SangeetKhatri

The thing is that if this ideas are not killed off right now, by the time people are tech saavy enough to care it would be too late.

Wow, I have 5 hour Hangouts calls daily. This would suck. 

a free VPN would solve this issue but yeah this sucks

Not the point: If they are allowed to do this all their competitors will.

Yes prepare for the massive List of Linux malware
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
 
48.....most obsolete and patched....such danger, very risk, wow.

OSX depends on exactly one company to get security updates: Apple. Linux depends on a large community of some of the most dedicated (often to a fault) nerds you might encounter and it's very nature allows patches and fixes for vulnerabilities to be detected and patched. Yes shit happens, that's the nature of the beast but without an open source community we could have gone on for another 2 or 3 or 5 years with nobody uncovering heartbleed. 
It's not perfect, but his assessment that there's no need for an antivirus on Linux right now it's actually correct. As LInux becomes more mainstream several antivirus will no doubt be coded and updated accordingly.

I use Linux. It does not have viruses, so there is no chance of a virus and yes, there is no Antivirus hogging my RAM in the background.

I can't run it. Why?
 
Linux. B)

No. First because the "resources" needed to release it on Linux if the game is done right (Opengl since the beginning) is negligible. Second way too many of us are sick and motherfucking tired of dealing with Windows, that includes developers and obviously Valve, so after like 30 years of nonsense how about you adapt to us and get used to linux for a damn change? 

With valve's aim towards bringing games to Linux, moving to OpenGL would not surprise me. Especially so that AMD, Nvidia and Intel collaborated together to reduce OpenGL overhead. Everyone is tired of Microsoft's monopoly in gaming industry. 

1. Marketing (Ads, Press Conferences, Events, Hoardings, Booths in malls and where not, it all costs money)
2. Labour and Production costs. Not to mention the training costs for new labours. Employees Sallary and all the production forces working behind to make phones possible.
3. License costs for Google Play Services, Additional subscriptions and for some bloat softwares.
4. Research and Development : AMOLED displays took a lot of R&D to come to where they currently are. Few years ago, Samsung were unable to produce even AMOLEDs of retina PPI. This is where R&D came into factor. Also this applies for lots of other stuff.
5. Shipping and Transporting charges.
 
6. They also have to make some profit, so after all this they barely get about 25-30% of the profit which I believe is well worth for keeping the company alive and bringing more devices to the market.

I doubt it's a question of support. Linux does have enterprise-grade support with RHEL - the amount you pay isn't for the software, but for the support. The software is still free and open-source as it has been used to create fully free, community-supported distributions like Fedora, CentOS and many others (I forget which ones are actually based on RHEL). 
 
The problem is probably due to how the business was established. A business established on Windows-based software will have a hard time transitioning into using Linux alternatives. Heck, the transition from a major Windows version to another can take a long time. A business that's established itself using open-source tools is in a better position to keep using it. A new business starting now can consider Linux as a viable option. 
 
Lack of software and support is a thing of the past. You can actually get paid Linux support now (and always, for that matter, Redhat has been around a long time). The transition is also something that needs to be done on a company-by-company basis, as each company's needs are different. 
 
Large game studios and movie production studios might be the only exceptions, as transitioning to a fully Linux environment would require a fair bit of sacrifice. For indie developers and smaller studios starting out, open-source software is a viable option. 

1. Marketing (Ads, Press Conferences, Events, Hoardings, Booths in malls and where not, it all costs money)
2. Labour and Production costs. Not to mention the training costs for new labours. Employees Sallary and all the production forces working behind to make phones possible.
3. License costs for Google Play Services, Additional subscriptions and for some bloat softwares.
4. Research and Development : AMOLED displays took a lot of R&D to come to where they currently are. Few years ago, Samsung were unable to produce even AMOLEDs of retina PPI. This is where R&D came into factor. Also this applies for lots of other stuff.
5. Shipping and Transporting charges.
 
6. They also have to make some profit, so after all this they barely get about 25-30% of the profit which I believe is well worth for keeping the company alive and bringing more devices to the market.

He is right when he says that "The need for the terminal has been virtually eliminated.", but that being said, some tasks are still a lot more specific and faster when done from the Terminal. But even without Terminal, the average task is faster on Linux when compared to Windows, especially with awesome distros like Ubuntu and Linux Mint.
 
I believe that you should give Ubuntu a try, you will then know how easy it actually is. People need to remove their misconception about Linux being made for Terminal only which is of course not the case at all.

As long as they make decent phones, then they have all the right to make the profit. They have invested money and they are ought to make profit from it.

Samsung was basically an appliance manufacturer but they made profit and now have expanded into virtually anything you could think of. They have expanded so much only and only because of the profits they make.

So, they are not being greedy, they are doing business, making profits and growing their company and this is what any company should do and this is what all companies do. This is what every phone manufacturer does.

I have a little bias towards Samsung and it is because they provide every basic thing that a phone should have. They have expandable storage across all their devices from the very lower end to the high end, they have removable batteries which is a very nice addition for Android phones as they hog batteries so much. They still have FM Radio in their smartphones which is appreciated by the audience here at India. They have dual sim version of almost every mid range phone for just a little extra which is a big reason why the India crowd prefers Samsung. The reason why they are so successful is because there are no real deal breakers in Samsung smartphones and they provide every sort of freedom one would need with a smartphone. They believe that if a feature phone can have those features, then a high end phone should definitely have it.

Now turn back to someone like HTC who are reporting Loss every quarter. They don't have expandable storage on most of their phones which is a deal breaker for almost everyone in a country like India and China where most of the smartphone sales happen because India and China combines make up for 1/4th of the world population. Alarming but true. HTC on the other hand advertises cloud storage but looking at the poor condition of Internet in India with the average Internet speed just 1 Megabit per second, cloud storage or anything cloud based is virtually a no go. They don't have FM which by the way even a $20 phone has. The build quality of HTC is excellent but there are enough deal breakers already to make people especially in India and China to avoid buying their phones. They now seems to have added the SD card but some things still are there as deal breakers (4 Megapixel camera anyone?)

If you don't like the phone, then you don't have to buy it. As simple as that. Only buy the phone that you want to. Let the companies do their work. The Galaxy S5 still costs the same as the S4 did at launch, so after a year, I would not mind a better hardware and a better display and some more things for the same price.
That being said, again if you don't like it then you can just simply ignore it. Maybe it has no meaning for you, but maybe someone would find that device worth the price and he would go and buy it.

If you read the article someone tore down the phone and based the $256 price on the cost of components on the BOM and an estimated $5 cost to assemble. That still does not include any of the other costs associated with actually producing a product. Samsung never said this phone costs them $256 to make. 
 
You can read the actual article from the company that did the teardown here:
 
http://press.ihs.com/press-release/design-supply-chain/samsung-galaxy-s5-carries-astronomical-bill-materials-ihs-teardown
 
And here's the table showing the cost breakdown:
 

 
And even if it DID cost Samsung only $256 total to make each phone, you're not buying the phone from Samsung. You're buying it from a retailer who also has to make a profit. Everyone in this thread acts like making a profit off something you produce is somehow morally wrong. 

And we're supposed to be angry at a company for turning a profit? Nobody is forcing you to buy the latest and greatest smart phone. 
 
Seriously, most of you guys don't have any idea about what goes into manufacturing electronics. That price of $256 is for the bill of materials. That is literally the cost of the raw materials. It doesn't include overhead for part storage, R&D, prototyping, V&V testing, manufacturing, post manufacturing functionality testing, developing software, licensing software, environmental & safety testing, electromagnetic compliance testing, import/export classification setup, UL testing, marketing, shipping, etc.  I could keep going. 
 
It is expensive to design and manufacture things, especially things that are using new technology. If they are too expensive, don't buy them. 

ITT: People who have no idea about the actual costs of designing and manufacturing electronics.
 
Go ahead and open up your own company where you sell phones at cost and don't pay anything besides the cost of materials. Tell me how that works out for you.

Update : This news is now officially confirmed by the developer himself. More about this on the article linked below.
 
Looks like things are bright for us Linux users with newer and awesome games like Civilization and Star Citizen and a few more making their way to Linux. Also with the newer gaming engines like Unity, Unreal Engine, CryEngine, etc having support for Linux, things are going to get even better.
 
Never had been a better time to be a Linux user. I am really happy to see this. Looks like there are more people than what I expected who want to end Microsoft's monopoly on the gaming industry. Good move Valve. Others will follow.
 
http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/firaxis-games-new-ip-civilization-beyond-earth-will-reportedly-come-to-linux.3474

I was debating giving Linux another go via virtual machine and then noticed this thread. Looks like I have something new to play with. :3

20 million is not much. this is way better than what HTC lost.
 
looks like AMD is back on track

1.advertising  ( a large LARGE chunk)
2.Logistics a LARGE cost
3. packaging
etc
 
that the reason nexus devices are cheap also u can take a look at chinese phones like Xiaomi

It's not exactly 60% profit once you factor in marketing, paying employees and logistics etc but I'm fairly certain they are getting a good deal out of it.

I can't explain why I like Ubuntu so much really. I just do.