AngryBeaver

For me it is all moot since I slap on a waterblock anyways. It just comes down to power limit and all of them are pretty limited atm.

I think you are mistaking it for the ventus. Though not sure it matters much when the maximum power limit on these cards range from 350w to like 380w on thr higher end cards. I mean truthfully all the 3080s are beast and perform within a few percent of each other when overclocked. For me the real difference comes down to support and EVGA wins that by miles. I dont think the 10gb of vram is going to hinder it at all. I mean maybe at 8k, but you would already have to reduce settings enough to make it playable that it should still be under 10gb. The area it would matter is productivity which is more the 3090 or Quadro range. People misunderstand a few things. Look at the coming 3060 with 12gb of vram. It might have vram, but when your bus doesn't have enough speed to actually use it effectively it is just a marketing ploy. The 3080 might only have 10gb, but it can access it much much faster which is what really matters.

I am a little paranoid. This is the first card I have purchased that wasn't EVGA in a very very long time (MSI 3080 X trio) So far I am not overly impressed. I have to wait my 30 days then I will probably start trying to snipe an 3080FTW (though I will have to get ANOTHER water block then).

I talked to someone at microcenter who was returning a card barely outside their window (and they let him) because MSI told him his RMA card wouldn't be shipped for approx 6 months!

Can you show us what the vcore is too. It could just be a bad mount or you forgetting to take the plastic strip off the cpu block

First off freezing isn't going to happen as long as your temps are above 0c - 32f. As for the temps a single 360rad should be ok for a gpu and cpu as long as you aren't pushing crazy voltage. Yes, more rad space would be desirable, but the biggest problem I see is that it is just blowing into a closed container. I do see those 2 fans which I am hoping are exhaust, but if so how are you getting fresh air into that box? Ideally you want to create a wind tunnel with your radiator as close to the fresh air source as possible. This would get you temps closer to ambient and make sure you aren't just recirculating the hot air you just dumped.

I am going to take another guess and say it might be voltages. I mean if the load temps are good which it looked like they were then there isn't really an issue with those temps other than maybe your ocd.

I mean there doesn't appear to be much you can do. Just let the system run it should eventually bleed all of that air out. I mean just because you think all of the air is out doesn't mean it is. I've had larger rads where the fittings had to be on top take several months to finally get out all of the bubbles despite tons of tilting.

Assuming this is a 5950x. Your temps are pretty darn good at all core, but the clocks are taking a massive hit. Looks like your voltage VID are much lower than mine... would be curious how much they are actually getting. Anyways I would be curious to see your cinebench scores. I expected to see the all core clocks on that chip to be in the 4.4-4.5 range on cinebench. I see mid 4.6's on mine for the stress test and 4.7-4.8 on cinebench. Either way the 5950x is a beast of a chip. but it those clocks are about the same across the board then it is losing a 1- core advantage over the 5900x just due to clock speeds. *update* whoops forgot that I keep my fans locked at 60% to keep them silent. I could probably ramp them up to 100% and shave off a few C, but I don't think it is worth it when they only hit mid 70's under a stress test. I tried to reproduce your test.

Just out of curiousity have you guys played with the curve optimizer at all? If you turn off PBO2 you can get some massive temp decreases and if you use PBO but disable it the voltage increase then you can undervolt, keep the same temps and get 100-200mhz of speed out of it on top. These things like being undervolted and actually perform much better when they are.

I disagree with this. My M.2 drives are much cooler using the heatsinks on the motherboard. I mean one of them didn't even have any when I got it, but the other one did and being a pci-gen 4 it would probably melt without it lol. Either way the motherboard ones have more surface area and offer slightly better temps even if we are only talking a few C. They also look much better.

This is pretty normal Ryzen behavior. You have to remember you have 16 cores concentraded into a small area. You are also using a 240mm rad which while adequate is very similar to a big air cooler in terms of performance. If you were to check something like Ryzen master you would also see that most of those cores are sleeping. Something you should do though is similar to this video. This will help lower your temps and also increase the performance of your chip. Ryzen 5000 Undervolting with PBO2 – Absolutely Worth Doing - YouTube

I tend to run highend parts and I like to overclock so for me it just made sense. Now that I have a very good loop my upgrades only add the cost of blocks. So for example I just picked up a 5900x and a 3080 at microcenter. The 5900x block set me back about 90 bucks and the 3080 block (when it gets here) set me back about another 180. So still more than a single AIO, but less than two which makes it cheaper now on that side of things, but still much more expensive than sticking with AIR. I love the fact it is pretty much quiet, looks better, and offers much more thermal headroom. That is me though and most people would never need or want one.

Here is one I shared earlier after doing some cinebench fun. It low - mid 70s is about the highest I have seen... Normally in the 50-60 range in other tasks.

Do you live close to a microcenter? If so ping me on the side and I can show you how to get one pretty easily.

It sounds like you are having mount issues. Did you take the plastic off the block for the cooler? Either way you can also take these steps to help with everything. Ryzen 5000 Undervolting with PBO2 – Absolutely Worth Doing - YouTube I have been playing around with it, but here are some of the early screenshots I took. I have got the clocks to break 5100 single core now and hold around 4.7-4.8 all core. I just need to get a few screenshots of that next. I have seen similar results pretty much across the 5000 series stack just from undervolting alone. The more thermal and power headroom you create the more PBO can really push these chips without sacrificing performance of ST or MT.

Yes and no. It is still true, but it does have to do with the SR vs DR side of things. I for some reason didn't full read your post mentioning you were going for DR memory... That was my bad.

From my understanding this is some korean based ram modules and they aren't very high quality. Again, there is very little information on this company so the total information is limited, which is why going from things I have seen and heard were mentioned.

I would steer clear of this ram unless you just need to stay on a very small budget. I have seen posts about people not being able to run them at their advertised speeds to just seeing loads of them returned to MC because of speed or compatibility issues.

It has been found that Ryzen 5000 is about 3-5% faster if you use 4 sticks so in your case 4x8gb. As for speed the sweet spot is 3600mhz with the best timings you can afford.

So I have seen some responses in here that misunderstand why undervolting on 50xx is so good. The quick run down is it creates thermal and voltage headroom which then allows PBO2 to push higher clocks. So you end up with higher clocks and slightly better temps compared to stock. Anyways each chip is different. I am able to do 30 on my 5900x, but my friends 5800x can only do 10. I found this quick video that does a good job explaining and walking you through the setup. Give it a try. I can see cores barely breaking 5.1k time to time and my full load clocks bounce in thec 4.6 - 4.75 range. I did tweak a few things like max pbo boost limits, but that all comes after you get the undervolts dialed in.

I still have a 2600k machine that is used by nephews/kids that has been overclocked to 4.6-4.8ghz pretty much since it came out (about 9 years ago). Heck I think it was a 3.8ghz chip so that is a pretty huge overclock. It is still as stable as the day I got it.

Normally a 3 sec black screen is a sign of a driver crash. If it only happens in that game though then it could be corrupt game files. Is your card an OC edition? If so maybe try reducing the clock speed a tad and see if that helps.. I have also seen OC cards who were unstable at their increased speeds.

Sounds like a driver issue to me.

This is a hard one to answer. It depends on what level you want to operate. Are you wanting to just run a few programs to scan and look for vulnerabilities or are you wanting to craft your own so you can operate at a higher level. Then it comes down of your understanding of the entire process. You will need to know how to code/script, how multiple OSs operate and their inherent weaknesses, you need to understand networking in great detail, then understand how a pc/server works and the function of all the components. When you go into the infosec space you pretty much need to understand the entire IT umbrella. I mean sure you can get away with little knowledge and just run pre-built vuln scanning software, but you won't move much farther than entry level. As for resources... they are everywhere many or them free. The problem is unless you can understand everything they are covering you won't get much... so it is best to start with your basic Comptia areas like A+, Network+, and Security+.. from there I would dive into understanding how programming works (writing basic programs, scripting, how to harden code, etc) Now for the final and most important peice. When testing do it in a secure way and make sure none of your traffic is escaping your local network. Then if you do find someone to pentest make are you have your documentation in order... there needs to be clear and concise ROE(Rules of Engagement) with a defined scope. This is the most important peice, because without it you are literally a criminal.