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Thank you for helping and clearing things up. I decided to go with the Seasonic.

Hi guys, I'm trying to choose a power supply for my build - 9700k + RTX 2070 or GTX 1060, I will be overclocking sometimes. With black friday sales starting, I need to choose between the following options. The Seasonic Focus 750 Gold or the Corsair TX650M. Both Semi modular, the TX750M is also a possibility, the seasonic is like 6$ cheaper. I'm kinda leaning towards the seasonic because I heard some good feedback about them. I initially planned on getting the 650w seasonic focus but its not available for me, so these are the options. My concern is wether it being a 750w can cause any damage to my setup, and the recent news about the Focus plus line issues (not sure if this includes the non plus line series). So first of all, I won't be getting the GPU in a while, I'll be using the PC with built in graphics, the setup would consume about 100 to 200 watts I believe. When I will get the GPU, with both components overclocked I believe the setup can consume about 450 to 550 watts. Is it okay if I pair my setup with such high wattage PSU? Can it cause any damages? I've recently heard that the focus plus line is having some issues with certain GPUs, does this have any effect with the non plus semi modular focus line? I understand efficiency would be slightly lower due to the PSU being the most efficient at certain loads but is it really an issue? My power outlet is also outputting 220v rather than 110 which I believe makes it slightly more efficient. Are higher wattage PSUs (750w compared to 650w in this case) quieter? Lastly, I would like to hear some opinions as to what would you consider a better choice? I know these two models are good but not sure which would be considered to have better quality control Thanks, I truly appreciate any help

Downloading wouldn't be an issue I guess but what about file transferring, software installation and video rendering? I believe I kinda misunderstood how that SLC caching algorithm works. In other words how do you exhaust the cache or at what scenarios does it happen? I came across some reviews for this drive but only the 1TB version. Anyways, one of the reviews took a 30GB file transfer to the test while the drive was 85% full, that speed plummet happened right away. Considering the 1TB version has 12GB of cache when the drive is at least 75% full, 30/12 = 2.5 - which leads me to believe any workload that are 2.5 times the SLC cache capacity will plummet, I would even say 2 times would be enough to exhaust the cache. The 512GB version which I'm interested in has half the capacity of SLC cache than the 1TB version. Which means when the SSD is filled to at least 75%, only 6GB of SLC cache will remain which means 12gb of write workloads would be enough to exhaust the cache.. And even if you transfer files one by one, you still have to wait minutes for the cache to be cleaned. Sounds pretty disappointing. I mean of course I don't work with large files and software on a regular basis, but sometimes you do need to mount partitions, transfer media and install games. If my theory is true those speeds are unacceptable, especially with this drive's MSRP. Either way, I'm still not quiet familiar with how this cache algorithm works, just making assumptions. If anyone has any idea or resources that can clear some things up, that would be great.

Hi, I was just about to purchase the 512gb intel 660p SSD as I've got a good deal on it. Then all of a sudden Linus came up with this review with so much legitimate complains, that I am now not sure I'm gonna buy it after all. What really irritated me was how they ran some test and demonstrated how slow the 660p becomes when transferring large file, for this instance they transferred a 250gb steam folder. Linus also demonstrated how the drive's cache works as this drive treats some of its QLC cells as SLC cache, and as the SSD fills up, the SLC cache capacity shrinks. As can be seen in this graph by anandtech: On the 512gb version, as the drive's capacity increases to above 75%, the SLC capacity shrinks to only 6GB, which sounds incredibly low. Which got me wondering, if I wish to either transfer, install or download a file that is larger than the SLC cache capacity, will the SSD become actually slower than a hard drive? This is not something I'm willing to accept. Working with files over 6GB is something that happens pretty often for average users I assume (well at least for me), this flaw (if I understood it correctly) and intel's MSRP for this drive doesn't seem to work together. I couldn't find much info over this. I came across one customer review on newegg for this drive that confirmed that workloads with over 5GB with this SSD cause instant write speed slowdowns but not sure I can count on it. The deal I got for this drive was 60$, the other option I'm considering is the crucial MX500 m.2 SATA TLC SSD for 80$. Not sure which one to choose yet. If anyone can provide me some info on this and clear things up for me that would be very helpful. I highly appreciate any help

Gotta say that I feel like I made a wrong choice and think I should've done some more research. Now that the new GPUs were announced we know that the 2080 will consume 20% more power and 2070 would stay the same. Not a big deal as I think I will be getting the 2070 anyways but whatever. I'm gaining a little interest in overclocking now, and summing up everything seems like I'll be getting very close to the power supply's maximum output. An 8700k at high overclocks can consume up to 200watts with random sudden peak wattages of up to 70watts if I'm not mistaken. An RTX 2070 can consume over 250w when maxed overclocked too. The rest of the system would probably pull around 50watts, that's already exceeding 500watts. Not sure this is a good thing for the power supply. It's very inconvenient having to feel stressed every time I wish to overclock my pc components and continuously thinking I might cause any damage accidentally. Might end up selling this one and getting a 650w instead, not sure yet. If anyone think otherwise please share your opinion.

Thanks for clearing everything up. I was really unsure which one to get, I was afraid a 550w wouldn't be enough and on the other hand didn't want an overpowered PSU which I would never use all of its power. Before making this thread I almost grabbed the 650w one. I ended up getting a seasonic focus plus gold 550, very glad I made this decision and very glad I realised how garbage and inaccurate this PSU calculator is. Thank you so much! I already got the 8700k, grabbed it once when I came across a good mobo + CPU combo.. I actually saved 20$ on this, so two pizzas for me yay! Definitely worth it. Thank you for helping!

Hi to all, I've kinda asked this on the tier list thread but I'm going to post it here because I'm really having hard time choosing between the two. I'm having trouble deciding which wattage power supply I should use for my upcoming build. I'm currently going for an 8700k build and waiting for the 11xx GPU series. I'm not sure which GPU I'll get at the moment, I assume either an 1160/1170/1180 but its still unfortunate. I've no idea what the 11xx series' power consumption is gonna be, so I'm going to assume its similar to the current series (if anyone thinks otherwise please correct me). For this reference I'm going to assume I'll be getting a GTX 1180 (picked a gtx 1080 in the calculator assuming it'll have the same power consumption). I entered the following specs in the outervision calculator: https://outervision.com/b/WZuJV0 If you've noticed I entered the CPU and GPU's max overclocking capabilities - 4.9GHz with 1.35v for the CPU and 2000MHz core clock + 2850MHz memory clock for the GPU. Did I do this right? the result I got was 550watts at load - a 600w power supply was recommended. This seems a little bit off because I've seen many people saying a 550w power supply is enough for such build. Also if let's say my overall power usage would be between 520w~550w, if I were to use a 550w power supply would I be stressing the power supply which will cause it to throttle? I've also added some LEDs that I'll be controlling using an Arduino, not sure yet if I'll power them using the ATX power supply or an external AC one, neither way do LEDs consume that much power? Thanks, any help is highly appreciated

It seems like the difference in general between the Focus Plus and the original Focus line is the modularity, the focus plus is fully modular and the focus is semi modular. However there seem to be no reviews for the original focus line which kinda puts a doubt just like you mentioned. Anyways I'm now having some trouble choosing either 550w or 650w. would a 650w be quieter at load? I'm currently building an 8700k rig with no GPU until the 11xx series launches. I'm kinda unsure which GPU I'll get at the moment. Since nobody knows this series' power consumption specs, only rumours and assumptions are to be based on. According to recent rumor which I highly take with a grain of salt, seems like the GTX 1180 will be rated at 180watts, the 1170 at 150W and the 1160 at 120watts. Would a 650w power supply be an overkill for such build with max overclocks? Also would a 650w power supply be quieter at load compared to a 550w?

Thanks for the help. I'm going for an 8700k build and very likely waiting for the 11xx Series. I went with the assumption that I'll be overclocking the CPU and a GPU with the same power requirements as the 1080Ti (although I believe the new series will consume less power than the current). Is this still too much? I was kinda surprised to hear that actually. Anyways, as for the TXM or the focus gold, is any of them better in terms of long term durability and performance?

Hey guys, I'm looking to buy a 650w gold power supply. I'm currently considering between these two options - the Corsair TX650M and the SeaSonic Focus 650 Gold SSR-650FM (haven't seen this line on the list). The Corsair is 5$ cheaper and has an extra PCIE connection compared to the SeaSonic. They both provide a 7 year warranty. It almost feels to me like they're both the same, is the corsair a rebranded seasonic in this case? I'll be buying it from amazon, I'm not from the US therefore I'll be shipping it overseas and hoping not to deal with any RMAs. Anyways if anyone can help me make the right decision between the two I'd be glad, I appreciate any help.