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It is hard to tell from a random game. The way I do it is see if I am in close to average on the Time Spy graph. This is what it looks like. This score is close enough to average so it is fine considering most people overclock their CPUs and GPUs to run the bench. If there was a big gap between my score and average then I would be worried.

Since the early 90s I have only used gaming PCs for work. If I needed more rendering power I built more PCs. The Quadros I bought were all used since there is a very little chance that they got abused. Sort of a safe bet.

I used Quadros mainly for the better anti aliasing in OpenGl viewports but when I went with 4k monitors in 2015 I stopped using them. Most of my 3D was CPU and only in 2017 did I start using GPU on main projects. So I have never used less than 11gbs for rendering a project. If I had to start working again I know that all my stages would work with that amount of vram so it would be a risk with less. For 3D as a hobby I would use Blender and I would have no problem using my 3080. I have been doing projects with hardware limitations since the 80s so I know how to get more out of less.

Nvidia now has powerful mid range cards. So to stop high end users from buying them as an alternative they have limited their vram. Makes sense to me. I was a content creator(retired) and have been using 11gbs vram since 2017(1080 ti) so before the RTX 3080 ti came along the 3090 was the only upgrade. I ended up using 3 GTX 1080 tis, 3 RTX 2080 tis and if I was still working I would have gotten 3 3090s.

My i9 10900k computer is going productivity only soon so it won't be plugged into my bedroom OLED any more so I need a replacement. Since I don't want to downgrade to an Intel 11th gen 8 core and I don't want to use Windows 11 that is needed for an Intel next gen CPU, I will go with a 5900x. CPU = AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor $549.00 CPU Cooler = Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $199.99 Motherboard = Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero ATX AM4 Motherboard $449.99 Memory = Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $224.99 Storage = Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen4 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $399.99 Video Card = Asus GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB ROG STRIX WHITE OC Video Card $2350.00 Case = Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case $169.99 Power Supply = EVGA G2 1300 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $299.99 OS = Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit $139.88 Case Fan = Corsair LL120 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack $129.99 $4,913.81 I will most likely build this so it would be nice if it wasn't paid for by me.

Yes. Even my AORUS Master x570 needed one.

It is a good upgrade. 4 cores, 4 threads to 6 cores 12 threads is a big jump and the best upgrade you can do now. My only advice is get a motherboard that can handle a Ryzen 5000 CPU so you have an upgrade path in the future. I would start with watching motherboard videos.

It is 60hz so not a good gaming display. OLEDs lifespans is in hours so check the hours before you buy. My 2019 B9 was perfect for 4900 hours but burned in after that.

That will be a bit of a dilemma for me. My i9 10900k is on a Z490 board. I was not planning to getting a 3080 but an old auto notify came up so I went for it. Overall it is only 10 frames faster than my 2080 tis but they were always overclocked and the 3080 isn't. I am considering building a second one but it will depend on availability at the end of the year.

I create my own data and it is not really fair. The i9s have their power limits removed and the i7s have 5ghz overclocks. In that company the 5800x does not stand out unless I am playing Total War Warhammer 2. It is really good at that game.

I only picked the 11700KF because of the higher IPC. This matters in building games more than in AAA games. My Space Engineers saves are smooth on the i9 10900k and 5800x but are a stuttering mess on the i9 9900k unless it is overclocked. The i9 9900k stock produces the exact same frames as the i9 10900k in Shadow of the Tomb Raider and beats the 5800x. The biggest waist of money on my 5800x rig is the PCie 4 SSD sine it is only fast reading and writing to itself. My games are on a SATA SSD so I defeated its purpose. The 5800x rig with PCie 4 did not win against the PCie 3 i9 9900k rig in Port Royal when they used the same GPU. That was a bit of a shock to me. My i7 8700k ran stock with a GTX 1080 ti but with a 2080 ti it had to be overclocked to get the most out of the GPU. Both my i7 8086ks and i9 9900k were overclocked from day one for the same reason. My 5800x was stock with the 2080 ti but with the 3080 ti it is overclocked. The same thing will happen when the i9 10900k gets a 3080 ti or 3090. What saves me next gen is that I game at 4k on a TV so all I need is 120fps at 4k and my CPUs can do that now. So I think I am in a good place for next gen GPUs.

The 8 cores are easier to cool. The down side is unless you have a 3070 ti or better it is not much on an upgrade. The difference between the 10th and the 11th gen is IPC and you will only really see it in games that you add content to like Space Engineers or Minecraft since you can add more before it starts to stutter. The i9 10900k does have high IPC as well but it has to be overclocked or use TVB to compete with 11th gen or Ryzen 5000. For gaming I would get the 11700KF but for productivity I would want the 10 core.

I have a EVGA XC3 Ultra 3080 ti in a CM H500p Mesh. With a FTW3 Ultra 2080 ti It did fine but the card ran 3c hotter than the card did in an old CM HafX. When I put the XC3 Ultra in it, the card ran even hotter than the 2080 ti so benching with the side panel on was impossible. What I found was that hot air was being trapped underneath the card and was not escaping out the back of the case. To get the air out of the case I added a 60mm exhaust fan below the card and now even benching with the default fan curve it runs at 77c. Here is what it looks like.

Are you playing at 4k. The video is 4k gaming and that uses a lot more power than 1440p or 1080p. When my 5800x and i9 10900k both used FTW3 Ultra 2080 ti the i9 always could get more out of the GPU at 4k. The extra frames did not change the game play but it always won. My 5800x is using a EVGA XC3 Ultra 3080 ti but it is only has 2 8pins and 366 watts in the bios but it uses 375 watts max in Metro at 4k with RT. My 3080 is hooked up to a i9 9900k right now and I only have AC:O installed of the games in the video and I am using slightly more power with a higher mhz with slightly less frames. That is where the i9 10900k comes in.

I am not a fan of RGB but since I build for others I like to have samples and experience doing it. So both my gaming PCs are RGB. It is also the reason I built the Ryzen. All my builds have been Intel so I had zero experience with Ryzen. I chose the 5800x because it has cooling issues. It will eventually be replaced with a 12 or 16 core. I didn't really have a budge for this build. Except for the aio I used stuff I had lying around.

My 5800x was stock when I decides to use the AIO. I did test with PBO and now the CPU has an overclocked and the temps are the same as stock since that was the intention. It also turned out to be very convenient. I had 3 choices to cool the 5800x. First was the Dark Rock Pro 4. It was bought for the i9 10900k build but It was not able to keep the i9 below 70c while gaming. The i9 ended up with a 360 AIO that did enable it to run games below 70c. I rejected it for the 5800x because it was a RGB build and the ram I wanted to use(Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro) does not fit underneath it. The ram was in a 2019 build that was converted to productivity so it like the DRP 4 was already paid for. I also had a Noctua NH-D15 available that I remove from my test bench rig since it got in the way. The problem with it is that it did not fit in a case that I choose for the build with 2 fans installed and it is not RGB friendly. I have re cased 3 of my computers so far that use NH-D15 and all had to go to 1 fan to fit. Fortunately these are all productivity computers so they don't need the second fan. The EVGA 360mm AIO I did install was on my test bench rig so I did not have to perches that either. Since it was bought for a test bench it was not RGB so it was only used to test the fitment and cooling of the build. It was replaced with an EK 360mm that has about the same cooling, RGB and a bit quieter. Since I only had 2 AIO builds at the time I used a Gamers Nexus video to help with the pick. So RGB and all the parts I had on shelves dictated what I used. Only the EK was bought for the build and only that for RGB.

You don't know if yours is going to run hot until it is installed and tested. I have a Dark Rock 4 Pro sitting in a box that was going into the build but after reading post after post of people complaining about heat I went with an AIO. I like cool CPUs and I am getting that so I am happy.

Sorry. Got posts mixed up. My 5800x like others is a bit toasty so it is using a 360mm AIO. With your cooling solution it will be more than toasty.

The high end 3080 tis go for $2000 like the MSI SUPRIM X or the ASUS ROG Strix OC. They have boost clocks of 1845mhz. The most expensive card I will go for is the MSI Gaming X Trio at $1769.99. At more money I want a 3090.

It is the MSRP. It has the same boost clock as my EVGA XC3 Ultra that cost $1200.

Anything that will run on 3440 X 1440 will run on it. G-Sync "Compatible" is better than Freesync but only slightly belter than Freesync premium. The module works slightly better but has issues so it is off on my LG 1440p 144hz monitor. Overclocking means they usually have to drop from 10 bit to 8 bit so not worth it for me. Mine is not used as a gaming monitor. I have OLEDs for that. The wall mount VESA I had for my 32" LG that is rated for 14lbs and it did not work on it since the monitor is about 18lbs. I never got another one. I have a 34" 3440 X 1440p monitor that I used for several years and all my games that worked on it work the same on the 38". Some older games like Fallout 4 I used mods to fix everything but if you make a custom resolution in the Nvidia control panel for 1440p it most game will run at that. I even played DosBox games on it. The monitor is taller than a 27" monitor so you don't get that "I am looking through a pillbox slit" feeling. It does take a lot more to run. When I went from a 1440p to a 3440 X 1440 monitor and then to a 3840 X 1600 monitor it was a 40 frame lose in most games. This is what it looks like going from 1440p to 380 X 1600 in SOTTR. If you don't have a 2080 ti/3070 ti or better it is not worth it.

Here is the score I did with a stock i7 6700k and a stock EVGA 1080 SC. 1080p, 8x AA, quality ultra and tessellation extreme. This is with an overclocked i7 8086k with a stock Gigabyte Extreme GTX 1080. 1080p, 8x AA, quality ultra and tessellation extreme.

They need more cooling so larger CPU cooler, better VRMs and a high airflow case so it is not just the price of the CPU. Hardware Unboxed has really good videos on motherboards. Must watch for Ryzen 5000 buyers.

If you are a 1080p gamer go 5600x If you are a 1440p gamer go 5600x If you are a 4k gamer it does not matter yet. I got the 5800x.

I have a i9 10900k. be quiet! Dark Rock Pro: Not enough cooling. I have one. Tried it. Discarded it. Asus TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS i9: Not Tuf enough. Get a Hero. Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000: Nice. Seagate Barracuda 2 TB: Your system is as slow as your slowest drive. Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive: Fast enough. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB Founders Edition: A bit toasty. I am going for a ROG Stix OC to stay cool. be quiet! Pure Base 500 ATX Mid Tower Case: Hot box. You need a Corsair 5000D, lian li pc-o11 or equivalent. Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold. My i9 10900k setup uses 766 watts from the wall overclocked and I have not got a 3090 for it yet(may get a 3080 ti). I have a 5800x and my get a 5900x in the future. AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core. Nice. be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4: Let me count how many posts I have read that use this on a 5900x and are complaining about heat. Too many. Get a 360mm EK or Arctic Liquid Freezer. Asus TUF B450-PLUS GAMING ATX AM4: Get a Hero or Master. Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600: Nice. Seagate Barracuda 2 TB. No. Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB: Still fast enough. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition. Ok I guess. be quiet! Pure Base 500: Still a hot box. Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold: It may do but I would still go for 1000. High end is not cheap unless you like the idea of coming back here to complain about heat. If you do want cheap go for a i7 10700k or a R5600x and a RTX 3070 ti or 3080. These are much more manageable.