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1 minute ago, freeagent said:

Oh believe me I know. I thought these things (Zen 3) were fragile at first.. nope.

 

You wont hurt the CPU.

 

Edit:

 

My sig says 5900X, but it only takes a few minutes to drop my X3D back in.

Tried to see in bios for the PBO but I guess they removed it in a newer bios update? Oh well I might figure out a way to set it up so it launches the setting at a click or something because I know for sure that after a certain point I just can't be bothered clicking it and inputting again haha.

Right now my tdie was at 42.3 at idle but of course it spikes a little bit up to 50's because of background processes I suppose? (Aura sync, steam, discord and stuff)

I do notice that my core temperatures are sitting in the mid 30's though so not sure what the difference between them is?

7 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Windows tends to get confused and install drivers from the repository instead of the latest ones that were installed with the previous CPU, I found that out in multiple CPU upgrades over the years, at home and at work. The last time was when I upgraded from the 5900X to the 5800X3D.

Strange I installed the driver again and now my ryzen power plans are gone?

27 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

sounds good  leave it -25 see how it runs for a week... but yeah temps look good, and some spikes to 83 really dont matter at all.

Ya I'm kinda curious to see if I can bring it down more but I'm just worried about crashes. About to play some games and see what my temps are. Downloaded HWInfo so I can get accurate temperature readings instead of afterburner (heard it got discontinued?)

25 minutes ago, freeagent said:

58X3D is clocked super low, -30 at 4450 isn't pushing it

Guess I'm kinda worried about crashes. Just always have the feeling I'm going to break something you know? I am ordering some hydronaut paste so I can replace the stock paste that came with my waterblock. Guess I'll know this weekend if I got good coverage as well haha.

21 hours ago, Shimejii said:

Your temps are normal. In Cyberpunk my 5800x3d Gets to about 83c, with doing PBO2 Tuner it gets down to about 75c. Some games will make it a bit more toasty. 

 

For instance Minecraft can make your CPU go to 85-90c on a solo world with a large enough view distance, and if its quite a CPU intensive game it will be quite toasty.

 

3800x should have been around 70-80c as well. 

 

What radiators and fan speeds do you have the the CPU portion of your loop?

 

Highly reccomend pbo2 Tuner, do -25 all cores, and since your on water you could probably do a bit on the TDC and EDC, i use 120 PPT, 80 TDC and 110 EDC on a NH-D15, you can try that and see how it goes for you.

So I followed your settings with PBO2, no crash after a 12 minute stress test with OCCT currently. Still have a max of 83 but the average is only around 66.79c right now. Hasn't gone over 83 yet and generally stays pretty low considering. Still getting full boost clocks as well! I might try to see if I can do -30 instead of -25 but I don't know if I want to push it? 

6 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Windows tends to get confused and install drivers from the repository instead of the latest ones that were installed with the previous CPU, I found that out in multiple CPU upgrades over the years, at home and at work. The last time was when I upgraded from the 5900X to the 5800X3D.

Hmm alright, so you're saying the power plan I'm currently using is meant for my 3800x and not my 5800X3D? So that could cause some issues I'm assuming?

6 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

most motherboards  can't do it (because its not supported on 5800x3D) but if your mobo can then do it in BIOS

 

-10 to -30 UV/offset , again,  very simple (if your mobo has that option and it's working,  which isnt a given either) 

Downloaded the PBO2 tuner. Working at a -25 offset now. Using OCCT as a tool for checking stability. That tool is not a very realistic workload right? When I was at -20 I saw highs still spike to the 80's but my average over a 10 min run was 69 I think?

6 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

im saying water is not inherently better than air, no, why would it, actually water is worse in many cases, not at last due to the very obvious risks, and please read again i already told you how to get lower temps.  (read the github link, its very simple )

Why would you want to use software instead of bios though? Is this something that you can't interact with without the software?

7 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

actually it should,  thats normal temps for this chip... undervolting makes it a lot cooler though. 

 

Also just because its water cooled doesn't mean its automatically better than air (it isnt) my 5800x3D is significantly cooler on a small noctua (u12s)

I thought water cooling was the best cooling you could do? Like I was saying it has stable 72-75c in games but with short spikes up to 83-85. You are saying that this is normal even on water?

10 hours ago, 191x7 said:

No, it's the same, but I'd recommend reinstalling it (just rerun the install, no need to uninstall anything).

 

Set the PBO curve offset to negative and start with 15. Most 5800X3D run fine with negative 15, 20, 25, and many even 30.

That greatly lowers the temperatures and allows the CPU to boost for a long time.

Question, if it's the same why would I need to reinstall it? Are there differences it will find between 3800x and 5800x3d?

So when I had my 3800x cpu I had already downloaded the most up to date chipset driver. I have upgraded to a 5800x3d and I saw the driver version is the same. Should I still download the chipset driver again and update it?

2 hours ago, Shimejii said:

Yeah thats 100% normal temps.

 

i use pbo2 Tuner, but if your bios has it baked in use that. Worth it for the rock solid stable 4450 clock

When you use PBO2 tuner, does it save settings and apply it straight to BIOS? Because I think I can access this information from within and do a offset curve on like -25 or 30 plus the other settings 

7 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Your 3700X isn’t in the same league..

 

And yes, don’t touch the voltage, just use the curve. That’s what people talk about when they say undervolt.

 

You can’t overclock this chip other than through bclk overclocks..

Do you happen to have a guide online I could follow? But to you it doesn't seem like these temperatures are bad?

3 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Don't use voltage offsets at all. Don't adjust limits such as PPT, TDC, or EDC. All you need to use is the curve optimizer.  Use all core -30 and that should shave 10c off. If for some reason your CPU is not that good, try -25. But really, -30 should be no problem.

 

For what its worth, I can run my X3D semi passively in my system on 3 different coolers, none with a fan attached.

I just find it weird that most people want to undervolt the cpu and not really mess with the frequency. But you're saying don't mess with the voltage at all?

i just find it weird how I'm getting low to mid 70's in game with minor spikes to as high as 84c. I don't remember my ryzen 3700x getting this hot at all. So I just wanna try anything to get the temp down lower.

I guess this weekend I might have to drain the loop and check to see the thermal paste. Maybe I didn't use enough even though I used a spreader and every inch was covered.

Does the q code reader say the code is?

I'm using an asus strix x570 gaming e board. I should be able to adjust voltages and stuff in there right? Think .10v is too much to take off because I saw some people doing .20 I think?

How do I use pbo tuner?

Should I undervolt in bios or use ryzen master?

10 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

Your temps are normal. In Cyberpunk my 5800x3d Gets to about 83c, with doing PBO2 Tuner it gets down to about 75c. Some games will make it a bit more toasty. 

 

For instance Minecraft can make your CPU go to 85-90c on a solo world with a large enough view distance, and if its quite a CPU intensive game it will be quite toasty.

 

3800x should have been around 70-80c as well. 

 

What radiators and fan speeds do you have the the CPU portion of your loop?

 

Highly reccomend pbo2 Tuner, do -25 all cores, and since your on water you could probably do a bit on the TDC and EDC, i use 120 PPT, 80 TDC and 110 EDC on a NH-D15, you can try that and see how it goes for you.

I have it all at pwm setup but it's only a push config. 1 360 rad and 1 240

I was seeing a lot of reviews that this chip was hot. I'm still getting full boost frequency and it hasn't failed yet. If I need to maybe I didn't apply enough thermal paste? But I used a spreader and made sure every spot was covered before putting block on. Did the star pattern when tightening it as well so it would have even tension. Right now in game I'm getting low 70s, 71-74. But it will occasionally spike to the low 80s

I am also using an open air case, cougar conquer case.

Well I have 2 rads, 360 and 240. I have the loop going pump to gpu to cpu and then to the rads. Before I filled it up I made sure the block had proper contact but I guess I might have to drain it again and make sure?

like I said it spikes there for like a quick second and quickly goes back down to the low 70s.

So I have just upgraded from a 3800x to a 5800x3d. I notice my temps shoot up to around 82-83 sometimes in games. My cooling system is a custom loop and I am just thinking that this does not seem right. I don't remember my 3800x getting to be that hot. Have not tried undervolting yet but am thinking about it. Any comments or advice to try to limit temperatures? Idle I am around 38-42 I believe.

I have also just used DDU as a failsafe right now, will update if things are going well. I want to go back to my DP for my 165hz but I might have to settle for 144hz right now

Hello, I have a 2080 ti and I have just recently started dealing with black screen issues. The screen goes black, does not respond to any display port signal and i have to end up doing a hard reset on my computer. I have not downloaded anything besides some addons for WoW and of course the most recent driver update. I seem to be having an issue with DP on this card as well now but it does not seem to be the case when I use HDMI. Not too sure what is going on because this only started happening in the past week, maybe two?