPU: GTX 1060 6 GB SSD: WD Black SN850 (WDS500G1X0E) <--- this is the new SSD OS: Windows 11 Pro I have included some CPU-Z screenshots, in case they are relevant. P.S.: it is quite annoying, because until it posts, the fans spin at 100% for like 10 seconds, and I think it could be bad for them. Also, I have not tried this with Windows 10 or other OS, only Windows 11. Thanks a lot!

The H510 seems to be quite a decent case for what I'm looking for. I worry a bit about its CPU temperatures though since I use a Xeon W3690 (which has a TDP of 130 W). Although I also use a Hyper 212 Black Edition CPU cooler, I don't think I would have any headroom for OC in that case (I currently run it at stock speeds). Thanks for sharing this review, it was pretty thorough.

Although rare, it is available and it seems to meet all the criteria! Definitely an interesting option. By the way, do you know if there is any chance of a re-release of the 400Q or 600Q? I fell in love with the 600Q as I set eyes on it! Thanks! That's good to know! Do you know by any chance what are the fans that are already pre-installed in it? I suppose they are Masterfan Pro Airflow, but I'm not sure. I'm asking because I would like to know if they're noisy in the default setup. I have also come across the NZXT H510, which seemed to be interesting. Although I have read that the default setup (only 2 exhaust fans) is quite silent, is it any good regarding temperatures? I heard that case is supposed to work well with negative pressure. Thanks!

Seems to have a lot of airflow, definitely an interesting suggestion and at an affordable price. I'd have to go with the ATX version of this case, though. Thank you! Damn, those Phantek cases look excellent! It's a damn shame I can't find them in Bra71l. Thank you too for your suggestion!

I have found a Cooler Master K500 RGB case on discount, cheaper than the Masterbox 5t. Is it any good? It comes with three fans pre-installed (2 intake, 1 exhaust) and an RGB controller, which is important, since my motherboard (Intel DX58SO) does not have an RGB header. It seems to be a good option, although it looks a bit too gamer-ish for my taste and it doesn't have a solid top panel, in case no fans are being used there. Should I get it or should I spend a little extra to get a CM Silencio S600?

Wow, some of their cases really do look excellent! However, they seem to pretty rare to find in Brazil and are also very expensive here. I edited my main post, as I forgot to specify a budget. Thank you for your input nonetheless! Definitely an interesting case, it seems to have a lot of room in it. However, it appears to be quite rare here in Brazil, and it is also quite expensive here. I edited my main post regarding this matter, as I forgot to specify a budget. Anyway, I found another CM case, that seems to be the little brother of this one you suggested: Cooler Master Masterbox 5t. Is it any good? It is almost half the price of the Mastercase Maker 5t. Thank you too for your suggestion!

Good evening, everyone. I have been looking for a new case for my 10 years old X58 ATX build, for a series of reasons, but the main ones being looks, silence, and refrigeration, as my current setup is ugly, noisy and not so cool, as it only supports two 120 mm fans. I am looking for something that preferably does not look gamer-ish with RGB, but rather professional or discrete. Another requirement is that it should have intake fan filters. With that in mind, while researching the subject a bit, I came across two interesting options: Corsair 600Q and Cooler Master Silencio S600. However, I have seen that the Corsair 600Q, which is the one I liked the most, is no longer produced, and I could not find it anymore for sale. It was quite an appealing option for me because it already came with fans, it had a fan speed controller, it looked professional and it was made with sound dampening in mind. The other option, the Cooler Master S600, also looks pretty nice (kind of a balance between professional and gamer, which is more than fine) and is made with sound dampening in mind. However, it seems that some reviews rate it as a "GPU cooker". That makes me think that I should buy additional Silencio FP120 PWM fans for it, which are kind of hard to find where I live. With that in mind, could you please suggest me some case options? They don't need to be necessarily made with sound dampening material if you could recommend me fans that are good and silent. Another important aspect is that I live in Brazil, so it might be difficult to find products of some brands like Be Quiet. So, if you could stick to the most known brands (such as Corsair and CM), it would make things easier for me. Thanks a lot! EDIT: My bad, I forgot to specify a budget! I'm looking for something that would cost a maximum of US$ 130.00 give or take!

That IS definitely interesting. I have never tried overclocking, but I will give it a shot. Since I will try overclocking, should I change something in my RAM? As I said in my first post, I have some pretty basic RAM. I've also seen something about NVMe in X58 using that specific SSD, it is an interesting possibility. Would that work as the bootable drive? Thank you very much. P.S.: I'll check that forum section which you mentioned in your post.

Thank you for your reply. About some of the other questions: do you know if higher speed memories would be worth it in this platform?

Yes, they're definitely showing their age. However, it was a pretty cheap upgrade for me, as I went from an i7 920 to this Xeon in late 2018. I'm actually a casual gamer, I play mostly singleplayer games. The only games I play that actually benefit from 144 Hz are CS:GO and some of the old Battlefield games (Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3). Since PC parts are quite expensive right now, I just thought that I should try to squeeze some more performance out of my PC. I have another question then: keeping my GTX 1060 6 GB, would I see an actual improvement in games performance if I switched my platform to, say, something based on a Ryzen 5 3600 or i5 10400? Keep in mind that my target is 60-75 fps, which is why I thought about tuning my X58 system. Thank you!

Hello, everyone. I still use an X58 computer and I would like some help to squeeze the maximum out of it. Unfortunately, PC parts are very expensive where I live, so buying a new platform is not an option for now. The specs of my computer are: CPU: Intel Xeon W3690 (6C / 12T) @ 3.46 - 3.73 GHz (stock speeds) CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition Motherboard: Intel DX58SO RAM: 12 GB @ 1333 MHz (3x Kingston KVR1333D3N9/4G) GPU: EVGA GTX 1060 6GB Superclocked PSU: 750 W I've recently seen a few Youtube videos in which gaming performance comparable (inferior, but close, especially in higher resolutions) to that of the Ryzen 5 3600 or i7 8700K was achieved in X58 Xeons through overclocking. So, given the hardware, I have a few questions. They are mostly about gaming performance on this computer. 1) I currently play my games at a resolution of 1920x1080 (mostly at 60 fps, I only play CS:GO at 144 Hz). At this resolution, I suppose the bottleneck caused by the CPU is more severe. Would this CPU, combined with a newer, more powerful GPU, be good for 1440p or even 4K? Just for the sake of it, suppose I paired it with an RTX 2070 Super, for example. Would it perform well for 1440p or 4K @ 60 Hz? 2) How much improvement in FPS (give or take) can I expect from overclocking this CPU? Would it be necessary if playing at higher resolutions, like 1440p or 4K? 3) Talking about overclocking, how much performance improvement could I expect from upgrading my memories from 1333 MHz to 1600 MHz or even 1866 MHz? Is it worth it? 4) My RAM is pretty standard, no heatsink or "gamer" features. Can it be overclocked? 5) Considering newer games and supposing a resolution higher than 1080p, would I need to go from 12 GB of RAM to 24 GB? 6) This platform works best with triple-channel memory. Is there anything specific to look for when buying new RAM or could I just pick three of the same DIMMs? 7) Is the DX58SO suitable for overclocking? Thank you very much for your attention.

I see. I personally have a Dell P2219H monitor (IPS, 1920x1080), which is basically intended for professional use. It runs officially at 60 Hz, although 75 Hz works just fine if you overclock it using nVidia's control panel. The connectivity, colors and the ergonomics are great. However, it is an entry level monitor and perhaps you're looking for something better. Maybe some higher tier Dell monitors would suit you well. As negative aspects of this monitor, I'd say I didn't quite like it for fast paced gaming (like CS:GO), because of the motion blur or ghosting (in Fast Response mode), and I also disliked the lack of FreeSync. There are also some interestingly cheap 4K IPS monitors by LG, but I'm afraid they run at 60 Hz only (you'd have to check it out, maybe their newer models run at higher refresh rates). Maybe a good spot for you would be 1440p monitors, however, they tend to be more expensive than 4K monitors where I live.

Hi. I don't know about the prices in Belgium, but I think maybe you should check out Ultrawide monitors. There are quite a few IPS (accurate colors) models by LG and some of them run at 75 Hz. A 34" 2560x1080 would be roughly the equivalent of a Full HD 27" monitor, while a 29" 2560x1080 would be the equivalent of a Full HD 24" monitor.

Ah, got it. Thanks for the explanation. About FreeSync, I expressed myself poorly. I got a GTX 1060 and the monitor is G-Sync compatible. The reason I regret it is not because of Free/G-Sync itself, but because even with this feature activated, my games feel laggy when playing below 90 fps. But I guess that's because I got used to the feeling of 144 fps @ 144 Hz in CS:GO. When I bought the monitor, I thought FPS below 144 would feel smooth with G-Sync on, that's it.

So, in summary, 60 fps @ 60 Hz feels different than 60 fps @ 144 Hz? Just out of curiosity, could anyone explain to me why? I know it has been said that frames "freeze" until the next one is rendered, but how does that work for a 60 Hz monitor? Wouldn't the frame stay "frozen" for 1/60 th of a second too? I'm asking that, because I have a 144 Hz monitor and I simply cannot play games at 60 fps anymore, even with FreeSync (which is one of the reasons for which I kind of regret buying a gaming monitor). Thanks.

I've recently bought an LG 24GL600F and I can say it is a pretty solid monitor. Please, keep in mind I am no monitor expert, but I'll share some positive and negative aspects of this monitor. Firstly, on the positive side, it is a monitor that does what it promises really well. The 144 Hz refresh rate works fine, the response times are great and, for a TN panel, it actually has some pretty decent colors. It is also G-Sync compatible: I've been using it with my GTX 1060 on DisplayPort. If you have an AMD GPU, FreeSync should work on HDMI as well. There are some things that I dislike, though, but they are quite personal: one of them is that even though the colors are good, they're not as good as an IPS panel (I have a non-gamer monitor next to it, which is IPS, and the colors are much better). Another thing is that it does not have a fully adjustable stand, it only rotates back and forth. And, finally, I must warn you about something you have to keep in mind: ironically, I kind of regret buying a 144 Hz monitor, because I can't hit 144 fps in all games. I bought it mainly for CS:GO, but I also play other games, which are not competitive. I thought that it would be fine to play those games at 60-75 fps using FreeSync, but once you try 144 fps @ 144 Hz, even 75 Hz looks stuttery to you. So, yeah, keep that in mind. Edit: by the way, depending on where you live, there is a version of this monitor with a height adjustable stand, it is called 24GL650F-B.

Hey! Thanks for your reply! I'll definitely check it out.

Anyone? I managed to see that DX58SO actually has an option for UEFI boot, I'm just not sure how well that works and if it's actually useful for this matter. If anyone could help me, I'd be glad. Thanks in advance.

Hello, everyone! I am currently looking to get the best out of an X58 system I've had for 9 years and I need advice. The motherboard I have is an Intel DX58SO, which has 6 SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) ports and that's it, no SATA III ports or M.2 slots. Therefore, the SSD I currently own (Kingston A400 480 GB, SATA III) is connected to one of these ports, which yields about half of the possible performance of that SSD. I was looking for possible ways to work around that issue and I came across expansion cards that are connected to the PCIe slots of the motherboard and have SATA III ports on them. The thing is: which model of expansion card could I use on a DX58SO so that the SSD connected to it is bootable (so that I can install Windows 10 Pro x64 in it) and actually gives me a performance boost? One of the models I came across is the ASUS U3S6, which should be connected to a PCI-E 2.0 x4 slot (by the way: DX58SO has only PCI-E 2.0 slots and below, no 3.0 at all), but I have no idea if it is bootable on a DX58SO, since it is not on the compatibility list given by ASUS. Is there any model of expansion card that could help me do that or any other way to work around this issue? The only PCI-E 2.0 slot currently in use in my motherboard is the primary PCI-E 2.0 x16, for the graphics card. The rest of them (1 PCI-E 2.0 x16, 1 PCI-E 2.0 x4 and 2 PCI-E 2.0 x1) are free. Here are a couple of links that may be useful: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboard-Accessories/U3S6/ https://ark.intel.com/pt-br/products/36888/Intel-Desktop-Board-DX58SO P.S.: if there is a way to use NVMe SSDs on that board, I'd like to know as well. Thank you very much!

Hi, everyone. Just coming back to update the thread for anyone who's looking to do something similar. I have been running the W3690 with Intel's stock cooler on a DX58SO motherboard for a month now, and I've had no problems whatsoever. Highest temperatures I've seen so far, under heavy load, are around 70°C. Thank you all for your help!

Alright, then! Thank you very much for your reply.

Hi there! First of all, this is my first post here, so I apologize in advance if you've seen a thread like this already. Even though I have extensively looked for something like this in Google, I couldn't find a situtation with the exact same parameters, so here it goes. I own an i7 rig since 2010, which has seen a few upgrades since then and it currently looks like this: Intel i7 920 (D0) @ 2,67 GHz Intel DX58SO EVGA GTX 1060 6GB 3 x 4 GB 1333 MHz RAM 500 GB HDD 480 GB SSD 750 W PSU The thing is: where I live, PC parts are usually pretty expensive, and old parts like my CPU and Mobo are pretty rare. Therefore, I am absolutely terrified of overclocking and have never done so, to avoid screwing up my parts and having to find replacements. Therefore, I have always used my CPU and GPU at stock speeds. Anyway, recently I have found some pretty cheap used Intel Xeon W3690 from China on eBay (top seller, pretty well rated) and this is basically the best CPU model I could pair with my mobo, so what I would like to know is: is the upgrade from an i7 920 (2,67 - 2,93 GHz) to a Xeon W3690 (3,46 - 3,73 GHz) worth it? Will I notice a good bit of performance improvement comparing both CPUs at stock speeds? It is important to say that I use my PC mostly for gaming, but I also use it for Solidworks, Photoshop and ANSYS. Thanks for your help! Naabjenia