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    cardsfanbj reacted to dwkekciej in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    This is a great point. What if the prototype was really great when used as intended, and more reviewers were lined up to review it, thus generating more hype and potential buyers for Billet? LTT robbed Billet of a potential buyer base. LTT dissed the product, then made it impossible to have any competitors review it.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to joaopt in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    this is not rocket science, you don't even need a Lab or 120 employees, a PR department, none of that. Apologise properly, make good with Bilet Labs for real, get their prototype back whatever it costs, change the amount of videos they make, change the QC, don't lie, don't deflect, don't gaslith the viewers. Bum done.
     
    See i did it for free, that's it @LinusTech
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    cardsfanbj reacted to Ooooffff8732 in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    What's REALLY funny is we all know Linus will 100% quadruple down
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    cardsfanbj reacted to atxcyclist in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    Joined 12 minutes ago, screen name is "Retire", signs their one single post here with "in short, get fucked".
     
    To anyone complaining that I and other people doubt how constructive the comments of these new joins are, I present to you the comment above.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to throwawayManMode in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    Linus needs to get them the block back AND pay the fee they were asking for. They need to go above and beyond to try to win back some good will.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to harls in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    Because he wants to run a company that treats his employees well.  If the employees feel the need to unionize that means they feel they are not getting what they deserve and feel they need to bring someone in to negotiate for them.  That means Linus failed at treating his employees as well as they should be. 
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    cardsfanbj reacted to Reavantos in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    nevermind, i can only take so many random threats in a day.
    good day everyone!

     
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    cardsfanbj reacted to The_Q42 in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    I'm a big fan of LTT, and have been watching for years.  I, however, have to side with GN on this one: the long response post from Linus does play victim more than it should, and it neatly dodges some of the direct challenges GN raised.
     
    I've always been impressed with LMG's openness, which seems an ultra-rare thing in the tech industry, but I'm pretty disappointed in LMG's response.  The Billet Labs response/actions are just bad.  The room was not misread, but according to GN and Billet Labs, LMG did not follow the instructions given, and still, even in the apology are lambasting their product over it.  It's a niche, low volume market where reputation is king, and LMG owes it to Billet to make things right.
     
    I fully believe that the intent of LMG and the Labs project is  to do exactly what's on the label: provide unbiased, scientifically confirmed data to the masses so we can make better purchasing decisions and hold manufacturer's accountable when they screw up.  I also work at a company that went from 30 employees to nearly 200 in the span of 1.5 years.  Growing pains are real.  Defining proper process and establishing lines of internal comms is hard.  I can absolutely forgive all of that, and chalk almost everything GN mentioned up to such pains.
     
    What's harder for me to accept is the defensiveness and the tendency to play victim.  Linus's post could've been: "Yeah, we definitely screwed up.  We're carefully reviewing everything GN said, and we're working directly with them to address their concerns.  We're going to make things right the community and learn from these mistakes.  More to come soon."  Then all you'd have to do is follow it up with real action to fix the issues and tell us about it.  
     
    Instead you're complaining about "proper journalistic process"?  Come on.  They don't need to reach out to you unless they want your statement.  In this case, I'm on board with GN's approach because they rightfully fear the influence LMG has in this space (you guys are freaking huge, and wield a metric ton of influence). 
     
    I'm not posting this because I want to jam a pitchfork anywhere unpleasant.  I've been watching LTT from pretty early on, and continue to be a huge fan.  I put a lot of faith in your reviews, and regularly make product decisions based on your recommendations.  Hell, I even own an LTT Screwdriver (lttstore.com), as well as some other merch.
     
    I'm posting because it seems clear that Linus and the real people at LMG (who I truly believe care about their community and their ability to produce good content) should hear feedback from the community.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to ManWithHabits in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    I have 2 issues with this:
     
    Everything that LMG has is built on the trust and support of viewers / subscriber / merch bitches (Yes, I'm all of these)
    If I can't trust someone to tell me the truth, to correct themselves when they make an honest mistake *in a plain and obvious manner* then the trust has gone.
    The moment you open a box and start spouting 'facts' I expect to be able to trust you, because that's the reputation you have built up over the last decade. If you can't be bothered to fact check before pumping out content, I'll go find someone else to trust and support in whatever way I choose to.
     
    If your aim is to be the trusted reviewer of everything you touch, then get your facts right. Read the instructions. Use the item as the manufacturer intended.
     
    If this is the state of LMG now, please explain in simple language why I should continue to watch, subscribe and buy from you.
     
    Second major issue is with the corrections - when they happen. a note on the screen isn't seen if you're background noise while I'm working. A pinned comment is not seen unless a revisit a video (and if you tell me that a product is shit, why would I ever come back to that video?). If the stats are badly affected because you have to pull videos / re-edit them or whatever reason it is you don't reshoot - don't fuck up in the first place.
     
    I'm not perfect, and I don't expect anyone else to be. However, the mistakes in LMG content are getting to a ludicrous level which comes across as incompetance, or your field of reputational fucks being completely barren.
     
    The fun stuff I love and I have no issue with it, but for fuck's sake, do the basics right, or I suspect at least some of us would be forced to go elsewhere for anything we need to research.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to Touch My Hamm in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    The amount of people creating accounts or burner accounts to not folly their mains to say "here is my opinion" to then add nothing of value is crazy. I stick by what I said before. People on both sides appear to be misinterpreting what is meant by each others wording and meanings.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to WillHeard in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    There’s coming back from this for LMG. what does it look like
    real apology from linus. maybe a short break from the company , for his sake Pause the content creation. Give yourself a week to evaluate processes and figure out how to do better. Expensive? yep. Worth rebuilding trust and faith? yep Come up with a robust way to respond to emergencies. You made this way, way worse with your responses on here Linus. This is totally possible. But it won’t be overnight and you need to commit, publicly and internally.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to LinusTechLies in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    And the fanboys defending that is just fucken insane.
     
    AUCTIONING IT OR SELLING IT MAKES NO DAMN DIFFERENCE. WHAT THEY STILL DID WAS STEALING SOMETHING THAT DID NOT BELONG TO THEM.
     
    If I were to take another companies hardware and without permission sell it at auction my ass would be in jail within minutes.
     
    What @LinusTech did and by extension his company was intellectual property theft.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to plume in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    Their product did not suck. Their price for the block is not that far aways from the cost of GPU+CPU waterblock and extra fittings combined. Depending on where you live, it might even cost effective to get the copper block. If any product that is a bit more expensive than what a normal person would get is automatically a product that "sucks" and shouldn't exist, 90% of the hardware you see in LTT videos also shouldn't exist (fancy cases, rgb, high end gpus, 600$ motherboards, gaming chairs, the cars linus buys, etc.). Anything related to water-cooling in the first place is generally considered a giant waste of money if what you value is the price to performance ratio
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    cardsfanbj reacted to Nachmanowicz in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    We're all on LTT forum here, I suppose we're all fans here and don't want the group to get lost. We want it to get better. I like Linus. I do, he doesn't know who I am and he never will but I just like him. Sometimes Im doing chores and I'm listening to him talking about something...
    It wasn't pleasant reading his response. I expect better from him, and hopefully we will get better from him.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to smcoakley in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    There are some valid concerns here that probably should be addressed, but I also see a lot of jumping to conclusions by people who were just waiting for an opportune time to vent all of their other unrelated complaints about LTT, and I don't see that being helpful. Acting aggressive or rude does not enhance your case, but only detracts from it. (Note that I am not saying that GN was either of these things, but some commenters have been.) A solid case can stand on its own merit without either of these things.
     
    First, issuing a response is going to take time. On one hand, people are saying that they are upset by Linus' "hasty" responses and want something that isn't just "by the seat of his pants", but on the other hand, they are demanding some kind of formal apology immediately. Which is it? If you want them to post some kind of video addressing the issue that is well thought out, then that's going to take some time, more than just a few hours. I'd wait a few days, maybe even a week.
     
    Though I will add that "YouTuber apology videos" is probably more of a meme nowadays than something people takes seriously, so is that really what we want? Would that even work, or be satisfactory? Because I'm a little doubtful about that. Linus isn't stupid; I'm sure he's doubtful about it as well, which is why his gut reaction was to say there wouldn't be a public video segment about it.
     
    Another concern is the number of corrections being made on videos in post-production. Sure, that's not ideal, and I also have noticed this increasing. But an increase in the number of errors made during filming is only one possible explanation. Another possible explanation is that LTT videos have always had a similar number of mistakes, and the increase in corrections made during editing is actually an improvement as opposed to no correction at all. Perhaps only now are the mistakes more clear. It is possible that we are recognizing the point on the graph being less than 100%, but maybe we're interpreting the direction of the curve incorrectly?
     
    The Billet Labs thing is a separate concern of its own that I feel doesn't really tie into the rest of the criticisms, and mixing the two is just muddying things up. From the outside it does appear like a pretty bad blunder, but I don't know that it was malicious. Never assume malice when incompetence is a sufficient explanation. And this policy can probably be applied to most of the accusations by GN; not only is it more charitable to do so, its also more likely to get at the truth, because in my experience more often than not, incompetence was the actual cause and not malice.
     
    Personally I want to hear more of LTT's side of the story here before I draw any sort of conclusion for myself. It is only fair when hearing an accusation to allow the accused an opportunity to defend themselves, admit any wrongdoing, and provide additional context. And the real world is not cut-and-dry; I suspect there's a mix of both mistakes as well as misunderstandings involved here.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to jooroth18 in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    Luke is an introvert, first and forrmost. You have to understand that. Luke disagrees with linus, and is sometimes vocal about it, but sometimes fails to mention it, weather be because wan show is 3 hrs long and he forgets, or other reasons. Its hard to go through what goes on in peoples thought process, but part of it is definately to not argue too much.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to ayysub in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    so many bootlickers in this thread
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    cardsfanbj reacted to VisibleXela in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    Same here, and if anything being a longtime LTT fan makes me far more upset. I expect so much more than this from Linus & Co.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to Orthusaku in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    "We made the mistake of auctioning the block that we did not own. We are going to work to get the block back to the rightful owner, and return the money from the auction. We did not accurately review the prototype and will be deleting the video about it. We will be making a video going out the changes we will be making to ensure our data is both accurate, valid, and not used incorrectly."
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    cardsfanbj reacted to Distinctly Average in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    What a horrible thread. Full of bickering, negativity, anger and hatred.
     
    Steve made some very valid points and LTT admit they made mistakes. Surely this is where criticism should become constructive. We should be talking about how thing failed and whether it made us make false purchases. We should be offering advice on how we think it is better to do things, and to how we would like to see any future errors addressed. All people and companies make mistakes, but the sign of a good company is how well they deal with the disasters that befall us all.
     
    Like almost everyone in this thread, I don’t know the inner workings and procedures LMG have in place. However it feels like a company that has grown too fast. It feels like it has all the tools and people to do an amazing job, but lacks the maturity a company like LMG needs. Many companies go through this, it is not unusual in the slightest. It can break the weaker companies as reputations crash, the stronger ones come through but it is often a bumpy road. There have certainly been some bug bumps in the last two years.
     
    I sincerely hope Steve & GN continue to do what they are doing so well. I also hope LMG can learn and grow from the mistakes they have made and it doesn’t dent from the enthusiasm the team obviously has. Maybe they need to slow down just a little so things can be more polished and more importantly, factually correct.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to Yames in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    Do you think LTT ignoring what the product was made for and then basing the review on that is a good idea, look, or way to give an honest review for the product?
    That's the criticism, nothing to do with the product from BL in this case.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to jitteryzeitgeist in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    "We fucked up, and it wasn't anyone elses fault.  We constantly rush videos and our data is inaccurate.  It is our fault we auctioned the Monoblock."
     
    Accountability, and future improvement.
     
    People make purchasing decisions based on LTT videos, and most of them don't have the money and position Linus does to make a neverending series of LOOK HOW RICH I AM HERES MY HOUSE videos so they fellate their own egos publicly.  Most of them can afford one big component a year, and if their favorite Youtuber is putting out bullshit numbers then they're the ones who will end up wasting their money on the word of some half-assed charlatan.
     
    Linus has and continues to ignore the problems with his channel and the merest notion that he handles shit badly.  Trust me bro.
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    cardsfanbj reacted to Thepyrodex in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    What do you want to hear then?
     
    I just want to know the truth, I don't care whos right because at the end of the day, they are talking heads on your screen and this thread is full of people angry over a parasocial relationship they have with a MEDIA COMPANY.  
     
    LMG has a lot to explain but come on, if you won't even listen then what's the point of caring as much as you do?
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    cardsfanbj got a reaction from FullStackEditor in Gamers Nexus alleges LMG has insufficient ethics and integrity   
    Honestly feel like this is the wrong move. This story is blowing up, and your response is buried in the forums or in other private communications? Honestly, how many eyes is a forum post going to be in front of versus a "mea culpa" segment on WAN show?
    Either make a dedicated video or put it up as a main topic on WAN show. Call up Steve and invite him on for a discussion. Or maybe even the Billet Labs guys to make this right.
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