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Never mind; solved the issue. https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/22681099 Apparently Threadripper will only run in parallel dual/dual mode, via quad configuration (4 sticks). Also, apparently... It is the recommended spec for Threadripper to be running on in the first place.

Preface: I have another kit of two modules coming in later this week for a Quad Channel setup. Just trying to boot into Dual Channel mode to see if I can raise my UserBenchmark scores to reasonable levels, after I do that, find out if there's actually any issue with my RAM via Memtest. (I just don't have 2 days to sit without my PC at the moment) What I've been experiencing: UserBenchmarks: Game 133%, Desk 106%, Work 108% CPU: AMD Ryzen TR 2950X - 84.7% GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080-Ti - 180.4% SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 1TB - 91.9% SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 1TB - 92.2% SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 205.2% USB: SanDisk Cruzer Blade 8GB - 10% RAM: G.SKILL F4 DDR4 3600 C18 2x8GB - 56.4% MBD: MSI MEG X399 CREATION (MS-7B92) Configurations: Manufacture recommended configuration of DIMMB2+DIMMD2 : Boots in Single Channel Clearing CMOS : Boots in Single Channel Re-seating the modules : Boots in Single Channel Swapping the modules' places : Boots in Single Channel Trying slots C2+A2 (As these are the Quad Channel slots, and could just be the parallel dual) : Boots in Single Channel. There is no capacity issue, IE: All 16GB is working fine. Here is a validation via CPU-Z: https://valid.x86.fr/vz5qbc I suspect the main issue is honestly Bitdefender Virus Scanner causing a low score, initially, as it uses 350-500 MB, and can't be 'toggled' off. During the UserTestbench, all programs minus Bitdefender are closed. Also, to note ~ adding to the "On the way products" I have so Thermal Paste coming so when it arrives, I'll have the ability to re-seat my CPU if there is no other explanation. However, I am feeling slightly like either the BIOS or Theadripper are rejecting a Dual Channel configuration for some reason. I don't know why that would be, but I don't think it's improperly seated, or pump is over-pressuring on it. Either way, I'll likely end up re-seating it, just in case. Just not immediately. Any suggestions I'd love to hear. Thanks in advance. Edit: BIOS is updated, and current, as well as any and all drivers. Edit2: I've tried different memory speeds, the reason it is so low at current, is due to the CMOS reset, so it'll reflect in the validation. To note: I can't run at advertized 3600Mhz, but I can run at 3333, and 3466 and reasonable stability. If anything, any issues are lacking of RAM for titles I'm playing, causing issues. Unless anyone could suggest otherwise. Title giving issue currently: Anno 1800

Right on. I ran it for a moment, just to be sure. I'll run it overnight, and see what comes up. For some odd reason it won't let me hit the ESC button to leave the test and reboot. I have to hard reset the system, once again, many a hard reset. However, I have the test program, and can reliably run it now. All that is left is the time to run it.

I may seem like a complete moron, here... but I'm having one rough time trying to circumvent having to use a CD drive for Memtest86+, as I don't have a CD drive in my build. It looks like the USB bootables are for windows 7 and below, would this matter? Edit; I believe this could also be a bigger issue than I thought, seeing as how I checked, and after a Bios update, it seems that either one of the crashes reset the XMP profile, or the updated bios did. Short story short, the XMP profile was actually not active, and even so seemingly at the time of the hangups.

I'm certainly grateful that you'd triggered that understanding. I remember enabling it thinking "I've heard the horror stories, but I don't feel quite up to snuff to do this manually. I'll see if the XMP works." and it did, but as we can clearly see, not reliably enough. I'm now just another statistic. I'll certainly run Memtest with the XMP to be sure if this is the issue or if this profile has caused a failure of sorts that Memtest can verify. I'd hate for the profile to caused hardware damage.

Eureka! That was something I had forgot about. I'm using an XMP profile, this could be the case. I'll revert to stock settings, run whatever game I was playing at the time that (seemingly) was causing the crash after an extended period of time, and see if this is the issue. This would certainly make me a sad panda, running stock ram speeds are no fun, but I don't feel safe touching timings. The XMP profile is the Lower end profile, and has been relatively stable, this being the only thing that seemed to flare up, but I'll certainly put this in my list of things to check for. MemTest86+ you say? I'll get right on it. Samsung are all of the drive's manufacturer. I'll start with the ram, but not fully rule out the SSDs.

New 1TB NVME drive. Is there some way to diagnose this being the issue? It's about 4 months old. Light use. The rest are 1TB SSDs (2x) about 2 months old. (Secondary drives)

This has happened twice in two days. Out of nowhere, all my applications half crash. Half crash; They are still running, but any action taken in them causes them to quickly deteriorate to fully crashing. Windows is still reading the disks, such as Search, opening programs, and finding files within programs (Although very buggy.) If any action is taken, like screenshotting, and pasting into Paint.exe for example, causes Paint.exe to become unresponsive. So, it's very hard to capture this phenomena. Google Chrome can make 1 search reliably, but crashes on the next site. Task manager shows all base values, being =0 and nothing is updating. I tried launching HWMonitor to see if there was some kind of critical failure with my hardware, but that loaded the program itself, but froze on loading any data within it. I tried to log out, and got an infinite logging out screen. I was forced to hard reset. This has happened twice, and neither time did my PC decide "Windows shutdown improperly" and I wouldn't know where to find a log of this event, or find out what is causing it. The only thing I believe I've done since this problem started, was upgrade NVIDIA drivers. However no real information that correlates to what I am experiencing seems to be available, other than just seemingly direct issues to the driver, causing black screens, and such. This is pretty terrifying to me, as to how expensive this problem could become, and I really do not want this to go unchecked. The first time, sure... A fluke, but the second time, in the exact same manner, non-coincidental. There is a serious problem I need to sort out, but I have no idea where to start. This is the only place I could think to turn with this problem. If there is any way to capture what is going on while this is happening, or a log of some sort, please let me know. Also, if anyone knows exactly what is happening, that would be amazing, and I would be eternally indebted. Thanks in advance.

Trying the XMP 3600mhz, didn't like the first run, but that was with everything still cached from the previous session. IDK why my windows insists on doing that. Ended in a blackscreen, but currently stable at 3600. If I black/bluescreen again, there's a second profile in the bios for a 3333mhz setup. I don't feel right doing these configurations by hand, but we'll see how this goes. Anything I should be looking out for in the meantime? Edit: Answered my own question; the black screen. 3333mhz, it is. If I need to go any lower, I'll disable the XMP and have to manually target the above suggested 3000mhz

Good catch, I was feeling a slight bit of sluggishness. Thanks for that. So many numbers on my first build ;-; hard to keep up with all of it. So, on that note, being at current: 15-15-15, I'd move down the chain to 14-14-14, until there was either an instability, and move back up, or is there a more defined kind of "Guide" on what I should be looking for, as to not fry the modules due to over-voltage? On the box, and the ram ~ It says CL18-22-22-42 I'd assume this is the loosest timing it's rated for? Using this as a guide, for the next 30min.. Lol.

...but it's a start.) video-1539296904.mp4 Credit to the folks in for helping me come to a conclusion, I would have been waiting forever. The build is but only started. Expect a higher quality camera, once I start my first liquid cooling solution. I can barely contain my excitement (For when I get out of debt.) PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant Type Item Price CPU AMD - Threadripper 2950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core OEM/Tray Processor Purchased For $961.74 CPU Cooler Thermaltake - Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition 42.34 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Purchased For $200.00 Motherboard MSI - MEG X399 CREATION EATX TR4 Motherboard Purchased For $499.99 Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory Purchased For $190.00 Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $128.00 Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $128.00 Storage Samsung - 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Purchased For $350.00 Video Card NVIDIA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Founders Edition Video Card Purchased For $1278.43 Case Thermaltake - View 91 Tempered Glass RGB Edition ATX Full Tower Case Purchased For $400.00 Power Supply Thermaltake - Toughpower iRGB PLUS Platinum 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $260.00 Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit Purchased For $140.00 Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $4536.16 Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-11 04:07 EST-0500

Right on. That's a good answer, and the explanation provided by GN is good to know, knowing that OC isn't really the fine line to be drawn when it comes down to it in performance. It's nice to have higher numbers to boast, but seeing this, it makes me reevaluate the situating regarding clocks. I guess why not wait. In which time I'll have more than enough saved to make a good decision, and maybe even find some awesome deals coming Cyber Monday.

Yeah, the main allure is being able to stream while retaining a maximum in-game experience. Such is my rationalization for the 1950x. In so, even the 7series gen2 would be on my radar, if the 1950x successor is absorbingly overpriced in comparison to the Gen1. I'll look into what it takes to stream in 4K, later on down the line. However I'm doing my best to maximize in all aspect. Such as rendering, if I ever do get into capturing, or video editing. It's more of a "Why upgrade later, when you have the means to do what you want to in the future, today?" mentality build. Basically mid-high (imo) gaming/workstation. RGB for flair, ha. Edit: Wait, are you suggesting this as a streaming rig on it's own? In which case, this is similarly in line to the "Down the road" aspect, after the monster has been hit with the lightning bolt.

Likely streaming in 1080p, it depends if my setup can handle 4K gaming while simultaneously streaming. I'm not that elitest type who needs 420fps (Not that 4K gets high FPS anyway) but if the stream is coming in at a down-scaled 1080p, and 4K FPS is [reasonable] I'm fine with that. I've heard so many horror stories about SLI, so I'm holding off for the 1100 series, not only to see the preformance difference, but I've also heard a fair share of nightmares for the 1080 Ti crowd, as well. I still haven't pinpointed the real issues there, but if the next release alleviates the problems there, I'm game to wait on it. Ah, well, MAYBE capturing. (Likely after I get more acclimated with basic streaming) That could be useful, but not entirely necessary. I don't expect to dive straight into the deep end when it comes to streaming 4K, however. A reasonable stream-side FPS would be optimal. Such as, I've noticed from Linus' video on streaming that AMD, likely due to its core count, I would assume (Could be much more than I'm scratching at the surface) is the king, when it comes to streaming. So, by proxy, the Threadripper in essence should be more than enough (or the Zen2) to both game, and stream, without the need for a dedicated streaming PC. However, way down the line, I'm sure a streaming PC is projected, here. There's no need to limit my own experience if I can afford to just get a dedicated rig for streaming.

Monitor is a Samsung KS8000 (Which is a TV) it's said the refresh rate is 120 Hz (One of the main reason I purchased it) however, after the fact, rtings.com had changed it to be situational, in a case called "Soap Opera" effect, which means that it's not native 120hz, and that really ticks me off, but if its anything over 60hz, I could be okay with it. Even 75hz would be fine at this point. It is 4K, and this build is projected to at some point in the future be suitable for VR (Elite Dangerous, and anything else I can throw at it, honestly.) Of course room to expand to a higher refresh-rate monitor would be in the cards later out, as well. I'm aware. As it's a build in-progress, in order to get everything situated quickly, as to be able to build it outright, and obviously trying to go for excess, the SSD was put on hold as to go for a larger, more expensive piece there. Not that it was outright forgotten, but specifically put to the wayside in order for that to be one of the very few corners that I could potentially cut on costs in order to have the system operational, with all the rest of what is required, functionally working. I can agree, throwing an OS SSD specifically for that reason is something that could be considered once I've doubled down on my decisions overall. In retrospect the reasoning is that of pinching pennies, comparatively to the rest of the build. Yeah, that seems like a good point on the Gen2, I'm however worried about price. The reason for jumping on things now, is realistically due to the price-point, but now since that price-point has opened my eyes to what the hardware is capable of, and caters to my needs (Outside of the lax overlclocking [comparatively]) I may bite that bullet, and push my projections back until early 2019, when I could reasonably afford the whole setup, outright.