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Damn, why did Intel decide to drop NIC Teaming. I was hoping this get fixed in an upcoming Win11 update. Guess I'm uninstall Intel ProSet software.

Nowadays the motherboard is most likely to be the component that degrades or show signs of defects that will effect every other component especially the CPU. As it has in my case, which is why I just opened a 3rd RMA on the MSI X399 MEG Creation motherboard

Check your core voltage I'm noticing my motherboard is not as stable with the VCORE voltage for my 2990WX. At times it will drop to 0.79V which is not nearly enough and often lead me with cores running at 600Mhz.

No that is true, you can control the air easily in a closed case than an opened case, and provided you have adequate case fans. I say outside of us PC enthusiast nerds, average home PCs owners majority work with closed cases, not tempered glass and their cases usually lack sufficient air flow, which in compared to an opened bench would be more sufficient.... but if the room temperature is warm, then it's going to nullify any benefits of an open case. See my open case here, system temp is 35°C , where as my closed case shown below, system temp is actually cooler at 30°C. I try to keep the thermostat set at 74°F. Closed case:

well... an AIO isn't for everyone. It certainly cool the Ryzen 5 3600 with no problem. Personally if I was going for another CPU heatsink fan that was not the stock Wraith Stealth included, I would have gone a few steps up and acquired either new or used a Wraith Prism cooler. They don't cost much, $25-35 on ebay new/used or Amazon, and they cool the Ryzen 5 pretty well, and it has nice RGB to complement your setup. That Mugen 5 looks big but it looks all aluminum like what the stock wreath stealth heatsink is made up of. Is there no copper base on the block? At least with the Wraith Max, Wraith Prism, or even the 1st gen Wraith Spire coolers (All compatible with Ryzen 5) all have a copper base on the CPU block of the heatsink providing more thermal dissipation. I say this in general to all Ryzen 3/5 CPU heatsink fan shoppers you all should really be shopping first, for the higher stock coolers included with the Ryzen 7, 9 that owners are discarding in favor for more expensive cooling. Those stock coolers do a lot more for smaller count Ryzens in cooling. Last what type of thermal paste did you apply to that CPU before installing on the Mugen 5 cooler? The thermal Conductivity (W/mK) rating of the thermal paste used is just as important checking out as well, as a higher thermal conductivity rating paste will best transfer that heat off CPU through the heatsink cooler. I don't think that would have made his situation any better. OP it sucks that you have to down clock your chip. An open workbench should be getting much cooler temps unless your room temperature is a scorcher.

Tell us your system specs Tell us the game that you are trying to launch.

OP Get an 240mm rad sized AIO Liquid Cooler. I recently got that same CPU and paired it with my old Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240 AIO that I used to cool my Threadripper 2990WX with stock. Here's my temps on load versus idle. idle:

I have the X399 SLI Plus motherboard from MSI would the unique 5V RGB header. I'm too perplexed why MSI put this odd choice for 5V RGB header on this board and not provide any accessory for it. I just ordered the new MAG CoreLiquid 360R AIOs and you would think MSI would include something to convert to us non-conventional 4-pin 5V RGB owners to work with the industry standard 3-pin but nope.

I ordered the ML360R a few days ago and now before it arrived I'ved opened a return. This colorful AIO is sadly not Threadripper compatible. So EVGA CL36 for me.

Have you seen this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-Radeon-RX-5700-GDDR6-Graphics-Card-8GB/353052805143?epid=17036085451&hash=item5233964817%3Ag%3Am2wAAOSwxxJeg6Os&LH_ItemCondition=3 I bet that seller would accept if you make a $250 offer. I personally feel RX 5600 and 5500 are cash crabs by AMD. They only exist to keep the RX 5700 at $350. Last November I remember when DELL put up their RX 5700 GPUs for $278. Steal of a deal, especially in the likes of now AMD put a more gimped GPU at that price level.

OP, I did like you and bought the 5700XT on launch last year. It was right after I saw Hardware Unboxed show this graph. I thought might as well get the SKU AMD showed that was clocked higher than the regular, and I bought the 50th Anniversary model directly from AMD. Paired it with a Ryzen 7 3700X and a MSI X470 Gaming Pro motherboard. One of my first crashipolooza games was The Divison 2, the game meant to be optimized for AMD hardware, would freak out when I try to max it's settings at 1080p 144Hz Freesync enabled. I even found that the Precision Boost Overdrive being Enabled or defaulted in the BIOS was adding to the crash. Disabling it gave me 30 minutes of game play versus 5-10 minutes on the initial July and August Radeon 2019 drivers. Then AMD launched Radeon 2020 and that added more problems, my black screen freezing turned to just general screen freezes when I wasn't even playing games, just watching downloaded video files (something most people today don't do since everyone likes to stream) video would freeze while audio kept playing in playback forcing hard reset. This issue kept me on Radeon 19.12.1 (2019) for a while. The icing on the cake for me is when I was playing Witcher 3 GOTY where it would randomly crash which was fault of the game but most other times it was the Radeon card being finicky and just going black. It didn't matter what driver I used. I eventually swapped in a RTX 2080 Amp to play and boy that card ran the game well, no black crashes, no freezes, it was even able to do a stable 144Hz for my Display in Witcher where as the 5700XT card often struggled to get near that in moving scenes. I recently swapped back in my 5700XT card following the 20.2.2 Radeon driver, and yeah those issues I had before appear to be gone. The card seems somewhat neutered now and not able to get me high benchmark results that I used to hit with the old Radeon drivers, but I guess that is the tradeoff, and that's been my NAVI experience.

What are your CPU speeds? Have you tried overclocking it? First, run a benchmark with the game and see where it shows your systems current performance is at? This is a good way to see if you are either CPU bottlenecking or GPU limited (maxing).

OP never said which Ryzen 5 CPU he's getting, if he gets a Ryzen 5 3600 or 3600X, he's going to want a X570. I said I got a X470 for my R5 2600. Hopefully OP know if he is getting a R5 2600 an decides on a X570, the motherboard is going to need to be flashed in order to work. But you should only get a X570 board with a Ryzen 3000 CPU.

I agree I am confused by your Thread question. If you are looking for a motherboard that is a good overclocker that is new in condition and latest tech. Then I would follow the suggestion here: Otherwise, if you are looking for a cheap used motherboard for AM4 CPUs, I suggest shopping MSI X470, I recently picked up a MSI X470 Gaming Pro motherboard from Amazon used for just $89. It's a blast with my Ryzen 5 2600 that I overclocked easily to 4.0GHz across all cores.

If you are going AMD, I'd recommend Ryzen 7 3800X, the higher clock will definitely bring out performance of a RTX 2080 Ti. I would not get a Ryzen 7 3700X, it's a nice CPU as I have one, but the higher clock speed of the 3800X will ensure there's not any chance of your CPU bottle necking the GPU. I would not go Ryzen 9, unless you really want to spend the extra dough. The extra cores will not help as it's clocks speed not core count that matters as far as achieving GPU dependency.