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The AMD FX line was good for me.

Is Linus really serious when he says he is going to return it within the two weeks?
 
That's too bad but I understand why. The machine wouldn't benefit his operation very much compared to what they already have.
 
Also, please excuse my EG doppelganger.

Bigger screen, headphones jack, SD card, Android environment.

Not sure if LTT knows this, or realizes this, but there are a lot of gamers, IT professionals, and  others I know who watch your videos, who prefer to wear larger size clothing than their regular size.. Will we EVER see the option for XXXXL hoodies or shirts? Pretty much the only thing that is keeping me from buying anything from the merch store is sizing. Please let us know.

I've been wanting an alternative to iOS and Android for a long time. And if this project is a success, we'll finally have an option. And it's an option that gives you full control, as Linux tends to do!
 
Read more here:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/09/purisms-librem-5-phone-starts-shipping-a-fully-open-gnulinux-phone/
 
"The internal construction of the Librem 5 is absolutely wild. While smartphones today are mostly a single mainboard with every component integrated into it, the Librem 5 actually has a pair of M.2 slots that house full-size, off-the-shelf LTE and Wi-Fi cards for connectivity, just like what you would find in an old laptop. The M.2 sockets look massive on top of the tiny phone motherboard, but you could probably replace or upgrade the cards if you wanted."
 

Only convenient when it works. Seems like MS is going a piss poor job on updates and breaking shit every 10 seconds. I gave up on Windows and moved to Linux. Sure, I cant play most of my Steam games, but I rather have a system that works then one that is flat out broken most of the time. 

OP you need to type up your build and head over to the Troubleshooting forum, you're clearly having performance issues that others are not despite similar hardware.

This thread has gone on long enough.

This thread is one hell of a meme. The OP needs to calm down before he gets an aneurysm and blames AMD for it too.

OP you need to type up your build and head over to the Troubleshooting forum, you're clearly having performance issues that others are not despite similar hardware.

OP you need to type up your build and head over to the Troubleshooting forum, you're clearly having performance issues that others are not despite similar hardware.

OP you need to type up your build and head over to the Troubleshooting forum, you're clearly having performance issues that others are not despite similar hardware.

Laptops have become too "thin and light" at the expense of everything else

well... that was an interesting little thread.
1. *Proceeds to use foul language, insult anyone in sight, and generally not be calm at all...
2. See 1
3. By a small margin in gaming, which is not the ONLY reason to buy a computer believe it or not. Your definition of "Beat" is extremely subjective. If intel is an 11 and AMD is a 8 or 9, but Intel costs 2x as much and loses in productivity numbers, that's not a "beat" in my books. I care about more than raw benchmarking numbers in top of the line games. And no I'm not claiming those numbers to be real from anywhere, just an example.
4. No they aren't SUPPOSED to do anything. How they handle their news and reviews is a choice they get to make. It's not your business and you don't get to accuse them of not running it the way you would run it because it's theirs not yours. I don't believe they are lacking in honest reviews and criticizing, but for comparison's sake, Fox news has put out reports supporting blatant lies and nonsense. I don't like them but i'm not boycotting them, because it's their choice. And it's my choice as a consumer to choose whether I listen to them or not, the same as it's your choice if you don't think linus is being honest or representative to not watch them. Now some will come back with the "if you don't think it's right change it instead of just not paying attention" argument. And that's fine. You have every right to voice your opinion on the forum, but cussing and insulting everyone and putting words in people's mouths is not the way to calmly voice your opinion. 
5. Again no it's not their responsibility, it's their choice. If they choose to made a video saying rasp pi is the best computer to play GTA on, that's their choice. It's their business.
6. Because there are very few who would stay awake in a motherboard video. There's a reason LTT has more subs and viewers than tech jesus. Sometimes deep diving into a less glamorous topic for 30 minutes makes for a less glamorous video... whodathunk
7. see 6
8. I think they do, and so do many other people on the forum and youtube. I'm not saying they are without fault or slip ups at times, but they always try and give fair opinions as far as I've ever seen. (Except for the vaccuum whose name shall remain unspoken XD)
 
 
You can keep believing that, but it doesn't make you right. Nothing of the sort was ever said, and you're conflating a single chip that exists in the top tier as being the lowest and/or only
 
performance that can exist in the top tier. By that same logic I could say that you're insinuating the 7700K should be able to beat the 9900K. They are both top tier, but you didn't say 7700k was the BEST, nor did @DrMacintosh say that the 1800x can beat a 7700k
1. Here's 3 videos I found in a quick search with an 1800x in 2 vids and a 1700 x in the other with gtx 1080 (non ti) or worse running gtav with stable 60 fps or higher
2. Not when AMD was playing a massive catch up game. 
3. I am an AMD fan, but I have a 4th gen i5, that doesn't mean I'm automatically an intel fanboy. That's not how preferences vs life works.
4. Presumably = I have assumed everything I am stating but I am stating it as a fact anyways, because that makes for a "fair and honest review" of the subject we are discussing.
I didn't realize being logical and having a distaste for unsupported accusations and opinion while blasting everyone who responds to a question you posed is a political side. If that's the case, then I'm on whatever that imaginary side of the spectrum is too.
This isn't about REVIEWS, but about coverage of a product (REVIEWS). Point me to a REVIEWER who ....
Mmhmm...
So all in all, you posed a question, phrased with "Why"
Then when people answered the question you posted on a forum made by the group you're trying to go off on without completely agreeing with you, you are surprised, offended and start arguing at every turn and insulting people for answering your question. You put words in their mouths they didn't say, you conflate tiers and compare things with a certainty that can only be matched by simple empirical evidence found in ten seconds of googling, and you call someone's distaste of your attitude a political side somehow. 
And all this is prefaced with I'm being perfectly calm and I don't wanna get banned please let me know if I'm being rude or mean so I can fix it first. 
Well I'm letting you know. your attitude is deplorable, your argument rests on opinion that most of it is based on your assumptions or statements proven to not be true, and if you need proof I'm not just an LTT fanboy unfairly judging you, just look at the community warning on your post.
I rest my case and I'll be leaving now to sleep and enjoy time away from stuff like this.

No, it's top tier. The 1700-1800X were competitive with the 6700K and 7700K. They traded *some* gaming and AVX performance for multicore performance, so Ryzen just wasn't offering a performance king.

@BlueGoliath I went back through your post and watched all the sources you supplied.
 
First of all, if you listen carefully, you can hear the context at this timestamp: 
 
I don't know about you, and you're probably going to argue this for some reason, but it's pretty clear to me that the "top-tier performance" is relative to AMD's lineup and the year of 2017 until the release of the 2700x, and same until the release of the 3700x. Not only that, but consider the title literally has "AMD Ryzen 2nd vs 3rd Gen" in it, it's pretty clear that the scope of this video is AMD and their "upgrade cycle" [5:42 in the same video].
 
Again, bouncing off my last point, "top-tier" was relative to each year/generation for the Ryzen lineup only. Also, my statement there about the 3000 series being powerful and a BIOS update coming was to bring up a couple things:
 
- AMD has improved from 1st, to 2nd, and 3rd gen Ryzen drastically, with the 2nd to 3rd gen being the biggest jump
- AMD is now very competitive with Intel ever since they started throwing Threadripper in their faces
- Sure, maybe still not "top-tier", but when you consider the closest thing Intel currently has to a $500 3900x is a $1,000 9920X that has:
   - worse performance
   - runs on a significantly larger, hotter, and more power hungry lithography
   - requires a motherboard that's significantly more expensive, and doesn't benefit from PCIe 4.0
it's pretty fricken' top-tier at the point, especially for people looking for workstations. 
- Not to mention, AMD is already on 7nm. Intel is barely ready to ship their 10nm process.
 
Edit, since I accdidentally tabbed and hit enter:
 
Lastly, you speak of their CS:GO test not being strong enough. While I don't have a source of their tests, neither do you. Who's to say they aren't smart enough to at least run a couple rounds with bots (more intensive, less realistic) or on a causal game (less intensive, more realistic)? Would they really just sit on a map alone and walk around without anyone else or throwing smokes, etc.? I doubt it.
 
Again, I personally don't see why you're making such a big deal out of this. I think you fail to realize context and can't seem to take into account more than just a few snippets of text and abstracted sources. I haven't found anything relative to this conversation where LTT has blatantly lied or was hypocritical. 

My next CPU will be an R5 3600 or R7 3700 simply because AMD is the best value by far at pretty much all price points. It'll be my first desktop AMD CPU since the venerable 386 DX-40 (not really sure if the K6-2 500 counts, since I got that from my aunt with its original mobo from 1999 in 2015).
 
Should probably replace the 386 with a 486, since the FPU socket doubles as a socket for them.

Here is the deal with Ryzen. It changed the CPU game again. The first and second gen didn't exactly beat intel in performance for games, but they DID pull off some big wins on the productivity side. Then they came at intel with pricing that was almost impossible for them to beat. So you got more cores for LESS money. This after coming off the bulldozer refreshes that had trash IPC.
 
Now we have the 3rd gen Ryzen which had massive IPC improvements. Are on a 7nm node that is much more efficient. Are giving you WAY more for the price of an intel chip and are within 5-7% on average when it comes to fps. That while killing them in productivity.
 
So yes I would say they have top tier performance. 

Honestly, I'm surprised so many people are still so annoyed by the titles and thumbnails. They've said multiple times that they're just playing into the algorithm. They can be all high and mighty and not do it, but then they likely slice their revenue clean in half, or lower.
 
If you look at the Floatplane titles, they are generally more to the point like you're saying. They still use the same thumbnails, but why would they generate another thumbnail?

First of all, where did they say "top-tier performance"? You didn't provide a source for that.
 
Secondly, the 1000 and 2000 series were not as powerful as this recent 3000 series. And as news just released today, the 3000 series should be seeing a little bit of a boost, especially for overclockers, with a new BIOS update.
 
Lastly, why would you say that their CS:GO tests aren't indicative of real-world performance, and that it shouldn't be used as a benchmark? If anything, it's the closest to real-world performance. The default frame cap of CS:GO is 300 fps, and many players may not even know how to open the console to change that. If they spent even one full match in game, they will have a good average to work with. 
 
To me, it seems like you're just whining, but because you wrote a really long post with some quotes, it is getting attention. I couldn't follow your argument at all, and it felt like a really silly rant. If anything, we all know we should take benchmarks with a few grains of salt. 5-15 FPS in CS:GO won't matter because there are so many factors at play such as ambient temp, how old the hardware is, what hardware, silicon lottery, etc. 
 
I don't even understand the point of your post. This "flip-flopping" I think has to do with Ryzen's first and second gen really drastically improving AMD's look to the community. This caused AMD to be shown off as a powerhouse, but still not as great as Intel. Then the 3000 series neck and neck, nearly blowing Intel out of the water? Of course it's gonna sound flip flopped if you don't pay attention for more than 10 seconds.
 
Idk, now I'm ranting. I totally don't get the point of your post as it's literally just you whining about nothing yet it's getting a lot of attention.

Pretty sure most people could use the context clues to see that I wasn't talking about a first gen i3 and was instead referring to current modern offerings in both product lines. Good luck with running GTA V bud, bye.

No. they actually aren't. They both offer very good general performance. My point still stands.
 
Misinformed statements, like this, are bad.

One of the hardest lessons in life is learning that we might be wrong when we are convinced we are right on a passionate topic.
 
Doing that in public is even harder.  Don't stress the small stuff, let the thread go and ponder the better things in life.

"People that don't agree with me are ignorant and trolls."
 
Whats the answer you're looking for? We'll agree with you just to have this thread finalised and fade away into obscurity. 
 
Seriously, I don't know what it is you're trying to get out of this thread anymore. 

Ryzen CPU's = Good Performance
Intel CPU's = Good Performance
Shouldn't everyone just be happy regardless since competition is good for prices and innovation?