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TheFriendlyHacker

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  1. I recently(ish) upgraded my PC to Ryzen. Running an MSI B450 with an R5 2600X and 16GB of XPG GAMMIX DDR4 RAM (base clock 2666 MHZ). When using XMP profiles, I can get this RAM up to 2933mhz. Which, realistically is fine. But if I try to manually overclock it - even using the "Try It" RAM OC presets in my BIOS - the system doesn't boot. In fact, it doesn't even post, and the CPU led on the mobo lights up. The only way I've found to get it to boot after this is removing the CMOS battery, then removing and re-seating the CPU. Yes, I have to do both. Just yanking the CMOS doesn't work. Crazy, right? It also might be worth noting that I had some low-end 2133MHZ DDR4 RAM previous to this that did the exact same thing when trying to OC - which implies it's not an issue specific to my exact type of RAM. So my question is...why? Has anybody else ever encountered something like this? Or do you know if there's a way to make it not happen? Obviously, you're going to encounter issues when overclocking things, and that makes sense. But I at least expect the system to try to post and at least allow me to enter the BIOS to undo the settings.
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    System Not Posting after RAM Overclock

    Gotcha. I'll try those settings you mentioned in your first comment. Like I said, the XMP profile works just fine. But I'd like to get the RAM up to 3200mhz. It's possible that this RAM just isn't capable of hitting those speeds...but I'd at least want the system to tell me that in post instead of requiring me to literally take apart the entire computer haha.
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    System Not Posting after RAM Overclock

    When you say "advertised speeds", is that referring to the advertised speed of your RAM? Because mine is advertised to run at 3000mhz, but actually does 2666 out-of-box. It hits 3000 (well, 2933 - close enough) only when you use one of its XMP profiles.
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    Can a slow HDD cause FPS drops?

    As the title states, if a game is running on a 5400 RPM hard drive, could it possibly result in FPS drops? From what I've researched so far, the general consensus is "no, it can't". But I wanted to see what you guys have to say about it. I have a 500GB SSD + 2TB HDD @5400RPM. All of my games are installed on the HDD. Surprisingly, I've seen speeds up to 150MB/s on this HDD (eg, when copying 30GB of music from the SSD to the HDD), which seems impossibly high for an HDD.
  5. I (finally) got my Ryzen setup complete about a week ago, rocking an R5 2600x on an MSI B450 mobo. I've been trying to set up an Ubuntu VM on my machine using VirtualBox. However, I keep getting an error that "AMD-V" is not enabled (I assume that means virtualization in general is not enabled in my BIOS). So I took to the Google to try to find out how to enable it. But. The answers I found either 1: didn't answer the question of "how to enable virtualization on MSI B450", or 2: were for a different motherboard entirely. So. Does anybody here know where in the BIOS on an MSI B450 I can enable virtualization? And does this board even support virtualization?
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    Think my mobo can handle an FX-9590?

    Just to do my due diligence and mark this thread as "solved": Yes, the Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2 can most certainly handle an FX-9590 chip with no problems whatsoever. However, upgrading from an FX-8350 to a 9590 is not recommended IMO, since an overclocked 8350 can match or surpass the 9590. Ultimately, my solution was to upgrade to Ryzen. And ever since then, I haven't had any unexpected troubles with FPS. Although, I think I should answer the question I originally asked, in case anybody else encounters the same problem. Based on what I have read (and experienced, I suppose), modern games often don't take full advantage of FX chips. So even though there is quite a bit of CPU power available, the games just won't use it for whatever reason, leading to significant bottlenecks. Now mind you, the FX-8350 (with my experience) is absolutely capable of running most games fairly well...depending on your standards and budget. I'd still recommend it for those who need a budget PC that doesn't completely suck at gaming. But for those who are wondering why their FX chip isn't performing as well as expected, that's why.
  7. This is totally a "you can just google it" question. But. I have googled it, and I believe I have my answer. But. I wanted to see if anybody here has some first-hand experience with it: Can a Sabertooth 990FX R2 motherboard handle an FX-9590 CPU? Assuming that I'm going to overclock it a little bit. From what I've read, yes it can, even if overclocked. The CPU will be liquid cooled, but I'm still paranoid about frying my motherboard with a CPU that essentially runs like a nuclear reactor. Does anybody here have any experience with this combination of hardware?
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    Can a slow HDD cause FPS drops?

    As it turned out, my CPU was the bottleneck all along. I recently upgraded to Ryzen (R5 2600x to be specific), and almost all of the framerate inconsistencies immediately went away, despite the fact that I'm using the exact same HDD for games. Turns out that (from what I've read), a lot of modern games don't really take full advantage of / work as well with the old FX chips. So even though there was plenty of CPU power leftover to spare, it just wasn't using it. But the Ryzen chip, in addition to being more powerful overall, doesn't appear to suffer from that problem.
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    Think my mobo can handle an FX-9590?

    I finally did it. I've upgraded to Ryzen Like I said, I've been considering doing it for awhile, but this post was kind of the "final straw" if you will. And after selling my AM3+ hardware, I only netted a loss of ~$160. Needless to say, the new R5 2600x handles games (and everything else) much better than yee old FX-8350.
  10. In short, I have an FX-8350 (base clock is 4ghz) on a Sabertooth 990fx. The 8350 is liquid cooled. Currently, I can only get the CPU to be stable at 4.7ghz. 4.8ghz = kinda-sorta stable...but frequent BSOD's. Thermals are almost certainly not the problem. Because even when it's running at 4.8ghz, the temps rarely even exceed 42C. Thing is, I know this CPU can be clocked higher (lots of people get it up to 5ghz). So I'm wondering, what else could cause an overclock to become unstable, aside from thermals? BUS speed: 220mhz CPU Voltage: 1.5v
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    Bottleneck? Or am I missing something?

    I currently have an FX-8350 OC'd to 4.7ghz paired with a GTX 1070 at standard clock. I have noticed that sometimes in some games, the frame rates aren't what you'd expect for a 1070 @ 1080p. Even at "normal" graphics quality, it sometimes struggles to maintain 60FPS, sometimes dipping as low as 35-40FPS. Must be the CPU bottlenecking the GPU, right? Well...I'm not so sure. Because when this happens, I notice that neither my CPU or GPU are being maxed out when this happens. In extreme cases, I will only see ~40-60% CPU usage paired with ~50-60% GPU usage (although, more often, both report higher usage than that). Also noteworthy that none of the individual cores on my 8350 are being maxed out either. And again, this isn't a constant occurrence, but it happens more than I would expect. Thermals don't appear to be a problem either. The 8350 is liquid cooled (never breaks 45C) and the GPU, while air cooled, almost never exceeds 78C. Does anybody have any idea what might be going on? Could it have to do with how certain games interact with the hardware? Could there be some sort of bottleneck that I'm not aware of?
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    Think my mobo can handle an FX-9590?

    Honestly, I think you're right. And I am strongly considering doing this. The main reason I posted this was for the scenario where I still couldn't afford the Ryzen upgrade even after selling the hardware I currently have. In that case, I probably would just throw in a 9590 and wait until I am making enough money for the full upgrade.
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    Think my mobo can handle an FX-9590?

    I do have an R2 Sabertooth. Probably should have mentioned that originally. Think it'll handle it?
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    Think my mobo can handle an FX-9590?

    That is indeed a better question lol. And the answer: because I already have it. Yes, I acknowledge (and agree) that I'd be better off just upgrading to Ryzen. But, I can't afford such an upgrade right now (considering I'd need a new mobo, RAM and CPU). But I can afford to upgrade from my 8350 to a 9590 (judge me as you will). Given some time (when I get a better-paying job), I will eagerly upgrade to Ryzen. But for now, I'm going to have to stay on AM3.
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    What can cause overclocks to fail?

    Lol, I rushed into it before seeing your response. Aka, I set everything to base speeds and then set the CPU multiplier for 4.7ghz. I then increased the BUS speed. With that, I was able to get my system (mostly) stable at 4.9ghz - which I have never been able to pull off before. I suppose I should go back and try it your way and see if I can get even better results. Because given my setup, I don't see why it *shouldn't* be able to hit 5ghz.
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    What can cause overclocks to fail?

    Ahh. So essentially, set the CPU multiplier get the CPU at 4.7ghz at base settings, and then increase the BUS speed until the CPU is at my desired clock speed?
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    Bottleneck? Or am I missing something?

    Damn, that's unfortunate to hear. I've seen other people say similar things, but not to the same depth as what you said. I guess my only options are to either find a way to increase the clock speeds of the 8350 (and hope that it makes a difference in these games) or just deal with it until I eventually upgrade to Ryzen. Thank you for the useful information!
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    Can a slow HDD cause FPS drops?

    Ahh. Maybe that's it. Many games I play will have frequent stutters/fps drops when rendering a new part of the world (especially FarCry 5 and New Dawn). When this happens, neither the CPU or GPU are even close to being maxed out. Think it could be because of the hard drive?
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    Bottleneck? Or am I missing something?

    True. I would prefer a stable 60. Like, I don't even mind turning on v-sync and capping it at 60 (which I am currently doing). But when it frequently drops from 60 to 50, then back to 60, then down to 45, etc, it's not so nice haha
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    Bottleneck? Or am I missing something?

    I have tried that with several games, and it does not appear to make a big difference Well, it does make a small difference with a few games. But for the most part, nothing major. The game I've had the most issues with is Far Cry: New Dawn. And in the case of this game, if I increase the graphics settings, it does indeed lower the FPS. Which I suppose means that, at least in the case of New Dawn, it's not a CPU bottleneck. Even on Low settings, I very often get serious FPS drops, even on Low settings.Considering how new that game is, maybe that specific case is just a matter of it not being fully optimized. I do have the same issue with other games though, just to a lesser extent. Where the FPS will suffer, but neither the CPU nor GPU seem to be pushing themselves as hard as they can to keep up with the game.
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    Bottleneck? Or am I missing something?

    1.41v. Also, I lied about the clock speed - it's running at 4.6ghz, not 4.7. Which probably doesn't make a significant difference haha. Running a Sabertooth 990FX mobo as well.
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    Bottleneck? Or am I missing something?

    But how? The CPU is not being maxed out, nor are any individual cores...
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    FX 8350: OC Debugging

    Thanks for the info! I'll give it a try later today. I've got that liquid cooler for my CPU, and 3 120mm fans in the case for everything else (not to mention, the 2 120mm fans on the water cooler which blow air into the case...not sure if that's good or bad lol). I'll take a shot at increasing the BUS speeds and see what I can get away with. Unless I happened to get the runt of the litter with my 8350, it really should be able to clock higher than 4.7ghz. Especially considering the liquid cooler + the mobo I have.
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    FX 8350: OC Debugging

    I have a system with an FX-8350, and recently got ahold of a 240MM liquid cooler (Corsair H100i Pro if it matters). TL;DR - I want to overclock my CPU more. Despite temps being very low, I have absolutely no stability at 4.8ghz. But 4.7 is (mostly) fine. Is there any way to tell what specific setting in my BIOS is causing the instability? I don't think it's thermals (even at 4.7, it never breaks 45C under load). Longer version: Ideally, I want to get my CPU up to 4.9-5.0ghz. With the liquid cooler, it's perfectly stable at 4.6 and mostly stable at 4.7. 4.8+ = insta-RIP. Temps are not a problem - even under load at 4.7, it never exceeds 45C. I have a Sabertooth 990FX mobo + 750W PSU, and have tried voltages ranging from 1.4 to 1.53 - no luck at all. The BSOD's I get don't really tell me what aspect of my OC is causing it to crash. Do any of y'all know a way to get some more specific info about what settings may be causing the instability? Are there any 3rd party programs that might do so? Any help would be greatly appreciated
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    FX 8350: OC Debugging

    Hmm, that's interesting - I never tried that approach. So basically, increase the BUS speeds somewhat and decrease the CPU multiplier to get the same result? My VRM peaks at 51C under load (and by "under load", I mean running Far Cry 5 at ultra settings. Which is definitely not the same as a synthetic load that makes it go balls-to-the-walls, but it's fairly realistic for what I'd actually do with the CPU) Also, I have 1333mhz memory that I've OC'd to 1600, but can't do any higher (system doesn't even try to boot if I go above 1600)
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