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K1ng

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  1. just make sure you have the most up to date mobo bios that really does help ram compat. My 3200 didnt want to run at 3200mhz at all on my 2600. On my 3600 it did ok but after the latest bios update it auto sets to 3200 and runs great so improvements come with time.
  2. well i will say as far as ram pickyness a 1600af is prob more picky than a 2400g. and your mobo will matter to. I have had ram compat issues but most really do work now but you may not get the rated mhz out of it. I have a 3200mhz dom plat kit i use and in reality gaming if i let my pc not xmp the mem it sets it to like 2132mhz vs 3200 and the performance dif is not that big esp in gaming. So if you get ram thats rated 2666 base no xmp i think you will be fine no matter. But i really would if you could spend the extra $15 to $20 on the corsair. But v-color i know works on a 2200g and 2600
  3. tbh i have ran both side by side and have seen no difference. The only difference i see is there is more stuff on hwinfo i need to hide so i can see the important stuff in one screen lol even with a 4k monitor
  4. i was gonna reccomend those as well but they didnt pop up i have seen them around If you want really budget you can go here and buy two single sticks https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YP6CW8P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  5. i was seeing alot of people hitting like 70+ and i have never seen mine go above 62 maybe 63 no matter what i have been doing. I even had it OC to 4.2ghz with boost still enabled so it never would drop from 4.2. In fact i actually got the x only for the extra tdp not the extra base clock because i assumed tdp will allow me more headroom to boost and oc if i wanted. My 2600's did not do nearly as good on cooling nor speed
  6. tbh ram is at a good price right now and https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=16gb+ddr4&qid=1591992397&sr=8-3 is probably only $5 to at most $10 more than the cheapest but worth the extra for the CL you get that a cheaper ram prob would not.
  7. so is this right? i have tried several different programs and actually perfer hwmonitor but used hwinfo cause i know its most popular here. I can run the test longer later but i have before on hwmonitor and ryzen master and all show the same.
  8. Dude those are sweet especially if you love high end audio and horns like the crazy stuff B&W has done with horns
  9. tbh unless you do gfx design and or a pro gamer i wouldnt drop 1500 on a new monitor period. A 980ti should be fine for a game like league even in 4k but tbh if you are looking to add a 3rd monitor i would still consider a gpu upgrade around the corner. You are getting about 1070 performance which is still decent but even games like league with updates will eat at your fps quick once you go to 4k. I would say if currently in league you can run it at 4k with your required refresh rate another monitor might eat 10fps but that also depends on your cpu too and the cycles it needs to complete to keep up. If you are running something amd FX level or less i would stop with the monitor and start considering time for a full pc update. For one or two 1080p or even 1440p monitors at even 144hz it should be fine for a game like league but i feel you are borderline even with an esports title. On top of that your vram is what 6gb which is again might be sufficient for league but between that and the windows you think you could open and use with multiple 4k montiors it wont be. Again if you just play league and you dont make money playing it forget a $1500monitor you could probably build a better pc outright for that cost unless you are running a 6700k or equivalent/better cpu. And frames win games not necessarily refresh rate or resolution. So IMHO if i had to choose between 4k/144hz or 300+FPS i would take 300+FPS period at 60hz. And if i had to choose between a 3rd 4k monitor (mind you i have a 4k and a 1080p 144hz on my Gtx1080) i would still choose a gfx card update if $1500 is your legit budget. Get a sub $300 27" 1440p 120/144hz dell monitor and call it a day. If i made money gaming maybe i would pick a monitor or something else for frivolous needs but a better gpu is never a bad choice esp if you are already 2 generations behind. Just cause it can keep up with legacy titles does not mean next years titles will play nearly as nice with a 980ti. I hit the same wall with a HD7950 where it was amazing up until a point where even mhz and mem wise it may match a 1050 or 1060 but performs no where near as well unless i just play old games which eventually will be patched to support new hardware better anyway.
  10. Ok that was a great and helpful answer mariushm. I was sure it was (for the most part safe) as i have done this for many years on cheap janky fun builds. And my sons 2200g has been running just fine with to me no noticeable performance loss with a 255w dell oem psu(not sure what manufacturer i was just sure 250w was plenty for a 2200g with one m.2 keyboard, mouse, and gamepad and maybe ocassional other peripherals. I was tempted to try a 2600 or 3600x but then it would of been alot of work especially without the time or equipment to properly check and the time to run ALL the benchmarks. So essentially kinda like my assumption if you do not overload the wattage of the psu and the psu is not poorly made everything will function just fine. And on newer psu i would assume that if you did over draw power the psu would probably just shut off before any damage is done if it is detectable like over temperature in likely areas of failure. (and this is if you can find a even marginally quality psu made in 2019 with just a 20pin mobo and 4pin cpu)
  11. But will it draw more power? Will the motherboard tell its only a 20pin and a 4 pin and limit its consumption?
  12. ? Im just asking what the over all effects are if they have been tested? Like take a cpu and bench it with a full 24pin and 8pin power for mobo and cpu and test it with a 20pin and 4pin psu. For say an average user who is not overclocking would there be any disadvantages?
  13. Just curious and cant find any where that test the actual effects of running a motherboard designed for 20+4 pin power and 8pin cpu power on just a 20pin psu and 4 pin cpu psu. I know it works fine even on up to a ryzen 2200g it may work on better cpu and setups but i have not tested that. But what i am unsure on is the actual over all performance difference if any. And if there is and it is dependent on system load at what point does it matter and is it even motherboard dependent? I know cpu overclocking can be cut short by not powering the cpu but im talking just straight plug and play performance no tweaks. Would be a interested Tech Quickie but not sure it could hold up for an entire dedicated video unless you did a gauntlet of mobo and psu and cpu testing.
  14. Yeah there alot of reasons to justify the value. Alot of amd fanboys will hate it but they really dont even compete for the same market ever. If amd had a physx and solid nvenc alternative that worked then yeah they could be closer compared but those features alone although not used by everyone are enough to justify prob a $100 dif also even though amd may win some games over nvidia in fps more often then not the lows are worse on amd so amd may peak much higher in some games which makes your "avg" look great but in my experience buying the cards and using them amd drops to much further lows which is way more jarring while gaming (imagine going 120mph then dropping to 30mph vs going around 100mph and maybe dropping to 60 you will still notice both but i garaute the drop of 90mph will shake you up much more than a drop of 40mph, thats what your frames do and it gets even worse for both sides in SLI/Xfire setups). Amd has its place and more often then not its for people who are not looking for the best quality just the best "bang for buck" or cheapest thing that can do just what they need. Also amd refreshes its cards way to often the 480 and 580 are just bios updates so dont think amd doesnt cost more they are just better at hiding where they keep their profit margin. Nvidia makes great hardware and amd is just maybe maybe getting back into the swing but they do not manufacture their own hardware so licensing cost for warehouse time vs actually owning a production facility make a big difference. Its like hand crafted bugatti vs production formula ford/chevy insert mass prod car company here. You get a product by amd which is not bad but in real world in every aspect it will NOT be the same quality nor offer the same features. Best way to look at buying a gfx card is do you PERSONALLY want what it offers if not look elsewhere. But besides the low low end of gfx card which amd is lucky there is a lull in performance demand in games amd does not make anything high end and imho most thier gfx cards will be outdated if not by release date but within a couple years without constant refresh. So while a rx 470 might not be worth considering today a gtx 1070 is still a solid investment at a similar price point.
  15. Yeah you can get a good 250 gb ssd for like $30 and it will even be m.2 just at sata III speed.
  16. Yeah 3200g will be fine but imho if you can grab a R5 2600 for around the same price i would do that. You dont need all those cores for gaming but it does help some like apex legends and battlefield games. when compared to the 2200g or 3200g. But a 2600 will offer a much better user experience if they ever want to do more than one thing at once.
  17. Def limit your ingame fps lock it at 60 and if your game doesnt get above 60fps on its own then lower gfx settings. You need that extra power to help even with 10 series cards its just the way the encoder tends to work unless you use the "new" nvenc but imho at this point its hard to get a quality stream on a single pc with an I5 period unless the pc is dedicated to streaming or again you have a 10 series or even better rtx card with turing. I just spent about 8 hrs yesterday perfecting a stream on a R3 2200g and a R5 2600. I can tell you i can def get you a quality stream on the i5 if it is 3rd gen or newer but cant promise it will remain while gaming even using NVenc unless you play more slow paced titles. And again the games you play will make a difference> If you can give us your detailed pc specs CPU RAM VIDEOCARD Also if you can snip an image of your Obs settings for stream output and the video tab to see if you are scaling and if you are using any filtering. But something you will have to live with either way is more than likely you will be LUCKY if you can stream at 720 60fps with nvenc even with ANY i5 on the same machine you game on. You will likely have to chop resolution and also make sure your canvas matches your output. And prob go to 30fps. Cpu usage is not always the best way to determine the issue with obs. EDIT: I just saw the part where you said you are using two pc i can def get you a better quality stream on your pc for streaming using x264 than using nvenc and will be happy to help hit me up through pm or post/send me the information above and i will get you there. I would also like to know what version of OBS you are using and what else the pc is handling at the same time Ex. Watching/monitoring your own stream handling chat handling 2nd party overlay services like streamlabs ect. auido devices and camera devices and method of sending stream video to your pc. If you would even be willing to take a snip of your task manager to show me all relative running task's on the pc while you stream would help alot. If i were to give you a general set that should work again if you have an i5 from 3rd gen and on and is at least 3.4ghz base clock or above VIDEO SETTINGS Base/Canvas 1280x720 Output/Scaled 1280x720 Downscale filter Bilinear With Downscale filter only add those in right before you are ready to adjust bitrate down FPS type Common Common Fps Value 60 OBS OUTPUT SETTINGS BITRATE OK so try a higher bit rate first because that means your cpu has to do less work to compress the image which will give you better quality overall. Essentially if you drop your bitrate low but your cpu does not have the power it will just look blocky and you wont be able to see anything so whats the point. IMHO try 7000 YES 7,000 first work your way down in incriments of 500 to find what your bandwith can handle and what point it looks good as possible. But do not work down unless A: Your stream just wont show at all or B:Your bandwith upload limit will not permit. or C : You have got all other settings tuned and are just wanting to now lower bandiwith until your cpu cant compress without quality loss. With that said on my 2200g i have it settled at 4500 and feel that is my sweet spot yours may vary ENCODER x264 no question unless for some reason you cant make it work dont use nvenc x264 on very fast is still comparable and even at times better to nvenc at the same bitrate again unless you are using rtx cards ENCODER PRESET VERY FAST we will add features to refine the video as needed individually ADVANCED ENCODER SETTINGS / CUSTOM ENCODER SETTINGS These will be added in the order they are listed and some will be explained. If you can run these all it will be essentaily fast or medium encoder preset level. we dont expect to get there but we can add some effects in order to put quality at balance with your cpu and there will be some personal judgment involved in what you want to look better for your stream. 1: Keep Threads at 4 as that is all you will have with an i5 and keep that setting in place no matter what. 2: rc-lookahead on very fast stock i beleive is 20 so work your way up from 20 in increments of 10 all the way up to 80 to see at what point your pc can not handle it. Again you can copy and paste this and just then cut everthing but Threads and Rc-lookahead then adjust your lookahead value then add the rest one by one Threads=4 rc-lookahead=80 ref=2 subme=6 mixed_ref=1 trellis=1 chroma_qp_offset=-2 I have not tested adding any of those extra settings on a 2200g but there is a possibility you have an i5 that may be able to handle some of those settings Alot of this i have learned from Eposvox videos and just have copied from my recent test using a R5 2600 as a dedicated pc
  18. another vote for the 502 as i have a friend with all razer gear and the keyboard i can say is solid just absurdly large. But the mouse felt delicate and i as a claw grip can not understand how those tiny mice fit in peoples hands comfortably i end up with bad hand cramps in the middle back of my hand from holding the sides during movements, on top of that they seem to have no grip and again the switches on logitech are omeron (SP) tend to be rated for much longer lifespans and total clicks. And the software for the mice trumps razers mice software options.
  19. im all about ASTRO A40 and above but mainly A40 you can grab refurbs of amazon and ebay for $35 roughly and all you need is a stereo 3.5mm to connect them to any pc. YES THEY HAVE REMMOVEABLE/REPLACEABLE CABLES But imho a A40 TR Mixamp is a great accomplice but not required. Running optical digital DTS from your pc to the dac then out to your headphones on pc imho is the best way to experience them. Yes senheizer are better headphones and corsair voids/steelseries are a cheap entry. BUT if you want to evolve your audio with a cheap entry and still have a competitive edge in GAMING A40 are still near the top of the list. My cream but not everyone crop per say. But the fact you can get a great headset in great condition used for $35 speaks volumes in price and also the demand. I dont see people looking for aged logitech headsets but people still buy gen1 refurb a40 for a reason. Second the Dac/Mixamp is a good investment on its own just because of its EQ filter profile ability and on top of that seperate audio source integration. You know a40's have a seperate set of headphones in them just for seperating voice from game audio. A COMPLETE different set that is indipendently controlled and inputed. So you can have the usb dac handle voice while your On board or Sound card handle in game via usb or optical digital. You have a PHYSICAL dial to adjust the balance between the two and a master volume. You have option for true dolby via a button and 4 pre loaded but changeable EQ presets. There are many positives but tbh the mixamp takes the cake. Any 3.5mm aux jack set of cans will work amazing with the mixamp which can be the most intregal part in a PC gamers set up. If you ever plan on streaming the ability alone for audio seperation is a must have. I can go on and on about the a40 but i can say there is not much you can type about many other headsets without sounding like a badly written pcmag review.
  20. I think this sadly just comes down to a joint effect of apple itself and the general market consensus umbrella-ing the term virus into any exploit. Like anyone who can make a .bat file in 1999 was a hacker... Apple has "dummed down" the consumer intelligence of modern terms by just "streamlining" the os to a point a toddler cant mess it up. So in effect if they want to go after LTT for libel they have alot of ground themselves to cover on re-educating the market they prey on to the reality of what they say vs actual reality.
  21. Glad to hear sorry i didnt reply sooner to help i had the flu and didnt even get on my pc for days. Pc can be weird sometimes. What i assume may have happened is the ram although not specifically compatible ryzen mobo typically have a method to test timings and speed until they find a compatible solution. It may have ended up finding one if you had tried to turn it on and just left it on for a really long time.
  22. So as the title says i have an issue where randomly Origin in game will not work and it will say it is disabled. I will still get all the pop up notifications but i cant click any of them even if i alt-tab. Then some times it will work just fine. I tried a ton of stuff like even using a cc cleaner software that EA even recommends (it hurt me a little inside to download that stuff and use a "registry cleaner"). I tried fullscreen vs borderless vs window mode in games. Nothing specifically fixed it but it just seems random when it will work and when it will decide to stop. Anyone else have this issue? Probably just an EA Origin issue and nothing i can do much about.
  23. not seeing an error just hdd smart is disabled. Overheating or bad power supply is most likely the cause for instant shut down. If the pc is off for a long time will it get further in boot? if so it is 99.9% heat related. Only other thought would be if he Overclocked the CPU too far and caused an issue there or the mobo but that is much less likely.
  24. I got a few things you should test. First make sure you are already on the input on the tv before the pc is ON. Now take out the gfx card to test the onboard hdmi and see if you get anything there. If you do then you know your tv can accept the signal and your ram is good and cpu and mobo are properly booting. If not it still could be resolution issue but most modern mobo UEFI "bios" will display at resolutions dependent to the display. Either way if you get a picture or not then try again in the same fashion but with the video card. If you have a DVI to HDMI use that even some cards and pc on first boot want the dvi for some odd reason or it just is more likely to send the signal there faster. But test every hdmi(prob just 1 or 2) on the video card and just make sure you shut off the machine every time you switch the cable> if that doesnt work i would try to borrow another monitor to test but i would lean to checking your ram seating and make sure they are compatible and plugged in all the way. Ram issues often cause absolutely no display
  25. off top of my head a good build would be ryzen 2600 16gb ram and a gtx 1050 will do but the gfx card can be upgraded the cpu and ram will be plenty for that. Thats at least the budget option>
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