Eric904P

Updated build then https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Eric904P/saved/xNvNQ7 PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Asus - ROG Strix Z370-I Gaming Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($178.64 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($274.00 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital - Black NVMe 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($129.89 @ OutletPC) Storage: Western Digital - Blue 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.89 @ OutletPC) Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.89 @ OutletPC) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($794.98 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design - Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case ($63.06 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit (Purchased For $0.00) Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140mm Fan ($21.75 @ Newegg) Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140mm Fan ($21.75 @ Newegg) Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($29.90 @ Amazon) Total: $2205.72 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-28 23:48 EDT-0400 I could even go with just a Hyper 212 EVO for cooling and be just fine, rather than spending double that on water cooling. Its a tight fight, but works.

So this is a follow-up to my thread about looking for a gaming laptop for my dad... (see here for original thread) after showing him his "ideal" laptop is a $6,000 workstation, he decided on wanting a gaming PC plus a weaker laptop. However, he was worried about building an full ATX tower since that is too big and bulky to travel with him on extended trips in his 5th wheel trailer. So small form factor easily travel but 4k gaming is the requirements. My solution to that is a badass small form factor PC. Let me throw out the custom build I have designed so far, as well as some pre-built options that might be a good choice as well. My build so far: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant Type Item Price CPU Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor $309.99 @ Amazon CPU Cooler Corsair - H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $89.89 @ OutletPC Motherboard Asus - ROG Strix Z370-I Gaming Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard $178.64 @ Amazon Memory G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $274.00 @ Amazon Storage Western Digital - Black NVMe 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $129.89 @ OutletPC Storage Western Digital - Blue 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $149.89 @ OutletPC Video Card Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Mini Video Card $704.98 @ Newegg Case Azza - Z Mini ITX Tower Case $63.84 @ Newegg Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.99 @ Newegg Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit Purchased For $0.00 Case Fan Noctua - NF-A12x15 PWM 55.4 CFM 120mm Fan $19.95 @ Amazon Case Fan Noctua - NF-A12x15 PWM 55.4 CFM 120mm Fan $19.95 @ Amazon Case Fan Noctua - NF-A12x15 PWM 55.4 CFM 120mm Fan $19.95 @ Amazon Keyboard Corsair - Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard $139.99 @ Amazon Mouse Logitech - MX MASTER 2S (Black) Wireless Laser Mouse $72.99 @ Amazon Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $2293.94 Mail-in rebates -$30.00 Total $2263.94 Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-28 22:39 EDT-0400 Im throwing in the 3x Noctual 120x15mm fans to help with space and noise, they are 10mm thinner than most but perform nearly as well. So the big questions are these: 1- is there a case that is a small form factor that fits a 240mm radiator while allowing the other parts? Power supply could be changed, but really I wanna keep most the same. 2- can I use some tubing and connectors to connect two 120mm AIO radiators to create a Frankenstein solution? 3- can i get better cooling using a small form factor Noctua cpu cooler instead? Other options: Noctua NH-L9x65 or NH-L12S 4- will just one 120mm rad be good enough for the 4k gaming he wants to do on this? 5- any other changes suggested to make this happen? Pre-built options: http://a.co/d/0V9IRr6 https://www.asus.com/us/Tower-PCs/ROG-G20CB/ https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856173144 http://a.co/d/agNpQNJ http://a.co/d/4dvVLCY http://a.co/d/6ERF3Ai https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA57X8582974 https://www.asrock.com/nettop/Intel/DeskMini GTXRX (Z370)/index.asp

I have suggested the build a desktop thing to him as well, but he really wants an AIO system. He's hoping something will come out around the holidays that meets his needs, or one of the ones that are close but not quite go on sale and he can find another solution for the really high end gaming. Thanks for those recommendations, Ill definitely check them out! Huge thank you for finding those, I think that's exactly what he wants. Ill pass along the rest of that info as well, the heating issues are definitely a big deal. I think the TB3 bottlenecking may just be a sacrifice made, he'd look into the performance of that in-depth before a purchase... if you get max of 1060 level performance 4k games wont run like he wants however. I still think 2 systems solve his needs the best (gaming rig + decent laptop).

Like 5,000 USD probs? Its nothing hard set, my dad is a retired PhD holder so hes got money to blow if he sees the need. That being said, I doubt he would see a need in a 10,000$ machine, but 2-3k would be quite doable, or even 5,000 if its brand new top of the line that fits everything I mentioned.

Im in Florida, USA but long as it can ship here its fine. Weight and size shouldnt be an issue, hes not gonna be using it on his lap almost ever. Any time he would use it would be at a desk or on a table of some kind. Battery life just needs to be like 5 minutes, again given his use he really just wants a desktop that is easier to move between places, without carting a monitor and keyboard. All places I can think of would be stationary with a power source right next by.

Yeah I know, hence why the solution Im thinking is eGPU unless there is something Im not aware of. yeah thats the closest I can find to what he wants. I could find a more powerful laptop sure, but the touchscreen is a big deal-breaker for him.

So my dad is wanting to get himself a new laptop, and he has a few fussy points that need to be met: - 4k TOUCH screen - highest end card possible, prefer 1070 or 1080 (1050, 1050ti, or 1060 or similar arent what he wants) - keyboard with numpad He does want to game on this, specifically 4k flight simulators at the highest frames possible. He wants it to be as future-proof as possible, and money isnt much of an issue. It will be hard to justify 10k on a machine, but a couple thousand isnt out of the question at all. Ive found a number of laptops with 2/3 of these points met, but not all. Either the graphics card is a 1050ti (but everything else is met) or its a kickass 4k laptop, just no touchscreen. So far my best finds are: Asus Zenbook Pro 15 line - has 1050ti however Dell XPS 15 line - also has 1050ti HP Spectre x360 15t - has RX Vega M, little weaker than 1050 So is there any laptops Im missing that yall are aware of? Something that meets those needs that is coming out soon with i9 processor? The other option is an external GPU with one of those laptops mentioned in the list above, but will the thunderbolt 3 handle 4k gaming at 60-90fps? Is there a way to custom build one of those enclosures with custom parts? Whats the best one on the market, or one that I could just buy with a weaker card at a cheaper price and slap a 1080ti in? Let me know what solutions yall think would work best for this.

Cheap hosting? Check out forums online for cheap services, I use both Litehost.net and shockhosting.net for cheap web hosting. I have a website up on shockhosting for like 5.99 every 3 months or so I think, so around 24$ a year. Litehost changed owners so idk if Id go back to them before I check up on the impact of that, but it was even cheaper with a code off (like 0.50$ a month) Shockhosting just has a simple cpannel setup, you can just use the file manager to upload your project files and edit them in the browser using the built-in text editor. It supports databases and phpmyadmin, as well as email accounts. Great for projects like you are talking about.

I will take this on when Im back from class Really this just promotes the sloppier coding I checked some of my other projects and one is at like 108 lines with GOOD formatting and full if statements... if I butcher that down as much as I can I bet I can get a lot more lol There was another trick I found for parsing strings on to the end of ArrayList individual strings in VB.net Basically you use the function String.Join to combine the strings with a unique separator after the wanted suffix on the string (plus one more for the last string) then use String.Split on this new string to return it to an array. There are a few other casts inbetween, but it can all be done in ONE line, something that no other built in function lets you do. It cuts down on time MASSIVELY compared to iterating each string. Example below: OutputArrayList.AddRange((string.Join("SuffixString;", sourceStrings.ToArray()) + "SuffixString").Split(";".ToCharArray()).ToList()); You could do the same thing on the resulting output to add a suffix as well, just changing the location of the 2nd SuffixString to before the String.Join statement. Again once I get back from class ill hopefully clean up and share a couple programs under 100 that I made for personal functionality. Proxy scraper is the main one, but I also have a couple text tools that I made for unique uses I have daily.

I used a bunch of Jetbrains stuff I get for free as a student (check it out if you didnt know that already, any .edu email works to get a year of their resharper and other related programs) That means i also use Visual Studio 2017 Eclipse IDE for Java Notepad++ for anything not a "big" language (like batch, ahk, etc) Oh and Sublime Text 3 for a few oddball things. I have N++, EMEditor, Sublime Text, VS Code, and Brackets all installed on my system. I honestly hate VS code the most, too many damn plugins for functions that I only want in a full IDE anyway. N++ has some syntax highlighting, and Brackets is great for phython. If I want the prompts for functions and other stuff Ill load up a full ide.

Or convert to string and use string operations would be my way, regardless practically of the language. Something like: If (_input.ToString().IndexOf("5") == 2) { //do whatever you need here }

The Blue 500GB M.2 is like 54$ on Newegg last time I looked.

Id look into the WD blue M.2 ssd for a few bucks more you can get double the storage Ill keep looking through and see what else ya got. EDIT: What will this PC be for? Just average use, like browsing the web? My thought is even if you dont wanna game, spending a little on a graphics card (even an old one from ebay) might boost ya a bit. Also In my personal preference, that keyboard/mouse combo would drive me nutty. Even typing or school documents, I like the feel of mechanical switches and a quality mouse much better. Something like the G602 from logitech is only 40$ at the local Best Buy. Everything looks compatible, although if you plan to upgrade in the future to dedicated graphics you might wanna just spend a few bucks more on a more powerful PSU. The same 750w I am using is like 50$ on newegg. Also in terms of the monitor - I am using 2 right now, one I bought on the cheap from craigslist I think - AOC 1920x1080 23.7 inch monitor, and the other I got from the local school district surplus for 5$ (another 1920x1080, but only 20 inch). You can save a nice $ buying some parts used, and beef up the rest of your system with the saved $$. If I were to build a tight budget system for gaming, the only things Id buy new are the case, storage, and power supply - most everything else is quite good quality used, and can be found easily. Even most peripherals can be found in good condition on ebay/craigslist.

Yeah I wish they had just done some benchmarks using those systems, both a before and after. Thats really what Im after, this video covers more HOW the air flows and HOW the dust builds up, not the impact of that dust buildup on the system performance. Watching that one plus a convo with my dad about liquid metal-ing his laptop made me look for some more hard stats on the impact of dust buildup, and I didnt readily find any.

Id love to see a video looking into how dust impacts thermals - does cleaning every month help out? How often should you be cleaning a system? How much decrease in thermal performance does dust buildup cause? How about in laptops, where the average user will NEVER clean the inside of his laptop? Will vacuuming the airflow ports on the laptop help out, or do you need to disassemble it to really get anything done? Would be fairly easy if you still have those 3 systems you let sit for a year from the "1 Year Airflow Experiment" videos. Maybe I just havent found the LTT video that covers this, but I sure havent seen one yet. You could probably do this in one sitting by just searching craigslist or ebay for some properly dusty-looking systems, or fishing out some of the daily driver laptops for some of your crew, or even create a synthetic test using dryer lint or something like that to just add a years worth of dust nearly immediately. Like turn on the PC, and then shower it in lint particles ("make it rain" style) near airflow points until the system looks properly dusty. I also have old laptops that I would be willing to ship for this cause. I know my personal desktop system gets hella dusty quickly given I have a cat, and tend to leave my tower on the floor where it will pick up dust easier. I clean it when I think of it or when I notice it looks extra bad when I check the air filter, but my nearly 70 y/o father has a lot of heat issues on his laptops and I bet he doesnt do much to clean his laptop. Seems like something without much actual hard data on the impact, just a lot of guides on how to clean that dust out. LMK what ya think of the idea errybody, and if you would be interested in this video concept via the poll. Would like to hear any additional ideas related to how to make this better as well.