MadPistol

Is my gaming Setup good?(RTX 3070 ti gaming Trio msi and Ryzen 5 5600x ) 1 tb internal storage and 16 Gigs ram

Then your current CPU would be a better fit.

The 3950x is slow as molasses. Yes it will bottleneck. Even the 7950x bottlenecks the 4090, it's that powerful. I would just throw a 5800x3d in there and call it a day

I've been watching a lot of content on the 4090s and with Buildzoid coming out with his two board analysis videos I wanted a quick reference to all 4090 cards in terms of VRM arrangements. It's interesting seeing the wild variance from the Halo cards (Suprim, STRIX, AIRO) and the OC cards (Trio, TUF, Trinity). This is very much a surface level analysis, but should provide some insight in terms of which cards will have the most robust VRM arrangements.
One thing I will comment on, the Trinity OC seems to be seriously woefully underpowered VRM wise, doing some of my own calculations, you should be expecting ~75W of heat to be generated at 400A (440W at 1.1V) by the VRM's alone, which is... quite excessive.
 

CARD GPU Voltage Phases GPU Voltage Controller GPU MOS MOS Current (A) Total GPU Current Memory Voltage Phases Memory Voltage Controller Memory MOS MOS Current (A) Total Memory Current Total Phases Source MSI Suprim X (& Liquid) 26 Monolithic MP2891 Monolithic MP86957 70 1820 4 Monolithic MP2891 Monolithic MP86957 70 280 30 Techpowerup ASUS STRIX OC 24 Monolithic MP2891 OnSemi FDMF3170 70 1680 4 Monolithic MP2891 OnSemi FDMF3170 70 280 28 Techpowerup Nvidia Founders 20 Monolithic MP2891 Monolithic MP86957 70 1400 3 Monolithic MP2891 Monolithic MP86957 70 210 23 Techpowerup Colorful Vulcan OC-V 24 uPI uP9512U Alpha & Omega AOZ5311NQI-03 BLN3 55 1320 4 uPI uP9512R Alpha & Omega AOZ5311NQI-03 BLN3 55 220 28 Techpowerup Zotac AIRO 24 uPI uP9512U Alpha & Omega AOZ5311NQI-03 BLN3 55 1320 4 uPI uP9512R Alpha & Omega AOZ5311NQI BLN0 55 220 28 Techpowerup ASUS TUF OC 18 Monolithic MP2888A Infineon TDA21570 70 1260 4 uPI uP9512Q Vishay SIC638A 50 200 22 Hardware Unboxed Gigabyte Gaming OC 20 uPI uP9512U Vishay SIC653A 50 1000 4 uPI uP9512R Vishay SIC653A 50 200 24 Techpowerup MSI Gaming Trio X 18 Monolithic MP2891 OnSemi NCP303151 50 900 4 Monolithic MP2891 OnSemi NCP303151 50 200 22 CoolPC Palit GameRock OC 16 uPI uP9512U OnSemi NCP302150 50 800 3 uPI uP9512R OnSemi NCP302150 50 150 19 Techpowerup Zotac Trinity OC 14 uPI uP9512U Alpha & Omega AOZ5311NQI-03 BLN3 55 770 4 uPI uP9512R Alpha & Omega AOZ5311NQI BLN0 55 220 18 CoolPC Gigabyte Windforce 14 ? Vishay SIC653A 50 700 4 ? Vishay SIC653A 50 200 18 profesionalreview  
Let me know if I missed anything up or if there are some cards you'd like to see added (I can't make promises on what board pictures I can find).
 
EDIT 10/17: Added Gigabyte Windforce, a new competitor for worst VRM arrangement on a 4090.

Yes.... YES!!! THAT'S RIGHT!!! My Grandmother also needs a new GPU for her PC. But definitely not a 4090. No... definitely not... boycott Nvidia!!!

*hides bag with 4090 in it*

Yes... Let's all boycott Nvidia!!! Nobody buy the RTX 4090!!!

BTW, I think Micro Center opens at 8am tomorrow... you know, just so you can go there and watch other people buy them.

Ahem, yes, I will just go there and watch while standing in the queue, ahem 😉.
 
You know, I think I just remembered that my Grandmother's PC needs a new GPU.

Yes... Let's all boycott Nvidia!!! Nobody buy the RTX 4090!!!

BTW, I think Micro Center opens at 8am tomorrow... you know, just so you can go there and watch other people buy them.

Oh cool, what if we also put the PhysX calculations on an discrete card too? 😮

There was also a massive hit to performance when the following items were introduced.
Pixel Shaders Real-time lighting and shadows Tessellation HDR lighting Performance will improve over time. Ray Tracing is the holy grail of lighting models; there's no chance of it going away.

As far as RT performance on RTX 3000 vs RX 6000 cards, it is literally impossible for the RX 6000 cards to match the RTX 3000 cards on Ray Tracing performance. The RTX 3000 cards are already on their 2nd generation Ray Tracing hardware (RTX 2000 was 1st gen), and they simply have more of it. No amount of driver optimization will change the hardware differences.

DLSS enabled cards are simply more versatile than those that aren't, because AMD chose to allow FSR to work cross-platform, which allows Nvidia cards to upscale in more games. And when DLSS is implemented, it is usually better.
 
As far as AMD Ray Tracing vs Nvidia 3000 series Ray Tracing...it's not comparable. The AMD cards physically just have less potent and numerous Ray Tracing hardware. 
 
If these features are important to you, then the only option at all is Nvidia.
 
But again, none of that matters if availability isn't there. This has been the biggest problem with AMD. They have consistently not had MSRP stock available, and even if they were better across the board, there's still going to be more people buying Nvidia cards simply because there's more available.

So yes, everyone and their grandma has Nvidia, but mostly because there really wasn't an option otherwise.

Strap a couple of fans to that GPU heatsink. It's designed to be hit with constant air pressure resulting from high-speed fans.

Sustained clocks.

I just played Doom Eternal Maxed out at 4K + Ray Tracing and no DLSS. My RTX 3080 FE is hitting 80C and the actual core clocks are dropping below 1800 Mhz at times. This is normal behavior for a GPU that is being stressed to the max. This new generation of GPUs are pushed to the absolute max as far as transistor tech goes. In order to get higher clocks, you have to increase cooling capacity through something like water cooling. 





 

This seems like a really bad idea.

I think the last time we surveyed everyone here, like 7 people had one.

Do you not know the theme song? 😱
 

It should be fine.

There are ways to overcome the "scalping" issue. The first is to stop buying from them. The second is to figure out a method to track when cards drop and be ready to jump on them when they do.

As for the "whining", I do feel the pain of those that have held out this long to try and get a new card, but if you have a GPU that's good enough, keep it until you get another. The big issue I have seen everywhere is that people sold their old cards before they got a new one, and thus were left stranded with a PC and no GPU. This is ALWAYS a risky maneuver, and this time, it really bit some people in the butt.

GPUs are a luxury item; you don't need one unless you're using it for accelerated visual computing work that takes advantage of the GPGPU capabilities. I maintain that if you have to sell your old one to be able to afford a new one, you can't afford the new one.

I was following some websites where people typically talk about where/when they're instock, and I basically sat in front of my computer for 3 weeks hitting F5 on various sites until I finally snagged one from Best Buy. It was painful.

SLI and only 2GB VRAM per GPU. It's a cool novelty card, but I wouldn't recommend it for gaming.

GPUs, especially high-end modern ones, are a luxury, not a necessity. This is how the free market and supply/demand works.
 
 
The depressing part is how many people continue to whine about it.

Looks like a BFG 6800 GS OC based on the label. I'm not familiar with the cooler, though.

That's a GeForce 6800 GS 256MB card as far as I can tell. 

Looks like a BFG 6800 GS OC based on the label. I'm not familiar with the cooler, though.

UserBenchmark... when will people stop using this?

The RTX 3090 has 24GB VRAM, more VRAM bandwidth, DLSS capability, and better Ray Tracing performance. It also will beat a 6900 XT at 4K performance roughly 90% of the time, and it has enough VRAM and bandwidth to handle 8K (although this one is reaching as it's still not that fast).

It is almost guaranteed that an RTX 3090 will long outlast a 6900 XT in usability. That does not mean an RX 6900 XT is a bad card... far from it. But nobody should be choosing an RX 6900 XT over an RTX 3090 if given a choice between the 2.