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With already having a 2080, I'd really advise upgrading CPU before GPU.

With already having a 2080, I'd really advise upgrading CPU before GPU.

Yep it's the CPU, has horrible single core performance which skyrim loves. My old FX8320 did the same thing. Would drop to 40fps making it an awful experience. Switch to the i5 4690k and never drops below 60. Trust me I regretted my FX purchase also, but I just sold both the CPU and Mobo and got the i5 I couldn't be happier now.

It is BS I just checked the ram usage and it doesn't take any more ram than Battlefield 4:


 

Probably all will be needed because of all the memory leaks that'll occur

This is why you only use windows defender and are smart on what you download and when you are suspicious you use Malware Bytes

sell your first 970 and get a 980 Ti

Please stop spreading this misinformation. An i5 has 0 problems in BF4 and GTAV. If you are getting 100% usage then you have something else running in the background. They no where near "struggle" to maintain 60fps in those games.

Some G1 970 can overclock to the performance of a stock 980. No where near a 980ti tho.

Yeah, that's almost the cost of a GTX 980

WEI is a horrible metric to use to benchmark your system - so bad that Microsoft has not included it in Windows 8.1 and Windows 10.

Set everything to low. There you go. It's an early access game. Don't count on optimization any time soon.

Or don't cut back on the GPU and still have a better CPU. 
 
All prices from amazon.
 
AMD
Asus M5A97 = $94, FX6350 = $125, Hyper212Evo = $34 Total =  $253
 
Intel
Gigabyte H97M-HD3 = $75, i54430 = $176, Total = $251
 
There is no need to purchase FX CPUs for gaming.

Here a few pics of my rig , this will all new during the next week orso
 
 
 
 
Here a picture of my desk , for those who happen to give a f***
 
 

I feel worse for people who bought 980s than Titan Xs.

100% chance of a bottleneck if what you said is happening.

On a 970 I play with everything set to very high besides shadows which are set to high, no msaa, advanced graphics off never drop below 60fps and 0 stutters. So with a 980 you can do everything very high maybe with 2x msaa if it still frame drops turn msaa off

inb4 they take all over priced shitty looking cars that almost 0 car enthusiast and tuners actually like. Then they notice it and put dlc for cars like AE86 and R34 for 5€ per car

I would see how much an improvement skylake is before worrying about upgrading.
But yeah watchdogs isn't the best PC port out there.

Seems like an i5 is all you need. You can record and stream your gameplay with shadowplay which doesn't affect performance much maybe 2-5fps. You won't need the extra threads to edit them since you move them to a Mac anyway.

Or don't cut back on the GPU and still have a better CPU. 
 
All prices from amazon.
 
AMD
Asus M5A97 = $94, FX6350 = $125, Hyper212Evo = $34 Total =  $253
 
Intel
Gigabyte H97M-HD3 = $75, i54430 = $176, Total = $251
 
There is no need to purchase FX CPUs for gaming.

Or don't cut back on the GPU and still have a better CPU. 
 
All prices from amazon.
 
AMD
Asus M5A97 = $94, FX6350 = $125, Hyper212Evo = $34 Total =  $253
 
Intel
Gigabyte H97M-HD3 = $75, i54430 = $176, Total = $251
 
There is no need to purchase FX CPUs for gaming.

This is a thread meant to be referenced when people ask about "AMD or Intel CPU?" to explain the reason that the FX CPUs aren't good for gaming in most cases. It's a commonly asked question and people can be misinformed. I'm trying to show people without much information on this topic what I've found after buying and using an FX-6300 I purchased on Christmas 2014 and this post is made based on my experience owning and FX-6300 @Faceman has a post like this one that he references often
 
-----The BIG reasons the FX CPUs aren't for modern day gaming computers:
 
1: AGE! The architecture for the FX CPUs is 3 years old, and is basically just a re-hash of an even older architecture. These CPUs are old by computer technology standards
 
2. The single-core performance is very low in comparison to modern Intel CPUs. DX-11 is limited to one CPU core communicating with the graphics card to tell it what to draw on the screen. With one strong core communicating with the graphics card you are much less likely to find a bottleneck in gaming
 
3. You can not upgrade to anything worthwhile on the AM3+ socket. The best AM3+ CPU, the FX-9590 will perform marginally better in most games than the FX-6300. And costs as much as the Intel i5 4690k, which is the go-to high end gamer PC
 
-----Common reasons people buy FX CPUs:
 
1: Price-performance With options today like the Intel i3 4150, which runs on a very new architecture, has tons of upgradability, has very strong single-core performance, and costs less than the FX-8320 while beating it in most games, The FX CPUs are not good price-performance gaming CPUs anymore
 
2: DirectX 12 is not something you should be relying on when buying a new CPU. It will be beneficial to all computer hardware. And will likely scale as well with the i3-4150 as it will with the FX-6300
 
3: "It's fine for well optimized games." Through my testing with my FX-6300 overclocked to 4.2ghz in GTA V, which is a very well optimized game, the stock i3-4160 performs the same. This is a game that is able to utilize all of my CPU cores and the dual-core i3 can pull off the same thing without an overclock. For reference: In games utilizing all cores. The i3 has the same overall performance as an overclocked FX-6300. The difference is, for games that can't utilize 6+ cores (Most games use around 4) the i3 outperforms the FX CPUs greatly
 
-----They aren't complete garbage like some people would make you think
 
1: They are good for budget video editing and budget use of professional applications. If you frequently use programs like Photoshop and video editing softwares and are on a tight budget. These CPUs are great!
 
2: If you already have one it is not worth it to sell your FX CPU for an i3. If you'd like to upgrade waiting until you can afford an i5 is a much better option. You can play many games just fine on these. But the Intel i3-4150 does the same or better in almost every game except:The i3 doesn't need an aftermarket cooler, it doesn't need to be overclocked, and you can upgrade the CPU without buying a new motherboard.
 
 
-----Overall:
AMD is hated too much on the internet. For gaming CPUs the AMD FX line is not something you should buy today. AMD hasn't made a new architecture for a very long time and hopefully they will take what they've learned from the FX line of CPUs into consideration during the design of Zen
 
I play lots of games on my FX-6300 and I'm satisfied. But at the same time I know an i3 would've been the better option for upgradability, value, and performance. I made an uninformed decision when buying my computer upgrade, don't do the same! I made this post in kind've a hurry. Sorry if there are errors!

The case is definitely interesting and unique. I guess the function is alright but how is the cooling capacity.