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    Dubba got a reaction from TechyBen in CPU usage (laptop) is always 90+%   
    When you click the processor precentage, what programs come on top of the list? You can check the details tab and sort by CPU precentage there too
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    Dubba got a reaction from historicalpoultry in 3700x - PBO - what should I do?   
    Yeah I'd also just enable PBO, check what kinds of temperatures you are getting, then limit the power limits for PBO until you are happy with the temperature. At least on my board the PBO basically removes the limits and pushes everything it can offer without melting
     
    For now I disabled PBO from mine because the temperature, voltages and current seemed crazy. I plan on enabling it once I have time to update my BIOS from Zen2 launch BIOS for my board, but before that I have some critical projects I need to finish first, can't risk a failed BIOS update right now.
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    Dubba reacted to boey in ASUS X470 Pro Compatible with Ryzen 3700X?   
    Some X470s were manufactured before the release of Ryzen 3000 and do not have an updated bios. Some were manufactured after and have an updated BIOS. If you're buying in person, you can check if the box says Ryzen 3000 compatible or something. Some MSI motherboards have a function where you can install a new BIOS onto the motherboard without a CPU in it(it's called BIOS Flashback), so that's always an option
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    Dubba got a reaction from Boyohan in ASUS X470 Pro Compatible with Ryzen 3700X?   
    It's compatible with Ryzen 3000 series if you have the updated BIOS You can try asking for the shop to update the BIOS for you, they usually ask for a nominal fee, depending on where you buy from. It'd save you the hassle and troubleshooting if something doesn't work right out of the box.
     
    Another option is to loan an older Ryzen/Athlon CPU, from a friend or from AMD, but that would take more time of course.
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    Dubba got a reaction from boey in ASUS X470 Pro Compatible with Ryzen 3700X?   
    It's compatible with Ryzen 3000 series if you have the updated BIOS You can try asking for the shop to update the BIOS for you, they usually ask for a nominal fee, depending on where you buy from. It'd save you the hassle and troubleshooting if something doesn't work right out of the box.
     
    Another option is to loan an older Ryzen/Athlon CPU, from a friend or from AMD, but that would take more time of course.
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    Dubba got a reaction from Jannov in Z390 Board with just one 8-pin PSU connector?   
    As far as I know, the extra CPU power connector is there for extreme overclocking purposes and you don't need to use it. Some of the new x570 boards for AMD even have two 8-pin connectors but only one is needed for everything to work.
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    Dubba got a reaction from RekiChan in 90 ℃ even with nh-d15. Normal?   
    If the temperature rises rapidly, say in one second, then I'd say it's not the ambient temperature.
     
    My 3700X raised to 84C in synthetic tests with ambient temperature of 32C. Now when it's 21C, it raises to the same temp, and also decreases rapidly, adding to the thought that the NH-D15 doesn't have any problems dissipating the heat it receives. Ambient temperature would start affecting more over sustained loads when the heatsink itself starts getting warmer and warmer.
    My voltages were pretty high like that too, all-core synthetic load around 1.39-1.41V but you do have more cores. If the cooler is attached properly, and you have at least one fan in it, I'd start suspecting just voltages being too high. Is your BIOS up to date?
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    Dubba got a reaction from RekiChan in 90 ℃ even with nh-d15. Normal?   
    Well that can always happen
    Forgot to mention, the thermal paste is not pre-applied to the cooler, but it's provided in a syringe which I really approve of.
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    Dubba got a reaction from RekiChan in 90 ℃ even with nh-d15. Normal?   
    NH-D15 comes with Noctuas own thermal paste.
    Did you use the right spacers with the included mounting kit? If I remember correctly, the grey ones are for AM4 socket.
     
    And another thing, what kind of core voltages is your mobo pushing to cpu?
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    Dubba got a reaction from Hahny in Swapping to red team, need help   
    As others said, reinstall is always the best way even when Win10 is indeed pretty smart. But prepare to reactivate your Windows, activation is usually tied to your motherboard but depending on your license you may be able to use it on a new system as well.
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    Dubba got a reaction from ch3w2oy in Ryzen 7 3800x Temp/voltage issues   
    I have the same motherboard and it is indeed providing a bit more voltage than we'd like. New BIOS version hopefully arrives this month with a fix for that.
    Currently the BIOS in this motherboard is limiting memory clocking too. I was able to clock my RAM to 3200MHz and above that the FCLK stopped following, I wasn't able to clock FCLK up even manually without getting a no-post situation. So that's a limit atm. Waiting for the new BIOS for that too.
    However, that is kinda what to expect right now. What are you using to monitor temps? I guess you already know that some programs can stop the CPU from going idle.
    Chipset driver update helped me to get more regular idling at 0.7-0.9V with Ryzen Balanced power plan.
     
    The clocks and voltages on Zen2 change extremely fast and no monitoring software at this time will show you a graph that fast. When you move a mouse or open a program, or just run anything single-threaded, you will observe high voltages. But that voltage of 1.4-1.5V is only applied to a single core and that single core will be showing power usages up to 40W (on 3700X at least), and because that kind of power is going to a single tiny core in the corner of the CPU, we see these hefty spikes in temperatures. Changing a cooler won't help dissipate this kinds of bursts of heat output.
     
    When running multi-threaded, the cores will not be getting all that available power, instead the power budget is spread accross all the cores and we'll see a bit less volts and lower clocks. But temps will be higher just because there are more cores in that tiny corner using the power available, which in total is more than a single core can use.
     
    That being said, 95C is a lot more than what's expected. I get around 84C max in synthetic stuff, a lot less in games. Is your cooler making proper contact and does it fit over the corner where the CPU cores are?
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    Dubba reacted to 191x7 in Does ram affect GPU load   
    Wait, you're using the system with a 1366x768 screen and you're wondering about the bottleneck? That 4-core Ryzen would bottleneck the 1160Ti even on 1080p.
    Upgrade the monitor and the CPU.
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    Dubba got a reaction from Origami Cactus in Ryzen 7 3800x Temp/voltage issues   
    I have the same motherboard and it is indeed providing a bit more voltage than we'd like. New BIOS version hopefully arrives this month with a fix for that.
    Currently the BIOS in this motherboard is limiting memory clocking too. I was able to clock my RAM to 3200MHz and above that the FCLK stopped following, I wasn't able to clock FCLK up even manually without getting a no-post situation. So that's a limit atm. Waiting for the new BIOS for that too.
    However, that is kinda what to expect right now. What are you using to monitor temps? I guess you already know that some programs can stop the CPU from going idle.
    Chipset driver update helped me to get more regular idling at 0.7-0.9V with Ryzen Balanced power plan.
     
    The clocks and voltages on Zen2 change extremely fast and no monitoring software at this time will show you a graph that fast. When you move a mouse or open a program, or just run anything single-threaded, you will observe high voltages. But that voltage of 1.4-1.5V is only applied to a single core and that single core will be showing power usages up to 40W (on 3700X at least), and because that kind of power is going to a single tiny core in the corner of the CPU, we see these hefty spikes in temperatures. Changing a cooler won't help dissipate this kinds of bursts of heat output.
     
    When running multi-threaded, the cores will not be getting all that available power, instead the power budget is spread accross all the cores and we'll see a bit less volts and lower clocks. But temps will be higher just because there are more cores in that tiny corner using the power available, which in total is more than a single core can use.
     
    That being said, 95C is a lot more than what's expected. I get around 84C max in synthetic stuff, a lot less in games. Is your cooler making proper contact and does it fit over the corner where the CPU cores are?
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    Dubba got a reaction from driftz240 in Scared about esd   
    Don't ya mean, wireless ESD wristwrap?
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    Dubba got a reaction from CrazieChipmunk in high voltage still: ryzen 3600   
    There's a few things connected. First, the spikes we see in voltages at idle are mostly for short single core boosts and apparently Ryzen also reports temperatures from the hottest core. Updating to the latest chipset driver helped idle behaviour somewhat on my X470 platform but I still see some spikes to +1.4V if I have anything running, even when not using, like a web browser.
     
    Because the manufacturing process is so small, and the transistors are so tightly packed together we have these really intense spikes in heat output. At least our older motherboards might not understand this and just panic with the fan curves. I was able to stabilize my CPU fan craziness by just adding a few seconds of delay to the reaction time in BIOS. If your CPU temp spikes to a max of 84°C like mine does on all-core synthetic tests, your chip is totally fine. While gaming it stays a lot cooler.
     
    Btw, I'm happy you got your board to finally boot : )
     
     
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    Dubba got a reaction from diphendum in Is there any reason to get the X570 over the X470?   
    Well, both X470 and X570 boards suffer from buggy BIOSes at the moment, no one is safe! Though some are more stable than others.
    X570 chipset is a repurposed Ryzen I/O chip, from what I've read, and it doesn't have advanced power saving methods so it'll use more power even when nothing uses it. It doesn't downlock or idle in that sense. Also the fan is a big yikes. der8auer made a good video testing the power consumption and heat output a little while ago and he noted that it could be possible to cool x570 chipset by just slapping a moderate heatsink on it. It depends on a manufacturer whether the fan is loud af or inaudible and you could tweak the fan settings in BIOS of course. Just have a good airflow inside your case.
     
    Price is also in favour of x470 and b450 for that matter.
    You will only lose PCI4.0 from chipset by going with X470. I don't recall there being any new USB connections there. And, well, out-of-the-box Ryzen 3000 support.
     
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    Dubba reacted to Shmuel_06 in Will One stick of ram work   
    Thx both of u for helping me out I really appreciate it, btw sorry I meant to say if one stick will work if u have 2 slots not if it will work in a dual memory channel lol
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    Dubba reacted to Mathieu9836 in What is max vcore for ryzen 3000 ?   
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    Dubba got a reaction from CrazieChipmunk in Does Ram effect cpu light?   
    On that board it shouldn't matter if you do the BIOS flash with everything installed or not. You could try different ways, and maybe flashing the bios twice in a row or clearing the cmos. Looks like people are pretty mad about tomahawk right now : (
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    Dubba got a reaction from CrazieChipmunk in Does Ram effect cpu light?   
    I think I've seen a few mentions around the net that some MSI boards have had trouble booting up with Zen2 and that they're still working on it. I'd probably try flashing with all the possible BIOS versions that support Zen2 and try with only one RAM stick installed. Or ask if any of the friends have earlier Ryzen CPU's to lend for a bit
     
    Today I finally get to build my new setup (asus x470-f and 3700X with old RAM), so we'll see if I'll be joining the club ?
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    Dubba reacted to AvogadrosDog in X570 Taichi vs. the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra vs. ROG Strix X570 for 3900x   
    Only issue with X570 Taichi is the internal USB-C header - it hits directly where the GPU will be in the PCIe slot closest to the CPU. Other than that, the Taichi is the best board at it's price point. The Aorus Ultra's only real issue is no POST code so if something goes wrong you have to guess based on some obscure LED lights. "ROG Strix" is slightly vague, do you mean the E or the F? the F shouldn't exist, it's not that good of a board compared to others especially at its price point (case in point: the Taichi and even the Aorus Ultra). The E is much better than probably any of the boards you mentioned but it's also way more expensive and if you're looking to spend that much on an Asus board you may as well go to the Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi). It all depends what you don't mind giving up; USB-C internal header (Taichi), POST code (Aorus Ultra) or way more money (ROG Strix E/Crosshair VIII Hero).
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    Dubba reacted to Jarsky in X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming for Zen2 with 32GB RAM   
    In theory, as long as the board has a decent power delivery system which this board has 8+3 Phase with decent cap's. 
    I haven't done much research on performance with higher clocked memory on these new Zen2's. With the Zen/Zen+ they saw big improvements between DDR4 2666Mhz & 3200Mhz because of the Infinity Fabric frequency increase that raised along with the memory clock in a 1:1 ratio. With Zen2 it seperates it onto a seperate chip, and while the IF frequency raises with the DRAM frequency, it cuts at a threshold. My assumption would be that just like Intel, performance gains become negligible past a point. 
    But I dont see any reason why the board shouldnt be able to run higher clocked speeds, it always comes down to the memory controller for support, which is on the CPU die in modern processors. 
     
    P.S i've had this board for over a year now, got it on a launch special for US$120 which was a crazy deal. I'm surprised its not more popular given the feature set. 
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    Dubba got a reaction from GGarcia411 in Help me upgrade my CPU   
    https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AB350M-DS3H-rev-1x/support#support-cpu
     
    Looks like your motherboard supports the new Ryzen CPU's as well, but it's VRM doesn't look very sturdy. I think Ryzen 5 3600 would be a reasonable upgrade, it only requires you to update your BIOS.
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    Dubba reacted to Bailz04 in Ryzen 9 3900x extremely low single core scores   
    Not sure if it will apply to others but I had to delete MSI dragon centre which was interfering with my CPU, bit odd. Windows, core temp and others still say it's running max clock speed but ryzen master tells me what they're actually running at. 
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    Dubba reacted to WoodenMarker in New silent cases? Zero f's given to looks, all about de-noise   
    You can change your member title after hitting 100 posts.
    I can also attest to their durability. 
     
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