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    Thanks for Your Advice, Here's Attempt #2 at My 1st Gaming PC

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    4 minutes ago, EarthWormJM2 said:

    Well the main reason is you can get 2TB on a HDD for the same price as a 256GB SSD. So cost is the main factor. To a lesser degree, SSDs have a finite amount of read/writes it can do before it dies, tho usually its very high and you can get 5-10yrs on normal use. Also, it is overkill for certain things like video/music/picture storage or older games that don't really benefit from faster load times on an SSD. Like Fallout 4 is a big offender of long load times and an SSD cuts that to about 1/3 the time. I just recommend a slightly larger SSD so you can put a few of those newer games with really long load times on it, unless that really doesn't bother you too much. Also, large open world games that stream in objects and textures on the fly will benefit a little bit as well from an SSD as it can load those assets faster, basically reducing any frame rate drops that can happen for a second when the HDD is loading in assets. 

     

    Either way I think you will be very pleased with your new build, Good job so far!

    I gotcha, thanks for the explanation!!!

    Thanks for Your Advice, Here's Attempt #2 at My 1st Gaming PC

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    8 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

    For maximum utility in gaming, I'd get the 8700 (non-k) on a Z370 and push the memory timings as far as I could get. 3200 or 3400 with really tight timings (would take some hand-tuning) will extra maximum performance from at least the next full generation of GPUs. Likely 2 full generations. After that, improvements in I/O will allow new CPUs to perform better.

    Gotcha. I think the 8400 will end up lasting long enough to me. By the time I feel the need to upgrade the graphics card, I'll probably need to upgrade a lot more stuff in there anyways. Thanks!

    Thanks for Your Advice, Here's Attempt #2 at My 1st Gaming PC

    in New Builds and Planning

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    4 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

    https://www.techspot.com/review/1613-amd-ryzen-2700x-2600x/page3.html

     

    Yeah it looked like at MOST, there was maybe a 10fps difference between the two, but usually the same give or take 1fps, and that was with the 1080 ti giving them all the room in the world to run at their max potential. Anyways, my pc gaming life has always consisted of cranking all settings to minimum in 720p with 45fps max in the worlds most optimized game from 2012. Definitely seems like the 8400 is the way to go here, thank you!

    Thanks for Your Advice, Here's Attempt #2 at My 1st Gaming PC

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    5 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

    Without a 1080 Ti, almost none. That's why we recommend saving the 50USD and getting the 8400. Or going up a little further for the 8700 (non-k). In the past, the x600k part had enough space from the ones below to make a useful purchase. Isn't really true in this generation.

    Ok so it seems like the 8600 isn't the way to go. If it were you, do you think it would be worth it to pay extra for the 8700 to future proof a little bit (new graphics card down the road) or just save the money now since the 8400 is just fine for this build? How often do people upgrade their graphics card, and would the 8400 still be strong enough that it wouldn't bottleneck a newer graphics card maybe a year or two down the road?

    Thanks for Your Advice, Here's Attempt #2 at My 1st Gaming PC

    in New Builds and Planning

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    4 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

    4.0 Ghz single core on the 8400 vs 4.3 Ghz single core on the 8600k. Unless you're OC'ing hard, the 8600k brings almost no testable gaming performance difference.

    Ah I see. Yeah this is going to primarily be for gaming so if there isn't a real difference for that, then I'm down to save a few extra bucks. How much of a difference will overclocking make? and I'm guessing that you're basing their similar performance on them both being overclocked?

    Thanks for Your Advice, Here's Attempt #2 at My 1st Gaming PC

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    44 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

    It's okay, but you might want to move up a tier or two in the PSU tier rankings.

     

     

    Other thing: why the 8600k? Generally either the 8400 or the 8700(k) are the suggested options in the 8th Gen.

    Added a better PSU, and I did some very basic research when I picked the 8600k. I just read around a bit on random sites and came to the conclusion that I want an 8th gen chip, the i7 is really expensive, and multiple sites said the 8th gen i5 was good for gaming. From there I saw that the 8400k had a stock clock speed of 2.8GHz and the 8600k had 3.6GHz, so I went for the higher clock speed. If you have a better explanation on why I should choose which chip, I'd love to hear it! That was just my super basic thought process.

    Thanks for Your Advice, Here's Attempt #2 at My 1st Gaming PC

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    38 minutes ago, EarthWormJM2 said:

    Also, you may what a higher resolution monitor. With that cpu/gpu combo, you can really push 60+ fps at 1440p (2k) with max settings in almost every game. The increased resolution may be worth it, unless you really want to be hitting that 144hz.

    I usually prefer the 144hz stuff. I can definitely tell the difference in how much nicer a 4k display looks than a 1080p one, but I'm usually more interested in higher fps. It might be a combo of growing up with playing graphically challenged nintendo consoles (compared to xbox and playstation) and a little bit of ptsd from playing every single game I own at 20fps with the lowest settings on my laptop.

    Thanks for Your Advice, Here's Attempt #2 at My 1st Gaming PC

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    35 minutes ago, Lurick said:

    Swapped the PSU to something of better quality and the WiFi card around to allow more functionality down the road.

    Changed the SSD to a bigger SSD for a few bucks more.

     

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($238.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Amazon)
    Thermal Compound: ARCTIC - MX4 4g Thermal Paste  ($4.29 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: MSI - Z370 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($111.88 @ OutletPC)
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($158.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.87 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  ($539.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($33.89 @ OutletPC)
    Case Fan: Corsair - ML120 Pro LED Red 75.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($27.31 @ Amazon)
    Case Fan: Corsair - ML120 Pro LED Red 75.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($27.31 @ Amazon)
    Total: $1376.48
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-21 11:13 EDT-0400

    Looks solid to me! I forgot to change the PSU, a few people recommended it before too. As for the wifi card, I'll trust you on it, but what do you mean by allowing it to have more functionality down the road? Is it just faster?

    Thanks for Your Advice, Here's Attempt #2 at My 1st Gaming PC

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    32 minutes ago, EarthWormJM2 said:

    I think that is a very solid build. I don't see any incompatabilities there. I would say if you want to shell out the $$ a 1080ti will give you more performance, but that really only applies if you are looking to play in 4k or extremely high refresh rates. Maybe a larger SSD so you can fit some of the big games with long load times on it to speed up those load times. but neither of those are necessary. I'd say you done good kid.

    Thanks! I might upgrade to a better graphics card down the road, but this should be plenty for me right now. Since it's my first setup, I also have to worry about getting a monitor and keyboard which I probably won't worry about for a long time. And I know SSDs give faster load times, so why don't people only use an SSD as their only storage device? Is it just because storing stuff besides some games and the OS is just overkill for the price? Either way, I'll definitely look into a larger SSD.

    Thanks for Your Advice, Here's Attempt #2 at My 1st Gaming PC

    in New Builds and Planning

    Posted · Edited by TaylorDean16
    Update on what's changed in the build without reading through all comments

    Hey guys, thanks for everyone's help on my original post! Using advice I got from there as well as from reddit, here is what I now have for my build. A lot about the pc itself has changed, and I've also decided to shell out the extra cash for a 144hz display. Huge credit goes to u/bewmsday on reddit with most of the actual pc stuff. Once again, are there any compatibility issues? Should I get more fans? Is this power supply good enough? Will there be any bottlenecking? Do you have a complete setup just as good or better at the same price? I Will add that I'm willing to spend a few extra bucks here and there if it means better performance. 

    Thanks!!

     

    PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LXPg3b


    Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LXPg3b/by_merchant/

     

    CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($238.99 @ Amazon) 


    CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 


    Thermal Compound: ARCTIC - MX4 4g Thermal Paste  ($4.29 @ SuperBiiz) 


    Motherboard: MSI - Z370 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($111.88 @ OutletPC) 


    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($158.99 @ Newegg) 


    Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($38.31 @ Amazon) 


    Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.87 @ OutletPC) 


    Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  ($539.99 @ Newegg) 


    Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 


    Power Supply: EVGA - BQ 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ B&H) 


    Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($35.85 @ Amazon) 


    Case Fan: Corsair - ML120 Pro LED Red 75.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($27.31 @ Amazon) 


    Case Fan: Corsair - ML120 Pro LED Red 75.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($27.31 @ Amazon) 


    Total: $1366.76


    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-21 10:36 EDT-0400

     

    Other Stuff:

     

    Keyboard

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=32N-001R-00021&cm_re=cherry_mx_blue-_-32N-001R-00021-_-Product

     

    Mouse (I'm not a pro gamer so mouse performance isn't SUPER important. As long as it looks cool in black and red but is still actually a decent mouse)

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16826197148

     

    144hz Display

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824011182&cm_re=monitor-_-24-011-182-_-Product

     

    Mousepad

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J2EF4K6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=pewdieproduct-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00J2EF4K6&linkId=91abf2ece231d6b618d799120122a8dc

     

     

    UPDATE

    Based on everyone's suggestions, here are the changes I made.

    1. Switched PSU to Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

    2. Switched CPU from i5 8600k to 8400 (Had no noticeable difference in gaming, especially with my graphics card)

    3. Bigger SSD

    4. Better WiFi card

     

    Everything's looking pretty good to me at this point. If anyone knows another cool case that will fit all this stuff for cheap, I'd love to hear it! Thanks for all the help guys!

    $1600ish 1st Time Build; Advice, Rookie Mistakes, and Incompatibility

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    So I've finally saved up enough to build my first gaming computer. What I was going for was pretty high performance, but keeping within a reasonable price. The list of parts for the PC will be listed below, and I haven't purchased anything yet. Will there be any type of bottlenecking anywhere? And what are my options to fix it? Do I have all the parts that I actually need to make a working computer? And is there anything in there that you know sucks but I don't, or if I can get similar or equal performance for a better price? (For example, I have the 8th gen i5 but I know that Ryzen processors are way cheaper). I plan to use the PC to play the generic eye roll AAA titles that everyone plays like the latest Call of Duties, Assassins Creeds, and PUBG. If this build is completely broken and you have a great build in the $1600 to $1700ish range, then I'd love to hear about your superior skills! Please take it easy on me if I look like an idiot, I've never done this before! I am also willing to lose a frame or two if it means big savings!

    Thanks!

     

     

    [PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tB3H3b) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tB3H3b/by_merchant/)

    Type|Item|Price

    :----|:----|:----

    **CPU** | [Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mr2rxr/intel-core-i5-8600k-36ghz-6-core-processor-bx80684i58600k) | $238.99 @ Amazon

     

    **CPU Cooler** | [CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7) | $34.99 @ Amazon

     

    **Thermal Compound** | [ARCTIC - MX4 4g Thermal Paste](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HBXfrH/arctic-cooling-thermal-paste-acmx4) | $4.29 @ SuperBiiz

     

    **Motherboard** | [Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3MJkcf/asus-prime-z370-a-atx-lga1151-motherboard-prime-z370-a) | $159.99 @ Newegg Business

     

    **Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y8rcCJ/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m1a2400c16r) | $83.98 @ Newegg

     

    **Storage** | [Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006) | $58.87 @ OutletPC

     

    **Video Card** | [NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Founders Edition Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4ZrmP6/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb-founders-edition-video-card-900-1g411-2510-000) | $542.99 @ Amazon

     

    **Power Supply** | [EVGA - BQ 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8P7CmG/evga-bq-500w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-110-bq-0500-k1) | $29.99 @ B&H

     

    **Operating System** | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140) | $95.89 @ OutletPC

     

    **Wireless Network Adapter** | [TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G4H323/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwdn4800) | $35.80 @ Amazon

     

    **Case Fan** | [Corsair - ML120 Pro LED Red 75.0 CFM 120mm Fan](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MpBrxr/corsair-co-9050042-ww-750-cfm-120mm-fan-co-9050042-ww) | $27.31 @ Amazon

     

    **Case Fan** | [Corsair - ML120 Pro LED Red 75.0 CFM 120mm Fan](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MpBrxr/corsair-co-9050042-ww-750-cfm-120mm-fan-co-9050042-ww) | $27.31 @ Amazon

     

    | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |

    | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1430.39

    | Mail-in rebates | -$30.00

    | **Total** | **$1400.39**

    | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2018-06-21 04:24 EDT-0400 |

     

    Also

     

    Monitor

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4P06J93614&cm_re=monitor-_-0JC-0004-006F4-_-Product

     

    Case

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811139040

     

    Keyboard

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=32N-001R-00021&cm_re=cherry_mx_blue-_-32N-001R-00021-_-Product

     

    Mouse

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16826197148

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