Winter_German

I would really like to know where you are finding an 8700 for $300 new, as pcpartpicker has them listed at $425 at the lowest and the cheapest in stock is $453. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/C9hj4D/intel-core-i7-8700-32ghz-6-core-processor-bx80684i78700 Whereas the 9700 is as low as $442 in stock. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/L6vbt6 Even if it was $20 more, I'd rather be on the newest gen. And I only bought the i3 because at the time it was all I needed. I'm in no need of "recovering assets." Chances are it'll go to a friend as an upgrade or I'll keep it as a backup. Thank you for the answer. And thank you for the info about the VRM. I'm hopeful that it'll be okay.

Trust me, that was the first thing I did. I was mostly unsure about what it would mean for my i3 as their website was unclear on that. I was hoping that the update would mean I could still use 8th gen if I needed to. Also the 9700 is currently cheaper anyway. I guess I should rephrase the question then. If I update to the newest bios version, will I be able to keep using my i3, and have the option to install the 9700? Or will 8th gen no longer work and only 9th gen be supported?

I'm currently running an i3 with the MSI Z370-A Pro and I was looking to upgrade to an i7-8700. Now I'm noticing the 8700 is harder to get now with 9th taking over, and it actually costs more too. I would like to use a 9700 but I'm a little worried about how to go about it. What I've seen from MSI seems to say as long as I'm running a certain BIOS version then it'll work no problem. Is this the case? And if so does that mean on the same BIOS version I can run 8th or 9th gen? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks for the quick replies, but for some reason it seems to have resolved itself.

Hi, I just installed a new Samsung 860 Evo 1TB SSD in my desktop as a game drive and for some reason Samsung Magician is saying it isn't supported. So far I've had no other issues. It's the same as my boot drive so I don't see why it wouldn't be supported. I'd appreciate any help with this.

I'm currently in the process of getting my case replaced and I'm trying to store every component as safely as possible. Is leaving the CPU in the motherboard and just putting the motherboard in its anti-static bag okay?

A lot of you helped me out before with which mode I should run these fans in, but since switching to PWM mode the ML120 I use as an exhaust fan is running at 2600 rpm when set to 100%. Is it normal for a PWM fan to run 200 rpm above it's advertised speed?

So I turned XMP on and just set my SA voltage to 1.16 V and my IO to 1.11 V. My memory is running at 2933 at 1.36 V. I don't have any warning coming up anymore, but does this sound like a safe configuration? There's no chance I'm undervolting anything right?

Awesome, thanks! I'll give it a try when I get home.

I've been looking around for some time now and can't find any way to change the speed manually. I'm pretty sure I can tweak the timings but I haven't seen anything for speed. Any specific spot I should looking? I feel like it's in BIOS but I didn't see much there other than the XMP button.

If it might actually be closer to 35 or 40%, that would make a lot of sense as it was running at 1250 rpm while the 50% is supposed to be about 1400 rpm.

It's just strange that the fans wouldn't run at the proper rpm.

It was just weird that only the rear one changed, and it wasn't running at its true 50% when I set it there.

I was fiddling around with some BIOS settings and set my case fans to the PWM mode. When I went into Windows and checked my speeds, my rear fan was running lower than it usually does at 50%. I set the mode back to the default DC mode, and everything went back to normal. Im now wondering, while DC mode is giving me the correct speeds for my fans, is it possible my motherboard is using voltage control instead of PWM control? I would think that using DC mode on a PWM fan would damage it, but I'm not sure. Any info or opinions would be appreciated. My motherboard is an MSI Z370 A-PRO and my case fans are Corsair ML120 Pro White LED (rear) and Corsair ML140 Pro White LED (front).

So today I decided to try using my RAM to its full potential, as I've let it run at 2400 MHz for almost a year now, despite the fact it's 3000 MHz (Team T-Force Delta RGB). I jumped into BIOS (CLICK BIOS 5 on MSI Z370 A-PRO) and enabled XMP, then went back into Windows. Everything looked good at first, with my RAM running around 3000 MHz at 1.36 V (only 0.01 V above the voltage it has listed on PCPartPicker). I then clicked on the full voltage list button by accident, but noticed some values were in red. Looking close it was my CPU IO and CPU SA voltages. They were between 0.15 and 0.20 V above the safe level, and quite higher than default. I set them to default and went back into BIOS to check if there was anywhere to set these lower on startup, and I couldn't find anything. Once back into Windows they were high again, so I returned to BIOS and disabled XMP. When I started up again, the voltages were back to default. The only thing I can think of that might cause this (but I'm unsure because I don't know if it has impact on XMP), is that I haven't updated my BIOS in a long while. I really don't want to set my voltages every time I boot up because I'm scared I'll forget about it and wear down my motherboard. Any help or tips would be appreciated.