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    noxdeouroboros reacted to LukeSavenije for a status update, for everyone that hasn't seen it yet Quote Google is currently investigating an issue   
    for everyone that hasn't seen it yet
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    noxdeouroboros reacted to Den-Fi for a status update, A few weeks with Topre keebs as my main boards has taught me a few things. I prefer t   
    A few weeks with Topre keebs as my main boards has taught me a few things.
     
    I prefer the tactility of Topre to the audible feedback of clicky switches.
    This was perhaps the largest revelation, especially considering that I hated the feel of Topre when I first got my FC980C. It took me about a day or so to adjust from heavy and clicky to light and tactile. Switch weight was another thing I'm surprised about. The Topre domes in both of my boards are 45G. This was disgustingly light at first, but the tactility started taking over and it became evident that this feeling was enjoyable. One thing Topre does for me is bring together the speed of clickly switches and the awesome feel of tactile. I say speed because personally, I can type REALLY fast when I have proper feedback.
     
    The Topre board is by no means silent out of the box. They do have versions with silencing rings pre-installed, but the thought of a silent typing experience sickens me. The click is replaced with a deeper, "thock" sound. It's inherently quieter than a click as well as being such a low tone that is does not travel very far. My assistant has already told me she doesn't notice it anymore.
     
    Here's a brief explanation of how Topre (Topre is a company and the proper term is Electrostatic Capactive, but I will just keep saying Topre for ease of both typing and understanding) works from keychatter.com:
     
    Due to the nature of Topre boards, they have some limitations. The first of these is board cost. Topre Realforce, Leopold, and HHKB boards are north of $230. That's after the price has come down over the years. This is a tough pill to swallow when you're spending this much for a stock board. Any customization at all and you're easily adding hundreds of dollars to the cost.
     
    You couldn't go and build your dream board as easily as you can with MX switch style boards. As the years have gone on, you have a few more makers out there, but your choices are limited. After you get your board of choice, there are VERY few aftermarket cases, and those that exist are expensive. My Norbauer case was $400. For me this was fine because the craftsmanship and artistry is out of this world. You do have MX cases that run this high or higher, but not many options like my KBD 5 Degree case that is crafted from a solid billet of aluminum for $88. You also have $30 options. This is just not the case for Topre for now. This comes form the high cost of the boards and the relatively small market.
     
    Along these same lines, Topre boards use Topre keycaps. There's a very limited selection of keycaps in this style. Most are for HHKB boards, so you're stuck if you're like me and have a Leopold. They have a different number of keys and the modifier keys are different shapes. To that end, you could install Topre to MX sliders, but even this presents a challenge. Most of the aftermarket slider have compromises. You have JTK sliders which have a reputation for poor quality, you have Niz sliders which were known for poor quality, but have gotten better in 2019... but they're too small for other brands and require modification to prevent movement. Novatouch sliders are many people's ideal sliders, but these come from a Cooler Master (yes, that Cooler Master) board that went extinct a few years ago. If you can find a complete set of these sliders, be prepared to pay $100+ for them. Lastly you have KBDFans to the rescue. These seems to be okay in quality from what I've read, but still require me to drill out my 2U housings to allow proper fitment of the keycaps. I went with the KBDfans sliders and I'll know later today whether or not this was the right move. I was tired of waiting for Novatouch sliders that were either missing the 2U sliders, or just a complete rip off in general. You'd think OH! You're done then! Buuuuuuuut you would be wrong. The spacebar is 6U (standard is 6.25U), so I need to find someone to make me a custom SA profile spacebar to match the keycap set I chose.
     
    Was all this worth it?! - Well.... depends on the who. If you had asked me a year and a half ago what my keyboard budget was, you'd get $150 tops. That's changed drastically when you look at what I've done recently with Cherry Killer. That board was $391.80 in parts alone. But along with that I've got tons of new friends and a hobby that I love. My Leopold FC660C and Heavy-6 were considerably more at $820 with the parts I've chosen thus far. It's been fun and frustrating, but I still like it and don't have an ounce of regret.
     
    What does the future hold? - I just ordered an ABKO K935P V2 for $128.94. It has excellent reviews AND comes standard with Topre>MX sliders. The ABKO uses the new Niz sliders that have gotten a lot of positive feedback, so it sound like this could be the way forward. A new challenger to the Topre crown is good for everyone. The makers at the top can't ignore a board that runs half the cost of theirs. I'm hoping this board catches on and we start to get custom cases and lots of attention. That board will be in later this week, so we shall see.
     
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    noxdeouroboros reacted to LukeSavenije for a status update, my wallet is going to murder me related tealios   
    my wallet is going to murder me
     
    related tealios

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    noxdeouroboros reacted to sowon for a status update, There it is, my new keyboard all complete. I added WKL blockers because I don't reall   
    There it is, my new keyboard all complete. I added WKL blockers because I don't really need those keys when I can QMK config the Windows key elsewhere.
     
    I think my favorite part about this keyboard is definitely getting to experience my 67g Tealios again, they make me feel right at home. The brass plate and the case are joint second, the brass plate accentuates a lot of bottom out particularly on the space bar, and the case just looks outright sexy.
     

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    noxdeouroboros got a reaction from LukeSavenije for a status update, Dog diabetes sucks ass.. Did all the things right, no human food, plenty of exercise,   
    Dog diabetes sucks ass.. Did all the things right, no human food, plenty of exercise,etc.. Veterinarian said that dogs live long time with this type of diabetes, screw him, she only lived a year and was in a lot of pain for the last hours..
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    noxdeouroboros got a reaction from Origami Cactus for a status update, Dog diabetes sucks ass.. Did all the things right, no human food, plenty of exercise,   
    Dog diabetes sucks ass.. Did all the things right, no human food, plenty of exercise,etc.. Veterinarian said that dogs live long time with this type of diabetes, screw him, she only lived a year and was in a lot of pain for the last hours..
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    noxdeouroboros got a reaction from LukeSavenije for a status update, RTX 2060 SUPER arrives on monday, now if I just could decide with which CPU to pair i   
    RTX 2060 SUPER arrives on monday, now if I just could decide with which CPU to pair it... that would be super.
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    noxdeouroboros reacted to b emoji for a status update, Tfue's new 700$ "Bespoke" KBDFANS 5 Degree Keyboard -- A case study into internet smo   
    Tfue's new 700$ "Bespoke" KBDFANS 5 Degree Keyboard -- A case study into internet smooth brains

    Tfue's new "bespoke" keyboard may look fancy at first but it is far from being worth 700$, and Viper the "custom keyboard builder" is far from what he says he is and is especially scamming poor kids into buying hilariously overpriced keyboards.  
    Parts
    Taking a deeper look at the keyboard uncovers that it uses a KBDFANS 5 Degree case which is a very low-quality keyboard case for beginners in the custom keyboard community, and can be found usually for less than 100usd, KBDFANS has them on sale for 88usd and Massdrop has it on sale right now for just 65usd. The plate used is a cheap 19usd Polycarb Plate, the cheapest option other than plateless. 
    Then the switches, the switches used are Hako Royal Clears from Novelkeys which are ok but not great, for 700usd you would except something like Zeal switches, Holy Pandas or Vintage Blacks but no, you get 55 cent switches. 40usd for 70 switches
    PCB is a 55usd DZ60RGB HOTSWAP yeah you heard it there, hotswap, paying 400$ for some idiot online to put switches on a hotswap keyboard what a steal. 
    Stabilizers used are GMK screw ins which are pretty nice once modded which it is thankfully. 
    Keycaps 50usd taihao miami set for 700usd you would expect more than oem profile caps that feel like sandpaper, you would expect something like gmk or pmk
    Custom ESC Enter and Space bar: You can get them printed here for max 40usd
    Custom cables go for around 35usd to 50usd we'll say he paid 60usd for this. 
    Lube Viper used GPL 106 oil to lube the switches which I thought was un-need and pretty stupid as box switches benefit very very little from lube and his lubing technique is far from good. Not sure what he used for the stabs but I'll say he used 205g0 and Dielectric Grease which puts the price for lube at 30usd
    Springs - there was a spring swap performed on the stream where the stock switches are replaced with some gold ones, assuming he choose the most expensive option, spirt that would have cost him 13$. 
    Foam cutouts were also used 20$ 

    That adds up to
    Case: 100$
    Plate: 20$
    Switches: 40$
    PCB: 55$
    Stabs: 20$
    Keycaps: 50$
    Custom caps: 40$
    Cable: 60$
    Lube: 30$
    Foam: 20$
    Springs: 13$

    That gives us a total of 448$ for parts and expenses. Keep in mind these prices have been rounded up and a similar build could be easily achieved for around 300usd. 

    Labour: 
    The PCB of the keyboard is a hotswap board yeah that's right HOTSWAP which means there's almost no effort in building this board no solder just pop in the switches. Clipping and lubing and bad-aid moding stabilizers are simple af, anyone above the age of 8 could do it with some lube, a brush, scissors and nail clippers. Lubing: lubing is completely unneeded with these box switches, they are already quite smooth and factory lubed and lubing has little to no benefit in this case, and his lubing method is questionable. Lubing devalues switches in my opinion unless you're some very well known and respected builder. Putting on keycaps is something that a money could do. 
    I would pay MAX 20$ 

    That gives us $468 and that gives about a 150usd profit margin. 

    For than 700usd I built this Ramaworks m65 a very high quality Aluminium case with a brass plate and weight, with 62g Zilents at 1.2usd per switch lubed with 3204, with Modded Zeal stabilizers, and with a high-quality GMK Solarized dark key set. 


     The worst part of this is this dude is selling these "bespoke builds" and it's working as shown by the form stating delays due to HIGH DEMANDS. Looking at his works most of his "customs" are just keyboards with cheap parts with hotswap pcbs, and I'm not sure if this dude even knows how to solder. 

    If you want an actual bespoke keyboard or someone to assemble your keyboard I suggest you get:
    Lower end: 
    Getting a hotswap pcb and just putting in switches yourself  (Literally takes no effort) 
    KBDFANS Pre-assembled PCBS/Kits 
    Higher end:
    Qlavier Acrylic Customs 
    Nathen Kim aka TaehaTypes assembly service 
    Very High end: 
    Keycult Commissions
    Nathen Kim Bespoke Commissions  

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    noxdeouroboros reacted to b emoji for a status update, My new GMK TA90 arrived! :)))   
    My new GMK TA90 arrived! :)))
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    noxdeouroboros reacted to Beer_Nontitju for a status update, While I at my local electronics store, I took a stroll in the Apple Isle. I opened sa   
    While I at my local electronics store, I took a stroll in the Apple Isle. I opened safari on every single Apple computer and started playing Louis Rossman's videos on all of them.
     
    Then I left.
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    noxdeouroboros reacted to seon123 for a status update, The Aliaz switch tester I ordered arrived today. The switches don't feel too mushy, a   
    The Aliaz switch tester I ordered arrived today. The switches don't feel too mushy, and the dampening actually feels quite nice. The 70g switch feels most comfortable, so I think I'll go for that one in my split 60%. The switch itself is also really pretty.
     
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    noxdeouroboros reacted to b emoji for a status update, New Ramaworks M6-B Sage Macro pad, I'm planning to use box jades in them once I can f   
    New Ramaworks M6-B Sage Macro pad, I'm planning to use box jades in them once I can find my 6 loose jade switches. 
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