Its amazing on how looks can be deceiving, a friend of mine has a hp pavillon p7-1007c with a dual core phenom, he always treated it like shit just cuz it looked low end, he destroyed the ram sticks(honestly who does that?) and stripped it completely, i looked around the internet on some info and apparently you can install a six core AMD 1045t and 16 gigs of ddr3 ram... holy f**k...so he has had a sleeper(if you can consider it a sleeper) and he has never even known,so now we are in the process of getting parts for it, he offered me that pc a while back for free and i declined it and i regret doing that but man... never judge a pc by its case