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Sooo, I have been a very happy iPhone 11 Pro Max user as of late. The extra battery life over my XS Max is fantastic and I have LOVED comfortably making it through the day no matter how hard I hit the GPS chip and Bluetooth modems. My XS Max was also microscratched to **** and back because I did not use a screen protector. I wasn't even planning on upgrading to the 11 Pro Max, but between the massive improvements in efficiency allotted by the A13 mixed with "The worlds strongest glass on an iPhone," how could I say no?

 

Well... turns out that's a half truth.

 

The iPhone 11 Pro Max Glass is "the worlds most shatter resistant glass on an iPhone." Honestly I should have seen this coming as the only way to make a rigid, fragile material stronger is to make it softer, but such is life.

Noticed gouges on my 11 Pro Max display, just as Linus noted in his review... Sigh. Full writeup on the Apple forums: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250829831

  1. vanished

    vanished

    As far as I know, they're still using glass, and glass of any kind scratches at a Mohs hardness of 6.  Different types like Gorilla Glass, etc. only affect flexibility and shatter resistance.  So, this should be somewhat expected - it would scratch as easily as any other phone.  However, that's really not that easily as most things including keys, razor blades, and other bits of common metal, are not hard enough to scratch glass, so how did this happen?

  2. SenKa

    SenKa

    Your best guess is as good as mine. I keep the phone in a soft cloth pocket at all times and have never dropped it, I don't even put anything else in the pocket with it.

     

    My best guess is that the top layer of glass is softer to keep it from shattering while dropped. Regardless Apple needs to fix the issue as me and Linus are far from the only ones who have experienced this @Ryan_Vickers

  3. vanished

    vanished

    Hm, so often we expect improvements to be made but perhaps it's actually been made softer than regular glass.  If so this is going to be a massively widespread issue... #scratchgate lol

  4. SenKa

    SenKa

    @Ryan_VickersIt IS more shatter resistant, thats been tested and proven. But more scratch prone? That's a rough trade.

  5. vanished

    vanished

    I just mean that if anything you would expect it to become more scratch resistant over time as that's obviously something people want, so a regression there would be unexpected and you'd thus be forgiven for getting caught out by this.

  6. dizmo

    dizmo

    There's a company that makes sapphire screen protectors. Might be worth the investment.

  7. vanished

    vanished

    Or even just proper hardness 6 glass ones.  But yeah, so long as it's real sapphire and not the diluted crap Apple's tried to pass off in the past that also scratches at a level 6, that could be a nice improvement.

  8. dizmo

    dizmo

    It is. It actually looks super impressive, watched a review a fellow did on it. Wish they made it for more phones, but of course iPhones are the biggest market.

    They took the equipment from the failed sapphire company (GT something?) and tweaked the design.

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