AManWithPlan

My PC: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t9dXQD
 
Dear LTT,
 
I am newly back on the AMD platform, been off since the Bulldozer; was on team Intel with a 5960x. Just put together a new build linked above.
 
I am now on a completely custom water loop with over 1,000 watts of cooling power. The EKWB waterblock on the CPU is using Conductonaut (which I correctly applied) as the thermal "paste".
 
Is this processor known for running hot? Because I'm around 60C at idle (was on 50C back on my Intel processor which had a 140W design compared to my new 105W one; and I was using a Corsair AIO cooler at the time so had no where near this custom loop I have now).
 
I am also getting spikes to 75C when doing simple things like downloading a large file. The pump ramps up per my bios profile as soon as the processor runs hotter, but these spikes are odd, I've never seen them on a processor (usually temperature rises up slowly by 2 degrees or so).
 
My coolant temperature at equilibrium is around 36C, so that is the above-ambient threshold to keep in mind.
 
I've had the processor run as hot as 87C when benchmarking, something I couldn't even get higher than 65C on my old Intel with a weaker cooling solution.
 
I am currently undervolting it to 1.378 with an aggressive PBO2 profile that takes me to around 4,875mhz on the best cores (all achieved with undervolting, not overvolting).
 
Let me know your experience so I can compare, cause reviewers are sitting pretty around 70C or so under load with much weaker cooling solutions (like air only).
 
Aman
 

I don't have an 5950x, running a 5800x.
It is running very hot overall, web browsing can push it to 60C. This seems to be an issue with 5000 series AMD; they are hot commodities! (literally)
I am currently have it at a -0.0875 offset with PBO turned completely off.

Dear Readers,
 
I recently installed an LG OLED C9 television and hooked it up via HDMI to my 2080TI. The television is rated at being able to display 4k at 4:4:4 chroma subsampling (uncompressed) @ 60hz.
 
Unfortunately, I have not been able to get this to work and believe it is a limitation of HDMI 2.0. I have only been able to select 4:2:2 @ 60hz (interestingly the output color format is locked to "limited" as well, with no option for "full").
 
Anyone else with a C9 been able to get different results? The HDR content looks great, but I do notice compression noise/grain in some films which I have that are over 60GB of information and believe it to be a fault of chroma subsampling.

All my drivers (on TV and computer) are up to date.
 
Thanks,
Aman

Reliability and long term storage, also cache size

Dear LTT Forum,
 
I have an i7 5930K processor that was damaged by heat. Currently only physical core 3 is stable (meaning cores 0-2 and 4-5 must be disabled in order for Windows to load. You may also crash during post while trying to disable the unstable cores.

If anyone is interested in this piece of hardware for a project such as delidding a soldered processor, attempting to correct unstable cores through science (read: voodoo magic), or just need a single core for something; please reach out to me.
 
Thanks,
Amanwithplan

@LinusTech @Slick @CPotter

 

The rails ======================



This thread *choo choo*

I sometimes wish there was a website where timings/clock speed combinations are tested on various RAM and the stability results are posted for all to see.

There is no chance at all that custom thermal paste, no matter how expensive, will give you any more than a degree or two in cooling improvement. Even Linus had an entire video on this.

Hello LTT,
 
Like many of you, I look to Linus' reviews of products to help decide my future purchases in tech (along with other review websites I trust, of course). Linus was the reason I bought Sennheiser IE80's (what a difference they make, even though I thought earbuds at that price were ridiculous), a Galaxy S8+, Noctua fans, the list goes on.
 
I was in the market for a new work laptop that I can double as a light gaming machine while I'm away from my home (for things like Heroes of the Storm, maybe catch up on a Telltale Games series, nothing crazy) but I have been disappointed with the overall 2017 and early 2018 line ups. There was always some sort of trade off that I didn't want, great specs but too heavy/bulky, thin and light but throttled, or just too much RGB/gamer-y crap that I don't want to show around the office/clients.
 
After Linus' Microsoft Surface Book 2 review, I thought I had found my new laptop. I heard Linus' complaints about lack of Thunderbolt 3 (a port I have never used), it being non-lappable (though I didn't really have any issue with that), and how the power brick was not enough to power it at max load (never ran it hard enough to achieve this, except synthetically). I can live with these drawbacks for a slick machine I can do work on then double as a gaming device. Nowhere in the review did Linus mention how this laptop is an absolute waste of engineering time.
 
As of this writing, I am processing a return after already exchanging my initial unit at a Microsoft Store thinking, "something HAS to be wrong with my unit, there is no way this left an assembly line like this." Boy was I wrong.
 
I bought the highest end version, only the best for me, I work hard, I deserve it; 16GB RAM, 15" screen, 1TB drive, the works, $3.3k. If you go with the 256GB version of the product, the individual parts/software cost are actually close to 1-to-1 if you were to build a PC with the same specs, which essentially solidified my purchase (I can PM you my cost spreadsheet if you're curious). This is a late 2017 product, I expected for it to AT MINIMUM outperform my existing Asus Zenbook (UX51V) from 5 years ago. It could not even do so in basic Windows functionality.
 
Opening an application takes longer as the i7-8650U tries to decide whether it should Turbo or not, and once the application is open, forget hardware acceleration. Even if you force it at the software level in the Nvidia panel, the 1060 in the base is barely utilized. Sometimes it will turn on, with little to no difference, other times it won't and the fans in the screen rev up because you're doing something exhausting to the computer, ie scrolling down using PgDn in an excel spreadsheet with 7,000 rows. The screen will become hot quite often when you are processing some Excel calculations while downloading email. I have stress tested in AIDA64, at no point did the PC throttle in 30 minutes. This is not a heat issue, it is the inability to properly split tasks between the eGPU and iGPU.
 
If you resize a window, you will get a black box in the space you are resizing to. The computer does not have enough power to draw what should appear in that space, not even for a simple window like Excel, or even a folder. Dragging a window expresses the same issue. The whole experience is sluggish. It was as such on the first unit I received, as well as the new, sealed-in-box replacement I got from a Microsoft Store. I even tested the display unit they had at the store, and questioned staff about it. They were as perplexed as I was. How does Microsoft not understand they are selling this unit for over $3,000?
 
The 9+ hour battery life, I wasn't able to achieve in either unit I had. The first unit went from 95% to 5% in 2 hours of watching 720P YouTube at night at less than 1/2 brightness and the Battery Slider set to battery life (furthest left). The second unit lasted just 2.5 hours in the same type of test, this time from 100% charge in both screen and base. Who is getting 6-7 hours on these review sites? I even turned off GPU acceleration to make sure I wasn't going nuts. This unit is not even enough to watch a decent length film on a plane.
 
Today was the final straw. I awoke the unit from sleep, go into my CEO's office to discuss analytics, and the entire computer is softlocked with an hour glass. Inputting commands, mouse hovering/clicking, CTRL-ALT-DEL does nothing. I let it "process" like this for over 20 minutes, while on a back up laptop (the one I'm trying to replace), ultimately I just held down the power button when presto, the CTRL-ALT-DEL input from 20 minutes ago brings up the lock screen and I resume control over the laptop.
 
I have no idea how the LTT team missed these glaring issues while reviewing the unit. How did they not see that the performance on the laptop (beyond synthetic benchmarking) simply isn't there; it behaves like a bargain bin $400 machine. Either way, buyer beware.
 
If anyone has a recommendation on a good dual purpose laptop, please let me know; I'm thinking 1440P, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Nvidia 1060+, i7-7700+, no throttling, FULL keyboard (I need PgUp, PgDn, and my F keys), and something fairly light and easy.

Rule of thumb: if they're asking for over 3k$ in exchange for a laptop with 16gb of non expandable ram, don't even consider it - clearly the focus is not on making a good computer, nor on making a value product, which means they're making jewelry. If it's ugly too, then it's not jewelry but overpriced trash.
I strongly doubt that, even with gpu prices being what they are right now. I'd like to see the spreadsheet though.
Wow, that's worse engineering than even I was crediting them for. Unless Intel is doing some weird stuff with their new chips this is absurd, especially with the supposed high end ssd.
You can buy old refurbished thinkpads for less than that and those will never give you this sort of issue unless they're broken.

Hello LTT,
 
Like many of you, I look to Linus' reviews of products to help decide my future purchases in tech (along with other review websites I trust, of course). Linus was the reason I bought Sennheiser IE80's (what a difference they make, even though I thought earbuds at that price were ridiculous), a Galaxy S8+, Noctua fans, the list goes on.
 
I was in the market for a new work laptop that I can double as a light gaming machine while I'm away from my home (for things like Heroes of the Storm, maybe catch up on a Telltale Games series, nothing crazy) but I have been disappointed with the overall 2017 and early 2018 line ups. There was always some sort of trade off that I didn't want, great specs but too heavy/bulky, thin and light but throttled, or just too much RGB/gamer-y crap that I don't want to show around the office/clients.
 
After Linus' Microsoft Surface Book 2 review, I thought I had found my new laptop. I heard Linus' complaints about lack of Thunderbolt 3 (a port I have never used), it being non-lappable (though I didn't really have any issue with that), and how the power brick was not enough to power it at max load (never ran it hard enough to achieve this, except synthetically). I can live with these drawbacks for a slick machine I can do work on then double as a gaming device. Nowhere in the review did Linus mention how this laptop is an absolute waste of engineering time.
 
As of this writing, I am processing a return after already exchanging my initial unit at a Microsoft Store thinking, "something HAS to be wrong with my unit, there is no way this left an assembly line like this." Boy was I wrong.
 
I bought the highest end version, only the best for me, I work hard, I deserve it; 16GB RAM, 15" screen, 1TB drive, the works, $3.3k. If you go with the 256GB version of the product, the individual parts/software cost are actually close to 1-to-1 if you were to build a PC with the same specs, which essentially solidified my purchase (I can PM you my cost spreadsheet if you're curious). This is a late 2017 product, I expected for it to AT MINIMUM outperform my existing Asus Zenbook (UX51V) from 5 years ago. It could not even do so in basic Windows functionality.
 
Opening an application takes longer as the i7-8650U tries to decide whether it should Turbo or not, and once the application is open, forget hardware acceleration. Even if you force it at the software level in the Nvidia panel, the 1060 in the base is barely utilized. Sometimes it will turn on, with little to no difference, other times it won't and the fans in the screen rev up because you're doing something exhausting to the computer, ie scrolling down using PgDn in an excel spreadsheet with 7,000 rows. The screen will become hot quite often when you are processing some Excel calculations while downloading email. I have stress tested in AIDA64, at no point did the PC throttle in 30 minutes. This is not a heat issue, it is the inability to properly split tasks between the eGPU and iGPU.
 
If you resize a window, you will get a black box in the space you are resizing to. The computer does not have enough power to draw what should appear in that space, not even for a simple window like Excel, or even a folder. Dragging a window expresses the same issue. The whole experience is sluggish. It was as such on the first unit I received, as well as the new, sealed-in-box replacement I got from a Microsoft Store. I even tested the display unit they had at the store, and questioned staff about it. They were as perplexed as I was. How does Microsoft not understand they are selling this unit for over $3,000?
 
The 9+ hour battery life, I wasn't able to achieve in either unit I had. The first unit went from 95% to 5% in 2 hours of watching 720P YouTube at night at less than 1/2 brightness and the Battery Slider set to battery life (furthest left). The second unit lasted just 2.5 hours in the same type of test, this time from 100% charge in both screen and base. Who is getting 6-7 hours on these review sites? I even turned off GPU acceleration to make sure I wasn't going nuts. This unit is not even enough to watch a decent length film on a plane.
 
Today was the final straw. I awoke the unit from sleep, go into my CEO's office to discuss analytics, and the entire computer is softlocked with an hour glass. Inputting commands, mouse hovering/clicking, CTRL-ALT-DEL does nothing. I let it "process" like this for over 20 minutes, while on a back up laptop (the one I'm trying to replace), ultimately I just held down the power button when presto, the CTRL-ALT-DEL input from 20 minutes ago brings up the lock screen and I resume control over the laptop.
 
I have no idea how the LTT team missed these glaring issues while reviewing the unit. How did they not see that the performance on the laptop (beyond synthetic benchmarking) simply isn't there; it behaves like a bargain bin $400 machine. Either way, buyer beware.
 
If anyone has a recommendation on a good dual purpose laptop, please let me know; I'm thinking 1440P, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Nvidia 1060+, i7-7700+, no throttling, FULL keyboard (I need PgUp, PgDn, and my F keys), and something fairly light and easy.

Hello LTT,
 
Like many of you, I look to Linus' reviews of products to help decide my future purchases in tech (along with other review websites I trust, of course). Linus was the reason I bought Sennheiser IE80's (what a difference they make, even though I thought earbuds at that price were ridiculous), a Galaxy S8+, Noctua fans, the list goes on.
 
I was in the market for a new work laptop that I can double as a light gaming machine while I'm away from my home (for things like Heroes of the Storm, maybe catch up on a Telltale Games series, nothing crazy) but I have been disappointed with the overall 2017 and early 2018 line ups. There was always some sort of trade off that I didn't want, great specs but too heavy/bulky, thin and light but throttled, or just too much RGB/gamer-y crap that I don't want to show around the office/clients.
 
After Linus' Microsoft Surface Book 2 review, I thought I had found my new laptop. I heard Linus' complaints about lack of Thunderbolt 3 (a port I have never used), it being non-lappable (though I didn't really have any issue with that), and how the power brick was not enough to power it at max load (never ran it hard enough to achieve this, except synthetically). I can live with these drawbacks for a slick machine I can do work on then double as a gaming device. Nowhere in the review did Linus mention how this laptop is an absolute waste of engineering time.
 
As of this writing, I am processing a return after already exchanging my initial unit at a Microsoft Store thinking, "something HAS to be wrong with my unit, there is no way this left an assembly line like this." Boy was I wrong.
 
I bought the highest end version, only the best for me, I work hard, I deserve it; 16GB RAM, 15" screen, 1TB drive, the works, $3.3k. If you go with the 256GB version of the product, the individual parts/software cost are actually close to 1-to-1 if you were to build a PC with the same specs, which essentially solidified my purchase (I can PM you my cost spreadsheet if you're curious). This is a late 2017 product, I expected for it to AT MINIMUM outperform my existing Asus Zenbook (UX51V) from 5 years ago. It could not even do so in basic Windows functionality.
 
Opening an application takes longer as the i7-8650U tries to decide whether it should Turbo or not, and once the application is open, forget hardware acceleration. Even if you force it at the software level in the Nvidia panel, the 1060 in the base is barely utilized. Sometimes it will turn on, with little to no difference, other times it won't and the fans in the screen rev up because you're doing something exhausting to the computer, ie scrolling down using PgDn in an excel spreadsheet with 7,000 rows. The screen will become hot quite often when you are processing some Excel calculations while downloading email. I have stress tested in AIDA64, at no point did the PC throttle in 30 minutes. This is not a heat issue, it is the inability to properly split tasks between the eGPU and iGPU.
 
If you resize a window, you will get a black box in the space you are resizing to. The computer does not have enough power to draw what should appear in that space, not even for a simple window like Excel, or even a folder. Dragging a window expresses the same issue. The whole experience is sluggish. It was as such on the first unit I received, as well as the new, sealed-in-box replacement I got from a Microsoft Store. I even tested the display unit they had at the store, and questioned staff about it. They were as perplexed as I was. How does Microsoft not understand they are selling this unit for over $3,000?
 
The 9+ hour battery life, I wasn't able to achieve in either unit I had. The first unit went from 95% to 5% in 2 hours of watching 720P YouTube at night at less than 1/2 brightness and the Battery Slider set to battery life (furthest left). The second unit lasted just 2.5 hours in the same type of test, this time from 100% charge in both screen and base. Who is getting 6-7 hours on these review sites? I even turned off GPU acceleration to make sure I wasn't going nuts. This unit is not even enough to watch a decent length film on a plane.
 
Today was the final straw. I awoke the unit from sleep, go into my CEO's office to discuss analytics, and the entire computer is softlocked with an hour glass. Inputting commands, mouse hovering/clicking, CTRL-ALT-DEL does nothing. I let it "process" like this for over 20 minutes, while on a back up laptop (the one I'm trying to replace), ultimately I just held down the power button when presto, the CTRL-ALT-DEL input from 20 minutes ago brings up the lock screen and I resume control over the laptop.
 
I have no idea how the LTT team missed these glaring issues while reviewing the unit. How did they not see that the performance on the laptop (beyond synthetic benchmarking) simply isn't there; it behaves like a bargain bin $400 machine. Either way, buyer beware.
 
If anyone has a recommendation on a good dual purpose laptop, please let me know; I'm thinking 1440P, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Nvidia 1060+, i7-7700+, no throttling, FULL keyboard (I need PgUp, PgDn, and my F keys), and something fairly light and easy.

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass, I didn't even realise the x34 had speakers. Always use a headset.

I've actually been waiting for a card that smokes my 980 TI SLI setup. So far, a 1080TI only matches the performance, so there is barely an upgrade path for me at the moment (I do not want to continue the SLI track).
 
My next setup will still have two cards, but I will be using one card for multimonitor and rendering while the primary card will drive gaming and the 1440P monitor (don't need 4k, yet, happy with 3440x1440).

Gsynx is extremely useful for 4K 60Hz where it can be hard to drive everything at locked 60 FPS.  It makes games running at 40-59 fps feel smoother and is hugely beneficial.
 
 

Thanks for the benches.
 
Man, you run your RAM slow

I have two 1080ti's and a 4k monitor... I could run some benchmarks if you like - if I remember
 
Witcher 3 is a bit hard to run consistantly. I ran GTA5 on absolute max settings using the inbuilt benchmark last night to do some of my own 16x8x vs 8x8x comparisons.
 
Im playing Mass effect Andromeda right now, everything maxed out on it and im getting high 90% GPU utilization to acheive 60fps @ 4k... on a single 1080ti I get 35fps... SLI on I get 60... scaling is around +80% performance. 
 
Using 3DMark is a BAD comparison as the scaling is near perfrect... firestrike is even worse as its 1080p and the CPU / PCIe / SLI limits are real
 
NOTE: 9xx series scale better in SLI than 10xx series - multi-gpu 980ti tend to beat multi-gpu 1070. its just how it is...
 
specs:
5820k @ 4.75ghz
X99 SOC Champ
32gb ram @ 2800mhz cl13-15-15-28-cr2
watercooled 1080ti FE's @ 2,101mhz
  Valley 4k (Extreme setting @ 4k) min 39.3 max 191.4 avg 91.5       Tom Clancey 4k (every setting maxed) min 49.36 max 61.33 avg 57.25       Metro Last light 4k (every setting maxed with Physx turned off) min 24.54 max 150.74 avg 65       GTA5 4k (every setting maxed) min 21.3 max 141.6 avg 73.26       ROTR 4k (Id have to check settings but eveyrthing was maxed) min   max   avg 41.02  
 
 

Almost all QHD panels are LG, including my Predator X34 (needed for 100hz and Gsync). These are very high quality panels and you will not be disappointed in your purchase in the least.
 
The monitor you bought has a "quickcharge" USB 3.0 port, great for your cell phone at the desk type of aesthetic. If you were truly able to get this monitor for so cheap, good on you.
 
The monitor is essentially LG's commercial production version of the 34UC88-P, which is why you can't find any reviews on it, here is the review from TechRadar: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/lg-34uc88-monitor
 
LG was able to competitively price the monitor since doesn't have Gsync or a Thunderbolt port.
 
Enjoy the monitor!

Microsoft is trying its best to kill off window 7 and 8. 

Wonder how long a 390x and/or 3930k would take to pop the encryption

EVERYONe CRACK IT LIEK AN EGG.
 
I bet it's a dickbutt picture

So even if this is not a cryptography challenge in any way, if you used a short/bad password, it's your fault.
 
Extract the hash (there are tools to do this) and then use Hashcat or oclHashcat depending if you have a strong CPU or GPU, done. Supports dict and bf.

Input all of your specs into PCPartPicker and it will give you your peak wattage. This will not incorporate overvolting/clocking.

Input all of your specs into PCPartPicker and it will give you your peak wattage. This will not incorporate overvolting/clocking.

Confirmed.
 
Check my specs in my profile.
 
I have optimized the the game even manually through its settings files, overridden settings in Nvidia Inspector, forced SLI, AND run my settings in forced-100% load only to achieve 35-ish frames in cities. Outside of cities, sure 100fps stable.
 
There are computers built 7 years ago that run it better than mine though on 32bit hardware.