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I sense disturbance in the force   it was million of wafer dropped in terror, and went cracked

the i5 Beating Ryzen 9 in gaming is nothing crazy claim, it's all depend on the clock of both Configuration used for testing, on Laptop environment, it's down how each model are implementing their CPU boosting behavior

thing is, rarely game fully load the 6 core CPU or even 8 core, even today  the Flagship Ryzen 9 perform better at gaming not necessary because it has more core, but because the boost clock is higher than the 6 core model
 
productivity on the other hand scale well with core count,
 
Unpopular Opinion : Platform Wise, I think TGL H45 will be superior platform than Cezanne, especially it term on IO, I expect the performance between platform will be very close but TGL IO simply superior
 
which mean  OEM can slap PCiE 4x for Video card on Intel Laptop and it will has same Bandwidth as PCIe 8x on Ryzen one, which mean they can add more port? maybe more TB idk, let's see what they came out later down the road

is this standard case?

anyway, GPU Price is very spectacular atm, if you intrested on buying new card, be sure to lookout for the price as well as no one can really say how much GPU price atm, it's really bad and you need to regularly check the pricing and stock atm

but should you want to upgrade the CPU I have something for you, get modern one, in socket upgrade for 1151 kind of meh

 
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£124.90 @ Currys PC World Business) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler  (£36.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B560M MORTAR WIFI Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (£127.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £288.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-18 14:18 BST+0100

you can reuse the RAM, storage, but you get better platform overall

11400F is faster than 3600.in all workload, while also being cheaper

B560 board cost generally same as B550

For just gaming and light streaming I would avoid overpaid for 5600x, get 11400F, and spend the budget on what make you more competitive, better mouse, keyboard or some high refresh rate monitor
 
 
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i5-11400F 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (kr1649.00 @ NetOnNet) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr359.89 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B560 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (kr1862.95 @ Computersalg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (kr1008.45 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Case: Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (kr1890.00 @ CDON SE) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (kr1227.22 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Total: kr7997.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-18 14:59 CEST+0200
 
I save you some money, you can get better monitor, or keyboard, mouse, webcam or anything 

For just gaming and light streaming I would avoid overpaid for 5600x, get 11400F, and spend the budget on what make you more competitive, better mouse, keyboard or some high refresh rate monitor
 
 
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i5-11400F 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (kr1649.00 @ NetOnNet) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr359.89 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B560 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (kr1862.95 @ Computersalg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (kr1008.45 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Case: Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (kr1890.00 @ CDON SE) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (kr1227.22 @ Amazon Sweden) 
Total: kr7997.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-18 14:59 CEST+0200
 
I save you some money, you can get better monitor, or keyboard, mouse, webcam or anything 

on Newegg, 11400F cost 179$ while 3600 cost 259$

On Review 11400F Lead Both Single Core and Multicore Score on Cinebench 


 
if you say get 3600 over 11400F in any day, I honestly don't know what to say, In socket upgrade not really a thing, you will not upgrade this CPU in at least 3 year, and after 3 year a much modern platform on midrange will exist that will trash even the Flagship 5950x in most workload

like I said, AMD is too expensive for it's price, totally not worth it

Both intel and amd will change socket next release, AMD only committed  AM4 for 2020 and Intel always support 2 gen per socket
 
At the end of the day buy the one give best price/performance, and AMD isn’t there, I don’t see there is reason why pay premium for 3600 over 11400F and 10400F
 
when the time 3600/10400f/11400f already too slow for your need the new modern, superior midrange offering will exist which is the go to upgrade instead getting higher tier AM4 ryzen

Swap that Ryzen CPU with Intel one, 5600x is too expensive for Gaming Build and allocate the leftover budget for Higher Tier Video card or Just Save them
 
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i5-11400F 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€175.85 @ Computeruniverse) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler  (€25.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock B560 Steel Legend ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (€139.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €340.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-15 15:12 CEST+0200


At the end you will be GPU Bound, unless you play CSGO on 1080p Low Setting and complain missing 70 fps once FPS already above 300

Don't fuss so much about Upgradability it will take a years before that CPU hold u back and when it did u might as well as go buy new platform with DDR5 and whatever new tech they sell at that time
 
 

I think your earlier Z490 board already correct one, it has good IO, Decent VRM and lot of feature

that B560 from Asrock is entry level, sure it cheaper but it lack of feature since it's the cheapest model of B560 series, it also only have 2 RAM slot, so u might can't upgrade more ram if needed

This is gaming build right? the focus are playing a AAA games, so u don't want to overspend on your CPU, and put most of the budget on GPU

also mind that the PC partpicker do not give GPU the price, please mind that your List are not with Video card

I swap the CPU and the board to save some money without losing much of gaming performance, you'll have more budget for your Video card
 
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i7-10700F 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($264.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B560M AORUS PRO AX Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($117.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: *Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING OC Video Card 
Case: NZXT H510i ATX Mid Tower Case  ($96.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 11 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.00 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($108.78 @ Other World Computing) 
Monitor: ViewSonic XG2405 23.8" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($209.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1361.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-07 06:54 EDT-0400
 

Z490 is okay, but please check B560 Board as well, H410 were... very Barebone, and The VRM is no good because it was targeted for i3/ Pentium System

just go with any Z490/B560 board you can fit on that 160$ budget, Throw some Memory Overclocking with High speed memory and u good to go

Once you start making money with your programming job, maybe you can afford a real GPU sometimes in future where the price make sense

I prefer waiting for now

SSMS is kind of heavy depend on how large the dataset,
Visual Studio, Android studio, ect, many stuff having more core is acceptable, and benefit more than long run


 

he is programing, having more core is fine, for running SSMS together with Visual studio, maybe some android emulator on his android studio

do you really need K series SKU? are you planning to overclocking? honestly 10th Gen boost clock already really high and all you need is unlock the power limit
 
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i7-10700 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($280.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI Z490-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($168.99 @ Walmart) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($87.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Adorama) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA GD (2019) 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($84.22 @ Amazon) 
Total: $787.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-07 07:03 EDT-0400
 
here take few $ off, the PSU is fine

get some optiplex with i5/i7 and use that GPU on that optiplex

be sure to get the full tower version not the slim tower

8 core 16 thread with Xe IGPU

Basically best gaming CPU period, since dedicated card do not exist in 2021

Nope

Rocket Lake is Very usable and practical CPU, 

FX is just... Not Practical to use, Run Extremely Hot, Get Destroyed by mere 4 core CPU
No one match FX Disasters

8 core 16 thread with Xe IGPU

Basically best gaming CPU period, since dedicated card do not exist in 2021

Nope

Rocket Lake is Very usable and practical CPU, 

FX is just... Not Practical to use, Run Extremely Hot, Get Destroyed by mere 4 core CPU
No one match FX Disasters

8 core 16 thread with Xe IGPU

Basically best gaming CPU period, since dedicated card do not exist in 2021

Before Bob appointed as full time CEO, he continuedly refuse the full time offer, as he know that he is not the right man to the job, He is CFO and based on information he have he know how the company doing, 

But board director pushing him for it, since they can't convince other candidate to take the role, Intel Problem is CEO related, but not background related, but desicion Related
 
engineer CEO named Brian Kraznich make couple of bad desicion, causing 10nm delay, while making many big budget acquisition
 
 

The goal about M1 is less about performance, it's more about less user upgradeable, less repairable, and making Mac Ecocsystem much more like iOS

in future apple will make all program on Mac Only available on their Store, and will impose 30% cut or 15% depend on the future policy on all software on mac ecosystem.

On my Region, Going Locked Intel is far cheaper than Ryzen, even before 5000 series released, since I am not live in America or Canada but in indonesia, the difference between 30$ can seriously impact buying desicion because when it translated to local currency the difference feel so huge and enough for people to give up overclocking support

Currently I am rocking B460m Aorus Pro + 10400F, the price breakdown is bellow

10400F : 2.300.000 IDR
B460m Aorus : 1.800.000 IDR

when checking AMD Equivalent 
R5 3600 : 3.300.000 IDR
B450M Aorus : 2.000.000

Sure, can go lower end board, and such but even the CPU already 1.000.000 IDR Premium, which is 1/4 of minimum wage here, giving up overclocking support by going intel allow me to going with better GPU, or even 1 month lunch allowance, and that's how many people build their PC here, and I can see this is happening too on many region which have weaker currency

Ryzen did make 10400F exist and it's such a great CPU, and I hope the next cheap CPU is great too
 
Not to mention Xeon still the best on market, not by performance, but by overall platform, AMD may have performance leadership, but they still far behind in software side and ecosystem,