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Here are some of the things that I've experienced at school this year alone.
 
Well at my high school some of these pupils have what I would call the "Samsung Virus". Most of them buy Samsung smartphones like me and my friend with our Sony Xperia's.  And the worst part is that they literally annoy everyone who doesn't own a Samsung or an Apple smartphone with "eww is this some Japanese shit" or "you don't own a iPhone, LOSER".
 
A month ago when I was waiting at the school administration there were two girls waiting in front of me and one of them dropped her Galaxy S3 on the ground and it broke instantly and I couldn't hold myself from laughing   (She cried a lot. I'm a bad person)
 
What I find the most annoying thing about our school computers is that some of them just take those key caps and reorganise them to form some disgusting words like: homo, cunt and others are completely torn apart. I mean what is the fun about demolishing stuff? 
 
There is one boy in my class who claims that he's a PC gamer, he heard me and my friend talking about Battlefield 3 and he jumped in to our conversation.
 
He: I own a legit copy of GTA 5 and it's running on my PC! 
My friend: How did you get it, GTA 5 isn't available for PC? 
He: My uncle works at Rockstar studios and he took it for me. 
I knew he was talking nonsense but I continued since it was amusing for us: How many FPS do you run?
He said: I run GTA 5 at 600 FPS at ultra settings!
I said: What is your videocard?
He: it's an high performance GTX 7870 (Yep he said that)
We couldn't stop laughing after hearing this.

Here are some of the things that I've experienced at school this year alone.
 
Well at my high school some of these pupils have what I would call the "Samsung Virus". Most of them buy Samsung smartphones like me and my friend with our Sony Xperia's.  And the worst part is that they literally annoy everyone who doesn't own a Samsung or an Apple smartphone with "eww is this some Japanese shit" or "you don't own a iPhone, LOSER".
 
A month ago when I was waiting at the school administration there were two girls waiting in front of me and one of them dropped her Galaxy S3 on the ground and it broke instantly and I couldn't hold myself from laughing   (She cried a lot. I'm a bad person)
 
What I find the most annoying thing about our school computers is that some of them just take those key caps and reorganise them to form some disgusting words like: homo, cunt and others are completely torn apart. I mean what is the fun about demolishing stuff? 
 
There is one boy in my class who claims that he's a PC gamer, he heard me and my friend talking about Battlefield 3 and he jumped in to our conversation.
 
He: I own a legit copy of GTA 5 and it's running on my PC! 
My friend: How did you get it, GTA 5 isn't available for PC? 
He: My uncle works at Rockstar studios and he took it for me. 
I knew he was talking nonsense but I continued since it was amusing for us: How many FPS do you run?
He said: I run GTA 5 at 600 FPS at ultra settings!
I said: What is your videocard?
He: it's an high performance GTX 7870 (Yep he said that)
We couldn't stop laughing after hearing this.

You tell a lot of great stories on this topic here, keep it going!
 
 
Here is one story that I want to share of the past week at school;
 
My German teacher who also is our class mentor was troubleshooting the school laptop for 6 minutes because it didn't login to the school server so he called me to "fix" it since I knew a lot of computers, as usually...
The problem was that the network cable was unplugged, so I repulgged the network cable and told him that the white round cable was the ethernet cable and not all other black cables like Firewire and DC in cable that he was constantly plugging in and out.
After I begun to walk to my seat about the half of my class started to applaud  B) 

Why would she give you the fault? You didn't do anything to drop that wine in her PC, accordingly to what you've told us. Tell her to stop drinking wine while using a PC like what @xnamkcor did say. 

Well you are indeed right about it but since I didn't want to tell too much of personal information about who that girl was and since you did get confused I might just tell more about it to clarify stuff.
 
The girl who dropped her phone was actually one of the many bully's on Instagram, that social picture sharing site, and she commented many nasty things to non popular kids and recently started attacking one of my class mate. She never did some harm to me (which you're of course right by making that statement) but she was self being wrong by starting bullying innocent kids, just to get recognition for being a "badass" of her group. 
In my opinion, she deserved it. 
I have personally zero tolerance to bullying and if it happens in the front of me I will try my best to protect the innocent kid. 
 
Hopefully I did clarify some stuff out. 

Here are some of the things that I've experienced at school this year alone.
 
Well at my high school some of these pupils have what I would call the "Samsung Virus". Most of them buy Samsung smartphones like me and my friend with our Sony Xperia's.  And the worst part is that they literally annoy everyone who doesn't own a Samsung or an Apple smartphone with "eww is this some Japanese shit" or "you don't own a iPhone, LOSER".
 
A month ago when I was waiting at the school administration there were two girls waiting in front of me and one of them dropped her Galaxy S3 on the ground and it broke instantly and I couldn't hold myself from laughing   (She cried a lot. I'm a bad person)
 
What I find the most annoying thing about our school computers is that some of them just take those key caps and reorganise them to form some disgusting words like: homo, cunt and others are completely torn apart. I mean what is the fun about demolishing stuff? 
 
There is one boy in my class who claims that he's a PC gamer, he heard me and my friend talking about Battlefield 3 and he jumped in to our conversation.
 
He: I own a legit copy of GTA 5 and it's running on my PC! 
My friend: How did you get it, GTA 5 isn't available for PC? 
He: My uncle works at Rockstar studios and he took it for me. 
I knew he was talking nonsense but I continued since it was amusing for us: How many FPS do you run?
He said: I run GTA 5 at 600 FPS at ultra settings!
I said: What is your videocard?
He: it's an high performance GTX 7870 (Yep he said that)
We couldn't stop laughing after hearing this.

I'm starting to feel bad for you, I mean this is why I would call the average life of a teenager tough and especially unfair. I'm 15 at this moment and I have a lot of luck since I'm an only child in the family unlike all my friends who have at least one younger brother or sister and the worst part is that some of them just annoy everyone until they accomplish the thing they wanted. 
 
I've got a 3 years old Packard Bell laptop that still serves me a heck of better job compared to my previous expensive Samsung. If I show you that laptop you might get a bit of a shock since it has dealt with much of "abuse", actually my fellow stupid classmates who did most of the time the "bump each other" competition and my laptop got some serious hits, you get the idea. But still after all of this it still works perfectly and I'm like you taking care of it since it just works 

To you, sure.
 
400% better performance based on what? 4K pushing 4x the pixels and equating that to processing power? That's not really too accurate.
 
You don't even know what the specs are, and an important point is made in the article. There isn't much 4K content out there and many users don't have the internet to back up 4K content streaming. In the end, an Apple TV is for the same basic thing as a Chromecast, except an Apple TV can operate independent of other devices and has Apple's content backend. SHIELD and the Apple TV are for different markets, comparing them doesn't make a lot of sense since SHIELD is expected to be a console-replacement while Apple TV is for making a dumb TV "smart."

It's not dead, it's an alternative.
It led the way, of course it will be superseded and hardly used when better options are out there.
 
Don't begrudge Mantle...it's good it happened, finally shifted the lazy asses elsewhere to concentrate on MOVING forward with the industry instead of sitting in a LULL because people were doing and hearing good things about it... more competition makes benefits to consumers more apparent in shorter time.

Uhm... what?
 
You're comparing an electric car in the 1800's to a modern, computer controlled electric car?
 
The computer controls stuff like voltage protection (So it doesn't draw too much power from the batteries), and limiting the speed of the electric motors so the damn things don't explode.
 
Electric cars in the 1800's were basically hot wheels toys compared to a Tesla, or any other modern electric car.

The EU isn't doing something that helps consumers while the US is? What happened?

These AMD vs. Nvidia debates are a bit ridiculous at times.
 
Let the user buy their card based on the criteria needed to be met and let them enjoy it. It's not your money to spend and no one wants to hear why their purchase was "Wrong" based on reason XYZ. 

alright, we have had enough my TDP is better than your sound and consumption.
a discussion on the flagship GPU was lost in the first couple of pages.
 
so much i'm right you're wrong BS. doubt any minds were changed within this thread
of nonsense.

You realize that you are arguing with nobody right? AMD themselves have already started asking devs to support directX12 and Vulkan, rather than support mantle. Everybody knows that vendor neutral APIs are the future. There was no directX12 when mantle came out, in fact it's still not here.
 
AMD managed to ship Mantle, managed to achieve a proof of concept using a handful of games. And then handed it over to Khronos where it was used as a starting point for Vulkan. Which will replace openGL (since devs don't like openGL) as the cross-platform, vendor independant graphics API with the same benefits as Mantle and DirectX12 but unlike directX the benefits are going to extend to to android, to Apple IOS, to industrial applications, to linux, to mac OSX as well as to windows and to any other platform which allows it.  As you said yourself devs don't have time and resources for mutiple APIs, correct- so they can use vulkan across platforms and simplify their work. We already have experimental drivers and game devs playing with it as we saw at GDC.
 
All this has happened from Mantle.... and directX 12 hasn't even come out yet.
 
Big success story.
 
Your measure of success is different. You think of success as a world where Mantle stays as a proprietary platform for years and years to come as a selling point for AMD GPUs to put on the box, and where it adds fuel to the vendor wars (like GPU physX), and where it creates divisions in the industry in order to push a brand. But that's not the only way of looking at success. Some people have a different philosophy.

^^Those benchmarks only prove the need for this new gen of APIs.
 
LOL. Of course it's not a ripoff. Mantle was used and improved upon in Vulkan with AMD's blessing.
Ripoff makes it sound like a bad thing. When this is an example of industry vendors co-operating to move things forward....

*looks at Wallet* Wallet "Please GabeN no!"

in b4 all the hate. Liquid cooling is why R9 295X2 handily beat Titan Z all the while running cooler and quieter.
I'm all for liquid cooling. You don't void your warranty and it will perform better and be cheaper than buying NZXT G10 + water cooler.

Blame the consumer because the company doesn't correctly advertised their product. Right.
 
Because other companies falsely advertise it's OK for this company to. Right.
 
They did publicly list the spec sheet for buyers as a certain memory bandwidth and 4GB without listing the design of segmented memory. This leads the consumer into assuming (rightfully so) that the memory will all run at the same speed.
 
Consumers purchased the card expecting it to run with all 4GB at full speed, without segmented memory because it wasn't advertised as such. Copying definitions from anywhere is not against CoC, ask a mod. The point is that you said "they didn't list the problem therefore it's not false advertising" which is completely incorrect.

The people who paid money for it.
 
 
 
Then why are you in this thread? Did someone force you to click, read, and respond against you will?

While I see no purpose in overclocking a laptop, the owner who paid for it should have the right to do so even if it voids their warranty. I personally wouldn't care but if someone were to pay upwards of $2k I can see how they could get angry.

I personally think Nvidia is in the wrong on this one. Once I purchase a laptop, I own it and it's mine to do with as I please. I See it like buying a ghz edition graphics card then having it down clocked, I'm no longer getting what I paid for, if I bought it manufactured oc'ed.
I personally do overclock my laptops. I think people forget that just because it doesn't make sense for them doesn't mean it doesn't make since for others. My job requires me to live on an airplane for a week at a time and I travel a lot. I can't bring my desktop with me. So I buy gaming laptops and OC them. I know it will never be as good as my desktop but I use it often enough that I don't want to settle for medium settings when I know it could go to higher settings.

It is everyones freedom to do the heck he want to do with its hardware! if he wants to OC his laptop it is all his freedom to do so....

I think the point here is that if a user wishes to burn up their laptop by overclocking it, who the hell are Nvidia to tell them no?
 
They already paid for it, if they want they can take it out back and throw it in a fire, none of Nvidia's business.

You are missing teh entire point here. 
 
A: Designed for Overclocking. 
To be designed for overclocking, you would need more than just a microcode change. For instance, even a slight change to the chip design, which no Unlocked intel CPU has EVER had. The change is simply to unlock the multiplier, rise the price, and charge for a warranty to make the idiots feel better.  
 
To the same point, and I am going to restate this better since you did not understand it.   AMD and Nvidia put out chips, say the 290x and the 780ti. The chip is the same unit weather it is a Strix, a Lightning, or a reference card. MSI, Saphire, Asus etc can change the board all they want to, it will never be anything more than a tested 290x/780ti, manufactured by AMD/Nvidia, with the same design. If you claim that Desktop parts are designed to overclock (specifically the GPU), it falls into the same boat on laptops. Nvidia/AMD make the chip, and it is the same in most cases (for instance a 680/770 is only a slightly modified 780m/880m).
 
B: There are no unlocked laptop CPUs.
This is strait up bull. The x series cpus on laptops are unlocked (Intel does not allude to this in the specs, but the 5960x and 4790k specs also do not mention it!) Evidence: http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz
and
http://ark.intel.com/products/75133/Intel-Core-i7-4930MX-Processor-Extreme-Edition-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
Evidence for unlocked multi: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7-4930MX%20Mobile%20Extreme%20Edition.html(in notes section) and http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/how-to-overclock-the-alienware-18-and-haswell-cpu-or-actually-have-it-run-full-stock-turbo-speed.734696/ (specifically overclocked (CPU) laptop  and http://www.techpowerup.com/cpudb/1460/core-i7-4930mx.html (decently respectable source).  
 
C: Laptops are very restrictive compared to desktops: 
This argument has been used for decades, and it has never truly been correct, with some exclusions (same can be said of desktops).   Most laptops can be upgraded a lot if you wanted to do so. Almost all (blame netbooks/chromebooks) laptops can have the HDD/SSD changed out for another 2.5" drive, with only a few limiting the height of the drive. Most (slightly less than Storage) can be upgraded on the RAM. Assuming the CPU is not soldered (U and HM on intel are the soldered ones, unless you are using a macbook), and the vender bothered with support beyond one cpu, it is easy to upgrade. If there was BIOS support for it, you can also upgrade GPUs on MXM compatible models (same as PCIe on desktops). 
 
The only way that laptops are more restrictive than desktops is you are limited to 4 cores minus one unit from Eurocom, and you are limited to the powerbrick, which there are laptops that are capable of using up to 330 watts on the brick, and Eurocom has units capable of 660 watts via 2 adapters. If you can not properly OC with their amazing cooling designs, a 90ish watt CPU and 2 100 watt GPUs on 660 watts, then you are abusing Voltage to a dangerous (for your safety) level.  
 
Farther you did not mention core 2, I did. Core 2 was the last ones to not have any unlocked multipliers (maybe the X versions did, Intel specs don't say). Also, are you saying a Q6600 was designed to run 1.4V or 4.3GHz? It is not an unlocked part. The P and X series chipsets did not officially support overclocking at that time. 
 
 
What is being said (probably not very clearly) is that the difference between a "Overclockable" CPU and one that is not (at least on Intel), is the PRICE, and a simple microcode ID tag. A 2500 and a 2500k are the same silicon. If as you say K is designed to overclock, then so is the vanilla 2500, oh wait, sad for you, it can not. The same silicon. It is a money grabbing exercise by intel, nothing more. 
THe GPUs are all the same chips. One is no more designed to overclock than another. They release drivers that allow it, but also viod your warranty, so you take a $200 gable with each MHz...  
(same with RAM, and Northbridge (on LGA775 and before, or all AMD boards)). 
 
What I am trying to say (and failing to do so), is overclocking is not a feature. It is a treat, and a way to make Intel some more money. 
 
EDIT: Fixing the INtel links. 

I think the problem is that it's hard to determine if a failure was caused by overclocking or just a defect product. Overclocking on laptops is not a good idea to begin with, so there is probably a much higher risk of the GPU breaking from overclocking in a laptop compared to a desktop.
I think this is just Nvidia trying to protect themselves from a massive amount of RMAs from stupid users breaking their laptops. It seems like they have locked overclocking on the highest end GPUs as well so it is not a cause of "let's lock the low end parts so people don't just buy those and overclock them to match the high end parts" (see: Intel).
It's a shame for the responsible overclockers but dumb people need restrictions to not overdo things, and those restrictions have to apply to smart people as well.