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Hi, 

So as of late I've been noticing an occasional screen jitter within windows also an audio static hiss (like White noise ESC) , I've also been experiencing black out issues with my Oculus rift s which could be related to the issue as I was getting them on repeat on Saturday. (Thinking it was an issue with the headset, I've got a replacement coming in today) but now noticing this I've started to think it could be something wrong with the system.

This has lead me ro think it could be a grounding issue or something could be going wrong with my mobo, GPU or psu, but before I go around ordering new components (which I'd rather not do as the system is only a year old) I wanna try and isolate the issue and attempt to diagnose and solve it before I start to do so. 

Any help is greatly appreciated as I really need this system for work/studying

My current specs are the following:

CPU: Ryzen 2700X

GPU: MSI gaming z RTX2060 

PSU: EVGA SUPERNOVA g3 650W

MOBO: MSI Pro carbon AC (non max)

Storage 1: Samsung 970 Evo plus 500gb

Storage 2: WD blue 1tb

Storage 3: Seagate Barracuda 500gb 

On 5/30/2020 at 2:36 PM, marmour said:

OnePlus 8 or 8 Pro really seems like your best option here, although they don't have headphones jacks. Alternatively, the pixel 4a should have a headphone jack when it's released, but it's more of a budget phone and will probably be only about £400. There's also the new Sony Xperia 1 ii which has a headphone jack, but its a bit pricey, and Sony's phones haven't exactly been the best recently, although this one is rumoured to be better.

 

All these suggestions should give a near stock android experience and the OnePlus and pixel should have great long term software support.

Imo with your budget, the OnePlus makes most sense if you can live that dongle life.

See I wouldn't mind the dongle life but having to choose between charging and listening to stuff when traveling I can see being a major pain. The only way I can see getting around this would be either a separate pair of headphones that I use while the phone is charging or a bluetooth amp/dac. 

The Xperia 1 ii is looking really good and is pretty much perfect but it's as much as I spent on my desktop which is not ideal. 

On 5/31/2020 at 5:51 PM, Daniel Z. said:

iPhone 11. It's amazing. Fastest SoC in a phone, top tier camera, great battery life, and great software. My Xr gets around 9 hours of SoT

My brother has one and its a great phone but I've never been an apple guy, I love androids customisation too much and not having to conform to apples styling standards and the only way to achieve this would be jailbreaking the phone. Besides I'm already invested in the Google eco system. 

Hi, so I'm gonna get a new phone soon and because of removal of the headphone jack from most phones I'm considering a Bluetooth amp as it it would allow me to charge and listen to music while on the go. Does anyone have any recommendations? As I've been looking at the FiiO btr3 but it would be nice to know what else is out there. 

Hey, so currently I'm looking for an upgrade to my now ageing OnePlus 3, I've been out of the smartphone game for while so the new stuff is kinda alien to me and I'm not sure of what I should pick up. 

Preferably I want to stick to android and I have a budget of around £1000ish, I don't tend to upgrade every year so I don't mind spending a little more for longevity. I also honestly do not  really care about camera specs but I want something that is fairly quick, Preferably a headphone jack would be nice, (I know it's a rare occurrence these days but using dongles seems like a nightmare when trying to use semi decent wired headphones as that is another thing I to remember to take with me,unless I get a Bluetooth amp which still isn't ideal as again it's just another thing I have to remember to charge), In addition decent battery life would be a plus as well as a near stock android experience like OxygenOS.  

But in terms of features that's honestly really it, any help is greatly appreciated. 

25 minutes ago, Rigg said:

I think you should stick to the cheapest 2060's and/or 2070's. Not worth the extra money for what you get. There are entry level cards with good coolers they'll just be slightly louder. In some cases the cheap cards will overclock better. 

 

Also paying more for a 2700/2700x isn't worth it over the 1700/1700x. Especially since you already have a good cooler. This assumes you are comfortable doing a really easy over clock. Put that money toward a B-Die kit or better PSU. 

 

Which Noctua cooler do you have?

It's an older style, but Noctua offer a free bracket, if you show proof of purchase of a mobo and the cooler. It's the  NH-C12P SE14

9 minutes ago, Hans Power said:

I really like it - it's rather quiet but not completely silent, uses ball bearings for the fans (much higher durability than the shitty sleeve bearings many other manufacturers use in their low end GPUs) and has a 114% power limit which might help a bit with overclocking. The EVGA Black is also good - it uses Fluid Dynamic Bearings for its fans but only goes up to a 107% power limit. Keep in mind, that both cards only come with a non "A" chip which is reserved for high end 2070s which will overclock even higher. My card still manages to pull off a core clock speed of ~2050Mhz (+200 offset) which is quite good and a memory overclock +600Mhz without even trying which is excellent. Mine uses Samsung memory, btw (which is always preferable), and for a while all 2070s did due to the micron production crisis. But that might have been resolved by now so that you might start seeing micron memory again.

With the exception of the price, my only other concern about the 2070 is the artifacting that was happening with the early models, any idea what the chances are of myself getting one with this issue and is this prevalent in the current releases?

6 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Ryzen still has an ever so slightly marginal bottleneck with low res/high frame rate gaming, but that's it. So, no looking at becoming a professional loser CS:GO player.

What if you're the kind of person that wants all the performance? All the benchies?

 

Then build! I don't expect Ryzen 3XXX chips have huge gains over 2XXX chips (other than maybe x2 core counts).

I can, in the end, buy next years chips anyway, if they release new cpus. Since AM4 is guaranteed support until 2020, just need to hope that the motherboard gets a BIOS update for the 4000 series. 

1 minute ago, Hans Power said:

Keep in mind that this 5FPS difference in some games are right on the edge of reaching 60 with Ultra settings. Monster Hunter World for example which is a massive resource hog. But it's certainly a minority of games. When I bought my GPU I wanted the extra edge to keep me comfy in those situations.

How is the 2070 armour? I was looking at that and the evga black (Heard really good things about the warranty). 

3 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Yes. For 99.9% of gaming, it's an excellent combo.

 

Though, new hardware is going to be dropping in a few months.

But that's unpossible!! The internatz tell me Ryzen is the suck for gaming!!

The thing is I kinda, want/need a new system right now. My current 8320 and 7870 is really struggling with the games I want to play. So as much as I want to wait, I also really want to just buy the parts and build asap, so I can play mordhau with friends. 

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Yes. For 99.9% of gaming, it's an excellent combo.

 

Though, new hardware is going to be dropping in a few months.

But that's unpossible!! The internatz tell me Ryzen is the suck for gaming!!

Pretty sure I've seen people with the 2700x and a 2080ti with little to no bottleneck. 

1 minute ago, Hans Power said:

Yeah, that'll most likely do it. Btw, I want to point at another thing I usually look out for when buying a new GPU and that is the Steam Hardware survey. The reason is that Gaming developers usually optimize for the card which is used by most people. With the 9xx generation it was the 970 for example, so devs optimized their games to reach 1080p60 high/ultra with that card. For this generation it seems to be the 2060, so you should be good. Here's the source:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Latest-Steam-hardware-survey-suggests-GeForce-RTX-20-series-sales-are-on-the-up.416022.0.html

Yup, hence why I was looking at 2060, Hardware unboxed did a comparison video and it was a 2-5 frame difference even at 1440p.

Just now, Hans Power said:

Yeah, £100 sounds like an alright proposition. For me it came down to a 90€ difference for a somewhat decent card and even less for a high-end 2060. It's all about what the prices are for you, atm. Also, I need my Skyrim 4-8k texture mods in my life so, you know - you gotta do, what you gotta do...

I just need something for Cyberpunk 2077 and the Master Cheif collection. I kinda need those games in my life right now. XD

Just now, Hans Power said:

Yes, that is a good idea but only if you can find a good 2060 for 150bucks less than a good 2070 and my problem was that there were no good 2060s which were sold at MSRP but there were at least two models of the 2070 at MSRP which were actually quite good - the MSI Armor which I have and the EVGA Black. Both models are very decent while the lower end 2060s aren't nearly as high quality in terms of cooler and fan solution. The price/performance advantage kinda shrinks when you go for the higher end models of the 2060.

It's like £100 more for a base 2070 than say an MSI Gaming Z, and since you can clock the 2060 to meet the 2070 performance it's really tempting to do so. 

2 hours ago, Rigg said:

Hmmmm. You're in a tough spot. It sounds like you need an upgrade ASAP. The 1700 is the best value buy of that bunch IMO but will probably get even cheaper in as little as a month from now. Would you be okay to wait at least until then if not until July? 

 

I think your best bet is to buy really good parts all around save for the GPU and CPU right now with the goal of upgrading CPU/GPU/monitor in 6 months to a year. I'd suggest the cheapest used RX 570/480/580 8gb card you can find paired with the cheapest used ryzen CPU you can find now. My local classifieds are littered with stuff like that. That should cover anything at 1080p60 for now. Then do an incremental upgrade of the GPU, CPU, and Monitor later this year when Ryzen 3000 is widely available and possibly slightly discounted during the holiday sales. At that point you could reassess your resolution and frame rate goals with the GPU's that are available at that point. Navi is around the corner as well. 

Yeah,  it's a little annoying when you have the cash to spend but you have to wait for the upgrade to happen. Which is why it's so tempting to pull the trigger right now and buy both the parts. In terms of saving up, the thing is I have more than enough but I don't particularly want to spend more than £1150, as I have other things I want to buy. 

Yeah,  it's a little annoying when you have the cash to spend but you have to wait for the upgrade to happen. Which is why it's so tempting to pull the trigger right now and buy both the parts. In terms of saving up, the thing is I have more than enough but I don't particularly want to spend more than £1150, as I have other things I want to buy. 

1 minute ago, Rigg said:

Current GPU?

radeon 7870

1 minute ago, Rigg said:

What are the prices of the 1600, 2600, 1700, and 2700 in the UK? 

2700: £198.99

2600: £135.97

1700:£129.59

1600:£119.55

4 minutes ago, Rigg said:

Will you be doing incremental upgrades? Or do want the entire system as built on day one to last 7 years?

Incremental upgrades, really just changing the GPU and adding storage etc. Reusing my current Enthoo pro and Noctua Cooler as I see no reason to change them, at this moment in time. 

15 minutes ago, Rigg said:

You'll definitely want to upgrade that monitor. This should not be a maybe or you are wasting a ton of money. You should decide what resolution and frame rate goal you have in mind before ever contemplating a system build. The resolution and framerate in relation to the type of games you play severely impacts hardware decisions if your goal is to get maximum value from your system. 

I really more care more about the longevity of the system. I've had this current system for 7 years and it really is due for an upgrade, (FX series has not aged well)  the monitor will come later. It will most likely be 1440p, but 1080p till then. It's just a little annoying that I can't really play the new yakuza or mordhau till then. 

Just now, Rigg said:

What resolution are you planning on using? 

Currently 1080p 60hrz, but might be going to 1440p or 1080 144hrz. 

While I knew this, it's more of waiting to see if the boards have a BIOS updates shipped out with them. As I don't have any current Ryzen CPU's to hand, to perform the update myself. 

4 minutes ago, Rigg said:

Who cares about the boards. I doubt they'll make much difference in real world performance. Unless there is some significant must have feature they offer (that 400 series boards with Bios updates don't) the older boards will work fine. I don't really see any reason to think they'll be any more expensive than what the 400 boards cost now regardless. 

6 minutes ago, Wufflez said:

If it's just for games, then intel would be better. But the 2700x will have a better upgrade path. Either way is fine. If you can hold out for ryzen 3000, coming in a few months, I'd do that.

Yup, the problem is a 9700k is around £150ish more, so I could buy that or a 2070. I would wait out but the 3000 series will have the more expensive x570 at launch and the B550 boards in September. 

4 minutes ago, Wufflez said:

Short answer: yes
Long answer depends on what you're using your computer for?

Mainly games, I want something that will last a while that allows for headroom so I don't have to make a  complete platform change when I want to upgrade the GPU in the future. Primary pushing 1080p with the possibility of pushing 1440p down the line. 

Hey, So i'm currently looking at a 2700x and combine that with a RTX 2060, as I personally don't see the point of 2070 when it's £150 more for a very little extra performance to an oc 2060. Would this be a good idea? This is the build I have priced up.