jacoporicci

In the quest to tame the 13900K should i look into installing a contact frame? I've been looking at various videos including GamerNexus' and it looks a pretty solid solution. Any experience?

Okay, I should be there. Dropped the high power connector on the psu because I thought I could just replace it with a cablemod 12VHPWR to PCI-e cables (how many for a 4090? 3? 4?) for THIS Be Quiet PSU which seems like a good deal at 240 euros on Amazon for a Platinum psu, couldn't find anything better myself on pcpartpicker. I would also pair it with a 180 degree adaptor from cablemod for a cleaner install. Any opinions on the PSU? Couldn't find much infos online about it and Corsair and Seasonic seem a little too expensive. Also, @brob RAMs listed on the mobo QVL are not so available here in Italy. Is the QVL really important or can I just follow the supported speeds on the specs? Thanks!

Can I consider it at the same level of the G Skill? The price is lower

Thanks, and I just googled what QVL is. So the Trident Z looks good but not very available here, I'll have a more in depth look to other options. As for the PSU, pcpartpicker calculated 938W and I thought to allow for a little headroom just in case but now I'm just wondering if I really need to narrow my options because of this high power connector. I would still buy a cablemods adapter i think though. EDIT: @brob just did a second quick search, what about this? https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/Vh2bt6/corsair-vengeance-lpx-128-gb-4-x-32-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk128gx4m4d3600c18 Copy for the two fans! And thanks!

Copy that and thanks for the clarification. Should I look into the 7950X or 7950X3D suggested by @cmndr now that sourcing RAM shouldn't be an issue if I go high capacity DDR4? That would help shrinking down case size since a 360 radiator won't be mandatory leaving me with only the AP201 Prime case for the build. As of now, this is what I've pieced together: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz 24-Core Processor (€610.88 @ Amazon Italia) CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€152.22 @ Amazon Italia) Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B760-G GAMING WIFI D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€215.00) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory (€427.37 @ Amazon Italia) Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€199.99 @ Amazon Italia) Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€199.99 @ Amazon Italia) Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (Purchased For €0.00) Case: Asus Prime AP201 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€100.00) Total: €1905.45 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-09 14:14 CEST+0200 I'm missing the PSU, and I filtered for the ones that have the high power connector for the 4090 natively on board, not a lot of choice and this Silverstone HELA 1200R Platinum which is from a brand I trust and it's not the most expensive on the list. The reason for the on board high power connector is just cable management but if it's not a big deal i'll just broaden the filters a bit. Thanks!

So can I just find an mAtx board that supports both ddr5 and 4 and upgrade down the line?

Thanks for the suggestion, definitely a life saver. So in terms of my application (CAD, 3D renders and previsualization suite) would I benefit from a DDR5 ram or can I not overthink RAM and just go with a good DDR4 kit? opinions? As for the CPU, that was the only thing that I wasn't gonna question but the idea of not having a lot of heat to dissipate kinda intrigues me more for the fact that can help me scale down the whole build and fit everything in a ITX case like the Dan C4 which can then fit into a smaller foam case for transportation. If I go ITX i just need to rethink RAM and try to get to 128gb with just two sticks

Hello, it's me. again! Sorry for the very late reply but got caught in a mad work week. Thank you everyone for the great suggestions, lots of great hints over here and I've slightly rethought the system as follows: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz 24-Core Processor (€654.04 @ Amazon Italia) CPU Cooler: EK Nucleus AIO CR360 Dark 72 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€170.00) Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z690-G GAMING WIFI Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€362.39 @ Amazon Italia) Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€267.16 @ Amazon Italia) Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€267.16 @ Amazon Italia) Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€192.88 @ Amazon Italia) Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€192.88 @ Amazon Italia) Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (Purchased For €0.00) Case: Asus Prime AP201 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€100.00) Total: €2206.51 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-01 22:10 CEST+0200 Still unable to find 128gb kits of RAM but I'll follow some of your suggestions above and eventually go with 2x64gb kits, hence the 4 ram slots matx motherboard. Ripjaws vs Z5? I just filtered DDR5 6000Mhz CL30. Just out of curiosity, is there a reason why is so difficult to find fast DDR5 kits of that size? Regarding mobo, I went TUF just because it looks rugged, but I've also seen the Asus ROG STRIX Z690-G GAMING WIFI, which is more expensive. I'm still confused on what chipset I should go with but this board looks like it has the same features as the strix while costing less. EDIT: Also just realized that the mobo I choose wouldn't need a K processor because of its chipset and only has one USB 3.2 Gen 1 header whilst the case has two USB 3s in the front. Also, doesn't seem it has enough PCI-E lanes for everything considering a 10gb ethernet upgrade down the line. Replaced it with the Strix, but also looking into MSI MAG Z690M MORTAR WIFI Micro ATX. Am I wrong? In the end, I'm more oriented towards a mATX case with a Pelican case + custom foam. The reason why I went for this particular one is that is one of the few mATX cases that I could find that supports a 4090 + a 360 AIO for the 13900k and couldn't find anything better on CaseEnd.com . I didn't wanna go ITX and sacrifice temps, I still want a powerful yet reliable system. Plus, not a lot of ITX boards seem to support 4 sticks of RAM. As for the GPU anti sag bracket, I'll have a company custom CNC one for me that can go from the top to the bottom of the case (like a rack retainer, pic attached) and clamp the 4090. AIO: They all look too "gaming" for a workstation so I went with that EK. Looks expensive and I wanted to swap all fans for Noctuas, still a good idea even if that comes with (what I only suppose are) good fans? CPU wise, can I save a few €€ and go 13900KF or better have also integrated graphics? PSU: If I filter for Platinum/Titanium of at least 1300W (pcpartpicker says that I'm at 950W, excluding other SSDs and/or fans) with a high power 12v connector on board I'm left with very few options on pcpartpicker. Any directions here? Almost ready to start buying components and start this journey, thanks everyone!

Hey jaslion! Thanks for replying so fast, very precious advices here. So, from my understanding it's either a very compact ITX case that keeps it firm or a rack case with a very well engineered GPU bracket/holder/cage, correct? No removing the gpu every time is not option also because I'd want it to be very fast to setup and be ready to go. Ideally the shock mount flight case it will travel into will be bigger and already equipped with a patchbay/networking/ups, so I can just slide the system in and make it travel ready. Might be relevant or not but I forgot to mention that said "travel" will only be made by me or on a truck provided by the tour production, never by a shipping company or by air/sea so it's somewhat "controlled". Attached is a tentative part list I just put together, overall it's overbudget considering it's still missing the case. Where can I optimize? My "sort by descending price" attitude to determine performance has hit again and I'm stuck. MOBO: The ProArt board seems like it has everything I need, I don't know if there's something better (even if it's more expensive) or something with the same level of performance for a better price. Also, I know that Z790 chipset are better than Z690 but I noticed that the ProArt Z790 is cheaper than its Z690 version, why is so? What about TUF boards? They looked rugged but was wondering if it's just marketing. CPU: is there a better option than the 13900 for this specific application? Is the pain cooling it worth the performance or better look into other options, if any? RAM: I just went for the fastest DDR5 speed I could find on pcpartpicker, but I don't know if that has to be my only source for parts. I'm really having a hard time gauging RAM, any advice? Also, in the filters it also gives bundles, is there a meaning to it? Do I have to buy in bundle because they're matched? Can't I just do 2 x 64gb sticks to reach 128gb of RAM? If I filter for 64gb DDR5 sticks I only end up with one result. SSD: I thought it might be a good idea to have them in RAID1 for redundancy, am I correct? PSU: might be another area where I can cut some more budget, might not need titanium and at this point I'd prefer something reliable and rugged. CASE: I like your suggestion but I'm looking for something with at least one usb-c front connector if it exists. OR I just thought I can have a front patch panel with some more IO routed from the back of the case to the front, but I'd need to slim down the system to 3U, which i don't think it's feasible considering the 4090. Noob question: can I swap the AIO fans with Noctua or better performing ones to help reducing noise? Again, thanks for replying and sorry for the million questions, definitely not an easy build to do by myself! J

Budget (including currency): 2000+ Euros (can go higher if needed, excluding 4090FE that I already own) Country: Italy Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Heavy 3D previsualization of concerts, events and live shows with Syncronorm Depence 3, designing in CAD (Vectorworks), 3D modeling on Blender, occasional gaming and video editing with Premiere/Da Vinci Hello everyone, long time LTT fan and viewer. I'm a creative director and show designer from Rome, Italy working for worldwide A-class artists and tours. I'm planning on building a portable previsualization rig that I can transport on-site when there's the need to keep working on the programming and previz of such shows on location but that can also be used in an office space. I already own a RTX 4090 FE that's still in the box and wanted to include that in the system obviously. CASE / MAKING IT PORTABLE The main concern is the transportability and safety in doing so and from here the first question: would you rather have a small form factor case that can fit in a Pelican case with custom foam or like a 3/4U ATX rack case that can fit everything and would be transported in a shock mounted flight case like THIS? What are the best practices in making a system portable? I'm concerned about a GPU that big moving around and how to prevent it from doing that. I don't know many rack mountable ATX cases and the best I found is THIS from Density. Seems expensive and maybe not very good front IO but it's the only one that can carry a large GPU like the 4090 and allow for ample colling and an AIO that I suppose would be necessary for such a high end system. Also, adding onto this, I would like this to be as silent as possible when not used on the road in the previsualization suite we have at the studio, hence the requirement for AIO support. I'm obviously open for more suggestions regarding cases since I've already looked into all the main brands and didn't find a good alternative at the Density. CPU / RAM I've been watching LTT for over 9 years now but choosing components such as CPU and RAM without going "sort from price (descending)" has never been my thing. I was oriented towards a i9-13900K just because from a quick search it looks like it's the most powerful nowadays even though I've seen from multiple sources (LTT included) that it's impossible to cool. I wonder if a 360 AIO would do the trick tho. Same goes for RAM, I know I want DDR5 but what parameters should I take into consideration when choosing RAM for my application? MOBO There's way too many of them and watching LTT's ultimate guide on building a pc twice didn't prevent an eternal indecisive person like me from freezing in front of the million options presented. I've been recommended the ProArt series from Asus but don't know if it's too overkill or if there's anything better. PSU / SSD / AIO As for all the other components, like PSU, SSD and AIO I'm even more in the dark so feel free to suggest the best options for a high end system. It doesn't need to be fancy, it just needs to be powerful so the balance is more towards power, aesthetic is just an added bonus if possible. After all, this thing probably won't have a windows but we're still a creative company ahah MONITOR I was looking at the Dell U4919DW (not included in the aforementioned budget). What's your opinion on it? I like that I can have multiple sources and be able to use it for displaying the screen(s) out of this pc and maybe an additional laptop if needed. Any other suggestions? I'm not married to the one monitor thing, I've actually spent most of time using a laptop with a secondary monitor so pretty used to have two instead of a big one. Thanks in advance for taking the time to read through this and sorry for any eventual misspelling and the lenghty post. Cheers from Italy!

I did an NVRAM e PRAM reset but that didn't solve the issue. Any other option anyone? Thanks

Hey thanks for replying. How do you reset the adapter?

Hey everyone, here's a (at least to me) pretty odd one. Recently I've changed the SSID on my Asus RT-AC86U router on both the 2.4 and 5GHz bandwidths. From that point it looks like that only my Macbook Pro (connected to the 5GHz) randomly disconnects. No other device in the house drops the connection and my Macbook does fine on every other network that is not that one. I did restart the router and the laptop and made it forget the wifi network but that didn't do the trick. I still have to test if it does the same thing on the 2.4. Does any of you have a clue about what's going on? Thanks!

UPDATE: So I bought a super cheap DLink Wifi Extender on Amazon just to give it a try and return it. Of course it didn't work so I suppose I either have to find a better quality product or change approach and have a point to point antenna and then connect the receiving antenna to an access point in the AirBnb. Has any of you guys had any experience with something similar? Edit: I've found THIS on Amazon (I'll remove the link and put the name of the item if links are not allowed) but looks very chinese. Thanks!

Thanks everyone who contributed to the post. Looks like I have a fair bit to study. Will come back to annoy y'all if I need more help!