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1 hour ago, Levent said:

I have been doing these by hand... I am getting one as well.

Yeah I tried that but I cut my self on them so many times it's worth it buying the tool. 

6 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Does anyone have any tools for Cage Nut Insertion/Removal that they specifically recommend?

 

(shopping in the UK)

I don't know where you can buy it in the Uk but we use this one and it works well. 

https://www.racksolutions.com/cage-nut-tool.html

7 hours ago, johnt said:

This upsets me greatly lol I feel like there is a niche market here that I could capitalize on

The problem is it is a niche of a niche market. If they make a case that small your cooling options are extremely limited for the cpu as well and thus limiting the hardware you can put in it. 

25 minutes ago, Indian pc builder said:

I’m building my own nas, I’m not going to pay for a prebuilt one

Like I mentioned, of you wanted something as compact as the synology, that is your only option. 

If you are willing to go a bit larger those other cases are the next best bet. No DIY case will match the size of the synology. 

3 hours ago, Armymen said:

I have a chance to get one of those 3 CPU :

   i5-12400 6-Core (6P) for 198$ CAD   

   i5-12600K 10-Core (6P+4E) for 244$ CAD

   i5-14500 14-Core (6P+8E) for 339$ CAD

     

 

NAS will run UNRAID, Windows VM, Plex Transcoding 4k (travel a lots).

Current setup :

    Asus Pro WS w680-ace

    64 GB DDR5 ECC

 

My questions are :

What CPU to get ? I'm thinking longevity and long term for my NAS. Will I go longer using a 14 gen (14 Core) CPU instead of a 12 gen (6-10 Core) CPU?

14 Gen more core don't mean would be better ? 

How is UNRAID deal with P and E core ?

the K is not overkill for a NAS ? lol

 

Unraid doesn't fully utilize the e cores from what I remember and they will just be additional ones without hyper threading to it. 

Depending on what the windows vm is going to be expected to do and if you want to isolate those cores or not. 

If it isn't much the 12400 would be fine. 

If it is going to be high work load or you are isolating, go faster. 

Downloading torrents would be sketchy yes. 

Just with any system, it is a secure as you make it. 

I like the snapshot automation that truenas offers. That way if I do get hit with ransomware, shutdown everything and clear out the source of the attack and then in truenas revert the snapshot before it happened and my data is back. 

29 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Jonsbo N3 and N4 come to mind. 

https://www.jonsbo.com/en/products/N3.html

https://www.jonsbo.com/en/products/N4Black.html

 

Flip down the door and all the drives are there on sleds. These seem to be quite popular at the moment with small NAS builders. 

These are probably the closest options you will find. With DIY, the hardware won't fit in the tiny space that synology and the like they use. 

If you op is looking for more powerful hardware than what synology offers maybe look at the one from ugreen.

Their 6 bay offers a core i5 cpu and support for 64gb ram. As well as 2 nvme as well. 

Their software is still a work in progress but you can install your own os in it as well. 

I pre-ordered one myself and plan to try ugreens os and if it doesn't work how I would like, I will put truenas on it and check the state of ugos after a year. 

21 hours ago, Idkanythingaboutpcs said:

I recently went on a site called launchingdeals.com. They had a deal of windows 11 for only $40 that was perfect for my budget of $1000 and I cant lose a penny. Now that I have bought it they gave me a voucher code and id have to go to a sketchy website called https://windows11.offerredemption.com/?code=LD9DU4QR2UXKC2XK6.

If anyone knows if I got scammed or if its legit please help me I litterally cannot lose $40 or even $5 dollars. God bless!

Sounds like a scam to me. 

Try contacting their support if you can. 

If not I hope the purchase was on a credit card and you can try contacting your card issuer for a charge back. 

1 hour ago, LIGISTX said:

Even more important is, as far as I know, the Shield TV Pro has the best support for codex. It will play more codex than anything else... at least as of ~2022 when I got mine. I am not aware of anythign that has beaten it since.

 

Cant wait for another version to come out.

It's been since 2019 when it was released. I wouldn't hold your breath with nvidia creating another one soon sadly. 

9 hours ago, LIGISTX said:

The best device to use as a Plex playback client, unless things have changed, is the nvidia shield tv pro. You will want to instal Plex on a laptop or your gaming pc, use that as the server, and nvidia shield tv plugged into your receiver as the client. 

I second that. I have a fair amount of content that is 1080p and the upscale on the shield is pretty good. Looks almost as good as true 4k content and can really only tell the difference in high movement. 

14 hours ago, OddOod said:

The only other option would be hosting a different cloud storage solution like own/nextcloud. 

I forgot about this. 

This could be a good option and setting up next cloud aio is pretty easy if you have a domain you can use it with. 

6 hours ago, Aleph256 said:

Like this ?

 

Changed and applied.
Still doesn't seem to work

 

Might it have to do with my local net being on the "default" 192.168.x.x range instead of 10.10.x.x? I'm a nocive when it comes to network stuff.

Tried changing the dynamic range to that in NAS app but no results.

I would try using this site to scan those ports to make sure they are actually open. 

It is possible that they are blocked by something else or your isp.

https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

4 hours ago, Mr.Swiss0364 said:

Ill do that then, thanks

 

Just as an fyi, for parsec to work well, you will need to pass through a GPU to your vm.

Other than that I haven't found anything better that provides low latency connection to remote machines. 

1 minute ago, PSP. said:

lol no ,. I'm trying to know how to let user change password manually 
I feel like so rude to ask what username and password you want . 
I tried to uncheck disallow user to change password 
created user and went to synology photo tried to change password but there no option  . 
trying to know how let users use own password not by me
 

Based on your testing then, it sounds like that isn't an option either. 

Just generate a secure password to provide them. 

They would also need to trust you since you are housing their data anyway. So trust would be implied by them accepting your offer to host the storage. 

18 minutes ago, manikyath said:

1: questionable. there's xpenology, but it's very much not supported by synology.

2: afaik hardware support is fairly limited on synology, because they only need to support what hardware they elect to use.

3: i dont think so, but there's no guarantees in unchanted terretory.

4: that's where #1's questionability comes in. you cant buy a license for the software, but there is no official way to install it on anything else than synology hardware. the question here is if the company has the recovery files to reinstall available for free, does this mean that the software itself is also free?

5: yes, but again.. uncharted terretory, no guarantees here.

 

i've dabbled with xpenology, and from experience i can tell you to use something else instead. it's a fun 'project' but long term there is zero guarantee that your NAS will keep running as expected.

Yeah I tried it as well. It is very picky about what you run it on and how you run it. I would recommend against it as well. 

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

Yep, so many little details just don't matter to most people and you often end up wondering why they go through all that effort until you come across the reason for why. I used to use 10k RPM 3.5" SAS disks at home in my desktop that was water cooled and didn't really have any case airflow, the HDDs would get so hot you couldn't touch them without immediate heat pain, hotter than hot water out of a tap but less than boiling water. I dropped one because of that. TL;DR don't be dumb, give HDDs some fans, even just a tiny bit 

Oh yeah. I remember running wd raptor drives in raid 0 before ssds were a thing and you could cook an egg on those things without airflow. 

13 minutes ago, leadeater said:

It's not, it has nothing to do with capability of the gas/element to conduct heat and everything to do with turbulence inside the HDD. The manufacturers aren't going to go through all that effort to get Helium inside the HDD if it does nothing and you can still use air even in the most dense platter configurations but they do get too hot.

 

When you have a lot of HDDs in a high density dish shelf and run a high ambient with a datacenter (our set point is 27C) for a better PUE then HDDs get very hot and a couple of degrees less on the upper end of the operating range has a much greater effect on failure rates.

 

Helium in a small NAS or in a desktop means almost nothing which is why I said wouldn't really notice unless you have a lot of them.

I agree. It wouldn't even be noticeable in the 15 bay storinator hl-15 maybe in the massive one though but most home labs aren't going to be using that. 

2 hours ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

No i want to use hardware raid, im trying to flash the new firmware on it which may fix the problem but the problem i am running into now is that I need firmware version A03 as an intermediary before A17 but I cannot find A03 anywhere. THis is driving me fucking crazy 

Ah gotcha. Yeah finding older firmware for these things is like a needle in a hay stack. 

1 hour ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

Hello all, I am migrating from a poweredge R910 to an R920,

The R910 uses a Perc H700 raid controller and I have sas hdd's and sata ssd's on em and they work fine

The R920 uses a Perc H730P raid controller and that will detect the sas hdd's but NOT the sata SSD's
it detects sata hdd's just fine tho. 
crucial ssd's will say they all failed even though they work fine and their smart data is fine
samsung ssd's will have a green led but are still never detected.

Any ideas?

It might be something with it's configuration. Have you tried resetting it's bios? Are you using it's raid or something like truenas? If you are using software raid, you probably need to flash it to IT mode. 

32 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

I"d guess for a given capacity the air versions are newer than the helium ones. It used to be the 8TB CMR drives were basically all helium, but now there all air drives. Seems to be happening to 10TB drives now.

With advancements I don't think it is needed as much as it was back in like 2017. It is more expensive to use helium so they have inventive to not use it when they can. 

They were able to get better density with using helium due to the lower turbulence vs the air usage. 

There was a blog article about it from western digital a while back. 

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

It looks like only the 10TB model is available in both options. Typically helium is used for large capacity drives, and air is used for smaller drives to save cost. It doesn't seem to matter much for most uses and I haven't seen anything that points to a major difference in failure rate.

 

I'd typically reccomend getting large drives for your nas like 16TB+, so helium is your only option.

I think the main reason they use helium is to increase density on the platter and less air resistance. 

The only difference better the two options when both are available is probably just a minor decrease in power consumption I think. 

1 hour ago, Blue4130 said:

Yes, snapraid. On my phone and fat fingered it.

 

The reason why I suggest snapraid is because it is closest to unraid in that it allows mismatched drives. People that choose unraid over TrueNAS usually list that as the reason.

Yup. That is one thing it allows and does well that truenas and others don't. Really just depends on your use case. 

1 hour ago, Blue4130 said:

You could just use Linux and snaoraid, then you don't need to worry about changing license fees.

You mean snapraid right? I think that treats disk management similar to unraid. I haven't used it so not sure how ui and ease of setup is. 

I personally haven't preferred that style of raid as you only get single disk speed. But if it is mainly just file storage for media, it will be fine. 

I have been happy with truenas. But that software is supported but it's enterprise customers. 

I don't think the price for unraid is unreasonable given the advancements they made in the product and they don't have businesses to support a free version. 

Software development and upkeep tasks a not insignificant amount of money. 

36 minutes ago, PSP. said:

Seagate ironwolf dead because NAS powered off accidently ,
I will buy again and upgrading storage same time
but asking good deal or not , 
8tb 180$
12tb 200$
worth ?

Yes that's a good price. I haven't seen those less than 230.

1 hour ago, PSP. said:

my plan 8 or 10 tb . close to 190& 
i found discount Seagate IronWolf 12TB  for 199$ 
worth ?

 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084ZTSMWF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Those drives would be solid. Currently I am using the 8tb versions of those in mine for about a year now.